Game The Most Disliked "I'm Aging Wrong!" Episode

[Sakonna]

And I guess I'll take the last elimination because I do have a strong preference between these two... saving "And The Children Shall Lead", because I think parts of it are appealingly crazy. Storm Front wins! I think again? Must check list...

ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"

Edit: Oh, it's that "Storm Front, Part II" won twice, and Part I has one prior win, so we have another double-winner! God, "Storm Front." It has no fans! It is definitely my most hated of all the times Trek has done Nazi's.

Hmm, should we quickly tack on "The Most Disliked 'Trek Vs. Nazi's' Episode" at the end of this thread?

 

[Orphalesion]

When Daniels shows up, he is deformed by different parts of his body aging at extremely different rates.

Oh so is that what the guy in "Much Ado About Boimler" who's half a kid and half an old man is a reference to?
I blocked out all of Stormfront because of the literal Nazi aliens in literal Nazi uniforms. Stuff like that is where my brain draws the line and shuts down to protect itself.

 

[Oddish]

And over and done in less than 12 hours. Grrrrr.

 

[Farscape One]

Regardless... Everybody was suddenly older. It was that aspect which was the driving plot point
Point being, Picard was living as both his younger & older selves. He was wrongly put into different ages, if you want to look at it that way lol

Also, Timescape doesn't have any real aging at all. It's just time anomaly stuff
But to them (& us) they were aging in these situations

In "Future Imperfect", before it's revealed to be a simulation, 16 years went by. A little gray, like Riker showed, would happen naturally, so it's not 'aging wrong', since that's the title of the game.

Same with "The Inner Light" and "HARD TIME"... years happened in their minds, so they aged according to the amount of years they experienced there. Again, not aging wrongly.

And the Q ones, particularly the finale, their bodies were not aging wrong. They were simply aged according to how many years passed.

"BEFORE AND AFTER" is the exception because Kes has her brain sort of swiss cheesed, like Sam Beckett in QUANTUM LEAP, and there is no clear cut way of knowing if the Kes at the end is the one we knew from the start of the show or the near death one, memory-wise.

 

[Farscape One]

That one would have been a worthy winner, especially if one tries to figure out how they give birth.
Plus the... elderly gentleman and ladies, I guess that Tuvok encounters don't just look like kids, they behave like kids too...until the last szene after the reveal when the last surviving one suddenly starts talking about her grandson and how she knows its her time to go.
The.. I guess little girl? Teenager? who explains the whole thing to Tuvok even says that they literally age in reverse, calls her elders "children" and says that shortly before death her species reaches a state of "innocence"
So are they literally born as wise and/or cantkerous old folks, then become adults, then hormonal teenagers and finally children?
Even aside from the questions on how their society is supposed to work like that...how does that work biologically? How do they gastate and give birth to a full grown senior citizen?

Actually, it's not Tuvok who says they age in reverse, it's the Prelate who tells the girl, "They can't understand because their aging process is reversed."

From the Drayans' perspective, WE are aging the wrong way.

 

[Orphalesion]

Actually, it's not Tuvok who says they age in reverse, it's the Prelate who tells the girl, "They can't understand because their aging process is reversed."

From the Drayans' perspective, WE are aging the wrong way.

Yeah that's what I said the Prelate tells him that, which makes me wonder about the details.

 

[Farscape One]

Only the Prelate mentions humans and all others as aging in reverse, which given how isolationist the Drayans are, it's not surprising they see us all as aging the wrong way.

I actually really like "INNOCENCE" not only because of that reveal in the end, but showing us a side of Tuvok we rarely saw. It might be the only time he sang.

 

[Orphalesion]

I actually really like "INNOCENCE" not only because of that reveal in the end, but showing us a side of Tuvok we rarely saw. It might be the only time he sang.

Yeah that was nice, he did a good job with the kids, he is a father after all.

 

[Qonundrum]

And I guess I'll take the last elimination because I do have a strong preference between these two... saving "And The Children Shall Lead", because I think parts of it are appealingly crazy. Storm Front wins! I think again? Must check list...

ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"

Edit: Oh, it's that "Storm Front, Part II" won twice, and Part I has one prior win, so we have another double-winner! God, "Storm Front." It has no fans! It is definitely my most hated of all the times Trek has done Nazi's.

Hmm, should we quickly tack on "The Most Disliked 'Trek Vs. Nazi's' Episode" at the end of this thread?

That'd be a quickie!

I recall VOY "The Killing Game", TOS "City at the Edge of Forever", and TOS "Patterns of Force" having the Nazis in some fashion... I have a feeling there were a few others... which I wouldn't have seen...

 

[Mojochi]

In "Future Imperfect", before it's revealed to be a simulation, 16 years went by. A little gray, like Riker showed, would happen naturally, so it's not 'aging wrong', since that's the title of the game.

Same with "The Inner Light" and "HARD TIME"... years happened in their minds, so they aged according to the amount of years they experienced there. Again, not aging wrongly.

And the Q ones, particularly the finale, their bodies were not aging wrong. They were simply aged according to how many years passed..

But from a narrative standpoint, their ages are wrong. Riker suddenly wakes up & he's old. Picard wakes up & he's young, or he's forced to grow old in a life not his etc... These are not natural ways to age. They've aged wrong lol

 

[Sakonna]

Oh wait, I was again confused upthread... "Storm Front, Part I" actually had two prior wins, so, with this thread, it now joins "Profit & Lace" as the only two episodes to be triple-winners. Harsh! But deserved.

No prior winner, since we didn't play this thread before.

Next one will go up on Wednesday. I'm not totally sure what it'll be yet. Maybe something huge ("The Most Disliked First Season Episode"). Or maybe this "The Most Disliked Episode From A One-Time Director" list I've been kicking around. We'll see! Thanks for playing all, hope to see you on the next one!

MOST DISLIKED WINNERS, 2022
WRITER GENE RODDENBERRY: TOS, Season 1: "Mudd's Women"
MAJEL BARRETT APPEARANCE: TOS, Season 3: "And The Children Shall Lead"
3RD SEASON: TOS, Season 3: "And The Children Shall Lead"
'HEY, THIS PLANET IS JUST LIKE EARTH!': TOS, Season 3: "Plato's Stepchildren"
ANIMATED: TAS, Season 1: "The Eye Of The Beholder"
ROMULAN: TAS, Season 2: "The Practical Joker"
WEDDING: TNG, Season 2: "The Outrageous Okona"
DIRECTOR WINRICH KOLBE: TNG, Season 5: "The Masterpiece Society"
5TH SEASON: TNG, Season 5: "The Perfect Mate"
ROMANCE-OF-THE-WEEK: TNG, Season 6: "Aquiel"
KLINGON: TNG, Season 6: "Birthright, Part II"
DIRECTOR CLIFF BOLE: TNG, Season 7: "Liaisons"
DIRECTOR LES LANDAU: TNG, Season 7: "Dark Page"
DIRECTOR ALEXANDER SINGER: TNG, Season 7: "Homeward"
WRITER RONALD D. MOORE: TNG, Season 7: "Journey's End"
7TH SEASON: TNG, Season 7: "Firstborn"
HOLIDAY: DS9, Season 3: "Meridian"
CARDASSIAN: DS9, Season 6: "Sons & Daughters"
MIRROR UNIVERSE: DS9, Season 6: "Resurrection"
BAJORAN: DS9, Season 6: "The Reckoning"
FERENGI: DS9, Season 6: "Profit And Lace"
COMEDIC/LIGHT-HEARTED: DS9, Season 6: "Profit And Lace"
6TH SEASON: DS9, Season 6: "Profit And Lace"
JEFFREY COMBS APPEARANCE: DS9, Season 7: "The Emperor's New Cloak"
WRITER JOE MENOSKY: VOY, Season 5: "The Fight"
HOLODECK: VOY, Season 6: "Spirit Folk"
MAQUIS: VOY, Season 7: "Repression"
BARCLAY: VOY, Season 7: "Inside Man"
2-PART/DOUBLE EPISODE: VOY, Season 7: "Flesh And Blood"
RECYCLED TITLE: ENT, Season 1: "Terra Nova"
VAUGHN ARMSTRONG APPEARANCE: ENT, Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
2ND SEASON: ENT, Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
DIRECTOR LEVAR BURTON: ENT, Season 3: "Extinction"
DIRECTOR MIKE VEJAR: ENT, Season 3: "Rajiin"
NAMED FOR CHARACTER: ENT, Season 3: "Rajiin"
DIRECTOR DAVID LIVINGSTON: ENT, Season 3: "Harbinger"
SEASON PREMIERE: ENT, Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
EVERY 47TH RELEASE: ENT, Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
"I'M AGING WRONG!": ENT, Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
VISIT TO EARTH'S PAST: ENT, Season 4: "Storm Front, Part II"
HOLLYWOOD REPORTER'S 100 BEST EPS: ENT, Season 4: "Home"
DIRECTOR ALLAN KROEKER: ENT, Season 4: "These Are The Voyages..."
TIME TRAVEL/TRAVELER/LOOP/ANOMALY: DIS, Season 2: "Perpetual Infinity"
FEMALE DIRECTOR: DIS, Season 2: "Perpetual Infinity"
SEASON FINALE ANTAGONIST: DIS, Season 2: Control
DIRECTOR JONATHAN FRAKES: DIS, Season 3: "There Is A Tide..."
47TH EPISODES: DIS, Season 4: "The Examples"
4TH SEASON: DIS, Season 4: "The Galactic Barrier"
4TH & 7TH EPISODES: ST, Season 2: "Ask Not"
TREK NOIR: PIC, Season 1: "Broken Pieces"
CAST CROSSOVER: PIC, Season 1: "Et In Arcardia Ego, Part 1"
GUINAN: PIC, Season 2: "Monsters"
BORG/XB: PIC, Season 2: "Mercy"
Q: PIC, Season 2: "Mercy"
COUPLE: LD, Carol Freeman/Alonzo Freeman
REGULAR CHARACTER: PRO, Drednok

TRIPLE WINNERS
DS9, Season 6: "Profit And Lace"
ENT, Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"

DOUBLE WINNERS
TOS, Season 3: "And The Children Shall Lead"
ENT, Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
ENT, Season 3: "Rajiin"
DIS, Season 2: "Perpetual Infinity"
PIC, Season 2: "Mercy"

TOTAL SHOW WINS
SNW & Movies: 0 wins
ST, LD & PRO: 1 win each
TAS: 2 wins
TOS: 4 wins
VOY & PIC: 5 wins each
DIS: 6 wins
DS9: 8 wins
TNG: 10 wins
ENT: 13 wins

 

[JesterFace]

MOST DISLIKED WINNERS, 2022

Winning is usually a good thing but being a winner in a weak episode list, is that a win?

 

[Qonundrum]

Winning is usually a good thing but being a winner in a weak episode list, is that a win?

There was once an old saying, in old high Gallifreyan as I recall, that went along the lines of something like "To lose is to win, and the story that wins shall lose".

 

[JesterFace]

There was once an old saying, in old high Gallifreyan as I recall, that went along the lines of something like "To lose is to win, and the story that wins shall lose".

That does work in a competition where the winner is actually last.
Also, the story that won here, it lost.
Gallifreyans have been smart there....
....But they do have time machines so they could affect our messages somehow over and over again to get results that make them look good.