The MOST Disliked Episode of VOYAGER - Season Four...

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  1. Farscape One

    Farscape One Vice Admiral Admiral

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    This is a twist on a game that is played here, which I thoroughly enjoyed. I am very curious to see the results.

    Here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your most favorite or the one you deem the 'best.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, wait six hours and leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

    No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win. Pretty simple. Enjoy!

    Hall of Champions (or Failures?)
    2011 - "THE FIGHT"
    2018 - "FAVORITE SON"

    Season Four -

    SCORPION, PART II
    THE GIFT
    DAY OF HONOR
    NEMESIS
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    LIVING WITNESS
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  2. Farscape One

    Farscape One Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I will begin season 4 by saving "NEMESIS". This was a great Chakotay episode. I love the use of different words for common ones... it reminded me a bit of TNG's "Darmok".

    And the episode's message was summed up by Chakotay at the end... "I wish it were as easy to stop hating as it was to start." A great message, and one of the best Chakotay episodes of the series.


    SCORPION, PART II
    THE GIFT
    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    LIVING WITNESS
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
  3. Garth Rockett

    Garth Rockett Commodore Commodore

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    This is my favorite season of Voyager, so several good ones to pick from. I think I'll start with Living Witness, a great look at how history can get distorted, and a good Doctor episode.

    SCORPION, PART II
    THE GIFT
    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  4. cosmic mouse

    cosmic mouse Commodore Commodore

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    This is my favorite season too (very close with s5), so there are many to be saved, but I'll start with Scorpion II for concluding my 2nd fav episode of the entire series with a bang.

    THE GIFT
    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  5. Farscape One

    Farscape One Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I was torn between "NEMESIS" and "LIVING WITNESS" as my first save. I'm happy to see it was the first choice after mine.
     
  6. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I am torn between "The Gift", "Omega Directive", "One", and "Hope & Fear" for my first save. The addition of Seven really did unbalance the show (even moreso than it already was), but the Seven episodes themselves are almost always home runs.

    I think I'll go with "The Gift." To continue with my theme of always saving the Kes episodes, and in recognition of what a nice job Jennifer Lien does, under awful conditions! What a shitty situation, to have to go work and turn in a good performance still, after you've been so publicly and unceremoniously fired.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  7. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

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    HOPE AND FEAR: Janeway is faced with the consequences of something really bad and opposite to star fleet principles that she did and (almost) pays for it.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
     
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  8. Refuge

    Refuge Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Year of Hell, Part II - Times up!

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
     
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  9. Refuge

    Refuge Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I think it was cool seeing Kes develop such power. Such wasted potential.
     
  10. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The first really good season of Voyager - I'll save Year of Hell. Annorax is awesome.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
     
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  11. Orac

    Orac Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I deleted Message in a Bottle because it has Andy Dick in it.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
     
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  12. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

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    All the obvious ones were taken care of before I got here.

    Prey is most memorable and important episode out of those left. Though plenty of underrated ones for whatever's left in the morning.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
     
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  13. Brennyren

    Brennyren Commodore Commodore

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    Saving the life of "The Killing Game," because damn, that episode had style. Klingon Janeway alone is worth checking it out for, but then we also get Kathryn-Katrine, Seven the chanteuse, others of the core crew as classic WWII-movie-style Maquis, and Chakotay and Paris as earnest, clean-cut, WWII-movie-style American G.I.'s. (Chakotay the Maquis not being a Maquis made me snicker.)

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
     
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  14. Farscape One

    Farscape One Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I will use the "SCIENTIFIC METHOD" in saving it. Great idea, well executed. Seeing the coffee going through the body like that was really for its time, and still is.

    Great performances all around.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
     
  15. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I think "One" is fantastic. It's a great little episode, so tense and involving. Jeri Ryan does her usual fabulous work and it's perfectly positioned in Seven's arc.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
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  16. Horta

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    I will select "Demon." I love this episode. I like the idea of the "silver blood" (deuterium, hydrogen sulfate, dichromates, and proteins) "bioforming" duplicates that can survive on the planet. There are many details in this episode that are creative and thought provoking. I especially like the later episode that intersects with the demon planet story line. Great episode!


    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
     
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  17. BigDaveX

    BigDaveX Captain Captain

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    The Omega Directive. Nice, tense little piece, and it helped inspire the story for Star Trek: Armada.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
     
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  18. cosmic mouse

    cosmic mouse Commodore Commodore

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    The Raven. Because Seven is my favorite character... and this was a good ep for her, plus I always liked when Seven & Tuvok got to interact in any way. The scenes between Janeway and 7 were a good start to their bond as well.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
     
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  19. Farscape One

    Farscape One Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I will let "MORTAL COIL" live for another day. This was an excellent Neelix episode, and a showcase of how talented Ethan Phillips really is. He really was underutilized, and episodes like this proved it.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
     
  20. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I really enjoyed the guest star in REVULSION.

    DAY OF HONOR
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
     
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