The Most Disliked Episode of VOYAGER - Season 4...

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  1. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    This is a twist on a game that is played here, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

    Here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your most favorite or the one you deem the 'best.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

    No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win. Pretty simple. Enjoy!

    Hall of Champions (or Failures?)
    2011 - "THE FIGHT"
    2018 - "FAVORITE SON"
    2019 - "SPIRIT FOLK"

    Season Four -

    SCORPION, PART II
    THE GIFT
    DAY OF HONOR
    NEMESIS
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    LIVING WITNESS
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  2. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    I will start with the season premiere, "SCORPION, PART II". This was a good second part, and a great jumping off point for the season. And Chakotay got some good scenes with Janeway. I wish there were more like them.


    THE GIFT
    DAY OF HONOR
    NEMESIS
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    LIVING WITNESS
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
  3. Mirror Sakonna

    Mirror Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Writing Kes out was a bad decision, but "The Gift" was a great way to execute it. The paralleling of the incoming and outgoing regulars in this really works. And I can't resist a Seven episode.

    DAY OF HONOR
    NEMESIS
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    LIVING WITNESS
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  4. Boo-rennyren

    Boo-rennyren Commodore Commodore

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    "Living Witness" was a stunning piece of work, powerful and meaningful. One of Voyager's best.

    DAY OF HONOR
    NEMESIS
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  5. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    Season 4 had a lot of great episodes, so I'll have to go my usual way... production order.

    My next save is "NEMESIS". A good Chakotay episode, and his last line in the episode was the perfect end to it.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  6. The Illusive Man

    The Illusive Man Leader of Cerberus Premium Member

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    I save “Message in a bottle,” my reasons why really just boil down to one line: “ROMULANS!” :)


    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
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  7. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Scorpion has been saved, so I'll save Year of Hell. Part I. I know it has the obvious reset button in it's DNA, but I can't help but love seeing the downtrodden crew, and the state the ship gets in.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METTHOD
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    ONE
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
  8. Mirror Sakonna

    Mirror Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    "One" is a favorite a mine. Very tense episode, an excellent showcase for Seven.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    SCIENTIFIC METHOD
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
  9. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    Saving "SCIENTIFIC METHOD". Very well done concept, and watching the x-rays of drinking and kissing was inventive and fun. The Chakotay/Neelix banter in sickbay is always funny to watch.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    YEAR OF HELL, PART II
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
  10. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    May as well save Year of Hell, Part II. It's as epic as part one, ended by Janeway's "Time's up!" Yes again, reset button mentality hurts it on multiple viewings, but I never won't love the two-parter.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    CONCERNING FLIGHT
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
  11. Boo-rennyren

    Boo-rennyren Commodore Commodore

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    Saving "Concerning Flight" because hey, you give me an hour of John Rhys-Davies, I'm there. And "Katarina" works well with him.

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
    HOPE AND FEAR
     
  12. Mirror Sakonna

    Mirror Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    "Hope And Fear" is a very strong finale. Good follow-up on "Scorpion." The Janeway/Seven confrontations are electric -- except for that ridiculous line where Janeway yells "We've given you a lot, Seven, it's time you gave something in return!" Literally just last episode Seven was the only person running the ship and keeping the crew alive for a full month!

    DAY OF HONOR
    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
  13. The Illusive Man

    The Illusive Man Leader of Cerberus Premium Member

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    Saving “Day of Honor,” Tom & B’Elanna’s romantic turning point in space suits and after many times hearing “The ejection system is off line,” it finally works!


    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
  14. Boo-rennyren

    Boo-rennyren Commodore Commodore

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    I don't think "The Killing Game" made a ton of sense, but it gets style points out the wazoo.

    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    MORTAL COIL
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
  15. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    "MORTAL COIL" is next for me. A great Neelix episode.

    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
  16. Mirror Sakonna

    Mirror Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I guess I'll keep saving stand-out Seven episodes. "Omega Directive"! The Borg world building in this is excellent.

    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    PREY
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
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  17. Boo-rennyren

    Boo-rennyren Commodore Commodore

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    Seven, I will save "Prey" just for you. Because you stood up to the captain and you saved the ship. While one can certainly argue which was in the right and which in the wrong here (I'm with Seven on this one, obviously), I just found it so dramatically satisfying to see the powerful conflict between the two.

    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    WAKING MOMENTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
  18. JaffreyPanthosa

    JaffreyPanthosa Admiral Admiral

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    Saving Waking Moments. I always thought the lucid dreaming thing was cool. It led me to figure out how to increase the odds of figuring out I’m dreaming so I can try to control it.

    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    HUNTERS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
  19. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    Saving "HUNTERS" next. I love the Hirogen, and the letters for the crew was a good B story.


    REVULSION
    THE RAVEN
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON
     
  20. Mirror Sakonna

    Mirror Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I'll save "The Raven." Quite a bit of this strains credibility -- they take Seven on board, and just happen to run into the Hansen's crashed ship 6 episodes later? -- but it does a great job of depicting the trauma of assimilation.

    REVULSION
    RANDOM THOUGHTS
    RETROSPECT
    THE KILLING GAME, PART II
    VIS A VIS
    UNFORGETTABLE
    DEMON