The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by BlueStuff, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Here we have the winners and runners up of each season:

    Season One: Emissary
    Wild Card: In the Hands of the Prophets
    Season Two: The Wire
    Wild Card: Necessary Evil
    Season Three: The Die is Cast
    Wild Card: Improbable Cause
    Season Four: The Visitor
    Wild Card: Return to Grace
    Season Five: In Purgatory's Shadow
    Wild Card: By Inferno's Light
    Season Six: In the Pale Moonlight
    Wild Card: Sacrifice of Angels
    Season Seven: What You Leave Behind
    Wild Card: Tacking into the Wind

    So now it is time for the final part.

    *RULES*

    Give what you consider to be the worst/your least favourite episode ONE point, and briefly explain WHY. Be sure to copy and paste the list with your point added. When an episode reaches 4 points, it is eliminated. Then a NEW round begins (in this thread) with the numbers restored to 0. Vote ONCE per round. And enjoy! :bolian:

    Emissary - 0
    In the Hands of the Prophets - 0
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  2. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'll vote first for the season 1 finale. It's a good episode but I'm not sure it belongs on any list of the best episodes of the series. For me it's the weakest here.

    Emissary - 0
    In the Hands of the Prophets - 1
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  3. sadsquid

    sadsquid Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    I'm voting for the same episode and for the same reasons. This list is awesome all-round though, man DS9 was an awesome show... Hope we get a blu ray remastering of it once TNG finishes!

    Emissary - 0
    In the Hands of the Prophets - 2
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  4. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Commander Red Shirt

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    1 vote for Improbable Cause. The story was very good when you put the two-parter together. However, if you watch just the first part on its own, not a lot really happens.

    Emissary - 0
    In the Hands of the Prophets - 2
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 1
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 1
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  5. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Commander Red Shirt

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    If this doesn't happen it will be the second biggest disappointment of my life, ahead of several sporting events but behind getting c-blocked by the USAF on my wedding night. :lol:
     
  6. BlueStuff

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    I'm fixing the list because someone randomly added a point to WYLB for some reason. ;)

    Emissary - 0
    In the Hands of the Prophets - 2
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 1
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  7. jimbotron

    jimbotron Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Another vote for In the Hands of the Prophets. Great season 1 episode, but the bar was raised in subsequent seasons. Robin Christopher (not to be confused with Christopher Robin) sure was a good looking lady.


    Emissary - 0
    In the Hands of the Prophets - 3
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 1
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  8. R. Star

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    I'll kill the Hands of the Prophets. Good episode, Winn and Bareil were interesting, but really only sets up the great things to come than aspire to greatness itself.

    Emissary - 0
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0

    Scores reset now, right?
     
  9. jimbotron

    jimbotron Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    ^Scores reset, and you could have voted for the next round right away.

    I guess I'll vote for The Wire, and I love that episode. I guess if I were asked about my top 14 episodes, they would be these.

    Emissary - 0
    The Wire - 1
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  10. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That's correct.

    My next vote goes to Return to Grace. I think that Starship Down should've been runner-up over this one. It's the weakest left in my view. DS9 is so strong that at this point of the game, pretty much every round is going to be a matter of "this is a great episode but I like the others more".

    Emissary - 0
    The Wire - 1
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 1
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  11. R. Star

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    Pretty much what you said. Good episode, but a Dukat/Kira character piece is not -as- good as the rest. Return to Grace +1

    Emissary - 0
    The Wire - 1
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 2
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  12. MacLeod

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    Mine goes to the pilot "Emissary"

    The other episodes are far stronger.

    Emissary - 1
    The Wire - 1
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 2
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  13. Roboturner913

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    One for Necessary Evil. Just not as good as the others, IMO.

    Emissary - 1
    The Wire - 1
    Necessary Evil - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 2
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  14. JirinPanthosa

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    In a group of As, The Wire is a B.

    Emissary - 1
    The Wire - 2
    Necessary Evil - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 2
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  15. MacLeod

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    Why do I think this is only going to get harder and harder to choose?
     
  16. R. Star

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    Because it is? I have no idea who I'm gonna vote for after this.
     
  17. Claudia

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    Another vote for Emissary - never did much for me, neither as a pilot to a TV-series, nor as an introduction to one of the main series arcs and the main characters. I'm happy DS9 got so good despite this pilot episode. *g*

    Emissary - 2
    The Wire - 2
    Necessary Evil - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 2
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0[/QUOTE]
     
  18. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    Return to Grace is easily the weakest episode here for me. It's merely good, whilst everything else is very good or excellent.

    Emissary - 2
    The Wire - 2
    Necessary Evil - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 3
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  19. Bad Thoughts

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    Return to Grace: great concept, and great performances. However, I felt that the dialogue went to far with Dukat, making him seem both unimaginative and incompetent. That's unrealisitc. Effectively, Kira set up the Cardassian resistance.

    Emissary - 2
    The Wire - 2
    Necessary Evil - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    Return to Grace - 4
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  20. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    And we're back to zero - Return to Grace is gone. Now I'm going to have to start pulling teeth. I think Emissary is a brilliant opener to the series, and is also one of the best Trek pilots. It's just lesser than the rest. If you want an actual reason, then Bashir is a bit of a jerk. :D

    Emissary - 1
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0