The length of the JJprise... possible proof in the next movie?

[BlastHardcheese]

I was thinking the next Trek movie would nice if it took a TOS story and turned it into a feature film. "Where No Man Has Gone Before" would make an excellent film about Kirk watching an old academy friend turn into an insane demigod threatening the Enterprise and who knows what else...

But I digress. I'd also like to see "Errand of Mercy" adapted with the Klingons and Organians. If such a story involving Klingons were to be used, we would inevitably see the D7 battlecruiser which we caught a glimpse of in the Kobiyashi Maru scenario.

If these ships are visibly tiny compared to the new Enterprise then we know it will be intended to be 2000+ feet long. And Abrams wouldn't scale up the Klingon ships too, right?

...Right?

 

[number6]

I would like to see a new story involving the new crew, not a rehash of old ideas. That was the whole idea of reinventing the franchise, right??

 

[iguana_tonante]

I just want to see the James R. Kirk's tombstone.

 

[M'Sharak]

If these ships are visibly tiny compared to the new Enterprise then we know it will be intended to be 2000+ feet long. And Abrams wouldn't scale up the Klingon ships too, right?

Why wouldn't he? The altered timeline doesn't exist only for the Federation, does it?

Anyway, I'm not going to lose any sleep if the exact dimensions of the JJprise are never stated or shown on-screen, and put me also in the "please, no re-hash of Original Series episodes" column. Those stories have been done; let's go somewhere we haven't already gone before.

 

[CoveTom]

I can understand the desire to see what a modern film with a huge budget could do to a classic story we all know and love. But I am also quite fearful of what a modern film director with a modern Hollywood mentality could do to a classic story we all know and love.

In any event, regardless of whether you think Abrams & Company would do a good remake or a bad remake of an original series story, I agree with the basic idea that they shouldn't be rehashing old stories. At least not yet.

Sure, if this new incarnation of Trek were an ongoing TV series that was producing alot of different stories, I could seem them revisiting some of the things that we know, at least in the Prime Universe, are going to happen to Kirk and his crew. But as long as we're dealing with a few movies, and only one every couple of years, and we're just getting a foothold into this new, revitalized Trek universe, let's try to keep it completely new and fresh for now.

Or so it seems to me. For what that's worth.

 

[Talosian]

My impression is that trivia like ship sizes and engineering statistics are simply not relevant to the new Star Trek franchise. The new Enterprise wasn't even featured that prominently in the film. And the Narada remains a mystery, only potentially solved by a few comic books.

J.J. Abrams isn't a Trekkie, nor is he a George Lucas who gives a planet and history for every last CG creature or vehicle. He's much more concerned with being a storyteller, and with pressing the audience's buttons in the manner of a Rod Serling or Alfred Hitchcock (not to suggest he's at the same level).

 

[Mysterion]

Yes. I've seen an advanced copy of the script.

The opening scenes are a series of shots of the Enterprise from various angles next to a really big ruler.

Plus dialog from the characters, such as:

Kirk: Wow. Look at those nacelles.

Spock: Yup. They are 500 feet long. And hwo about that saucer section?

Kirk: Oh, yeah. It's 607 feet in diameter, isn't it?

Spock: You bet it is, Captain. And, hey, check out that overall height on the seconday hull...

 

[Tallis Rhul]

I agree, I don't think it's important what the dimensions are. And to be honest maybe I'm being dumb, but I don't remember seeing a scene where the Enterprise dwarfs the D-7s, or even that they were definitely D-7s (there are D-5s in existence, and maybe they were an unknown class we've not seen yet). Either way, I'm pretty sure we only saw them through the viewscreen?

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Sector 7]

I hope we "boldly go where no one has gone before" in the sequel. Or, as ShatKirk put it, "young minds, fresh ideas".
While I can buy into the larger Enterprise, I would be just as happy whether it is addressed or not.

 

[TenLubak]

I was thinking the next Trek movie would nice if it took a TOS story and turned it into a feature film. "Where No Man Has Gone Before" would make an excellent film about Kirk watching an old academy friend turn into an insane demigod threatening the Enterprise and who knows what else...

But I digress. I'd also like to see "Errand of Mercy" adapted with the Klingons and Organians. If such a story involving Klingons were to be used, we would inevitably see the D7 battlecruiser which we caught a glimpse of in the Kobiyashi Maru scenario.

If these ships are visibly tiny compared to the new Enterprise then we know it will be intended to be 2000+ feet long. And Abrams wouldn't scale up the Klingon ships too, right?

...Right?

No way give me something original. The first movie was enuff of a rehash of old ideas made to look all ipoddie! I am enjoying the novelization of Star Trek, when i thought the film was just ok when i saw it...
Yea new is always best!

 

[BenRoethig]

Yes. I've seen an advanced copy of the script.

The opening scenes are a series of shots of the Enterprise from various angles next to a really big ruler.

Plus dialog from the characters, such as:

Kirk: Wow. Look at those nacelles.

Spock: Yup. They are 500 feet long. And hwo about that saucer section?

Kirk: Oh, yeah. It's 607 feet in diameter, isn't it?

Spock: You bet it is, Captain. And, hey, check out that overall height on the seconday hull...

Or have a quip that everything didn't scale up so well from the original designs for the class.

 

[SalvorHardin]

After the last thread on the subject, if I never hear again a discussion about the length of the new Enterprise it will be too soon.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

What more proof could there be in the next movie? There was enough proof in this one; a single look at engineering, the shuttlebay and the bridge corridors support a ~700m length, while the smaller figure is not supported by any scenes. I honestly don't understand why there is still confusion about this.

 

[M'Sharak]

What more proof could there be in the next movie? There was enough proof in this one; a single look at engineering, the shuttlebay and the bridge corridors support a ~700m length, while the smaller figure is not supported by any scenes. I honestly don't understand why there is still confusion about this.

It's not confusion, I'm thinking, so much as it is stubbornness.

 

[DaveyNY]

It wouldst appear, that where the NuEnterprise is concerned, any confusion that may be present, is in the eye of the beholder and not in the mind of the dissenter...


(...or what the Sharak said...)





I've always wanted to type this... "...I've shot the Sharak..., but I did not shoot the T'Bones..."

 

[KingstonTrekker]

I was thinking the next Trek movie would nice if it took a TOS story and turned it into a feature film. "Where No Man Has Gone Before" would make an excellent film about Kirk watching an old academy friend turn into an insane demigod threatening the Enterprise and who knows what else...

But I digress. I'd also like to see "Errand of Mercy" adapted with the Klingons and Organians.

Let's not go where we have been before -- I really hope that we do not see rehashes of old episodes. No old episodes, no Khan, no Harry Mudd -- let's go boldly forward with NEW stories!

 

[CaptainPipcard]

imagine a D7 570 m long

 

[Sector 7]

After the last thread on the subject, if I never hear again a discussion about the length of the new Enterprise it will be too soon.

Amen to that!

 

[Crazy Eddie]

put me also in the "please, no re-hash of Original Series episodes" column. Those stories have been done; let's go somewhere we haven't already gone before.

I don't know, there have been some really crappy original series episodes that would probably benefit from a revision, or at least an update. Don't tell me I'm the only one who ever wondered just who or what created the duplicate Earth from "Miri," because the explanation that it evolved by itself is just plain idiotic. They mentioned something about the Preservers in "Paradise Syndrome," but never followed up on it.

So now I wonder: since the same intelligence that created a duplicate Earth could easily create a duplicate Vulcan, wouldn't the identification of and contact with that intelligence suddenly move a lot higher in Starfleet's priorities? It wouldn't just be a curiosity anymore, for thousands of homeless Vulcans--and especially for Spock--finding the Preservers would be a hope of survival or even resurrection on the chance that just maybe that same intelligence had the capacity to restore their destroyed home world or at least create another one for them to repopulate.