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The least disliked episode of DISCO - Season Two

BlueStuff

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This is a game that we play on the other boards every few years, and it's generally a lot of fun, providing a chance to mentally revisit those episodes you may not have thought about in a while. With that in mind, after two seasons, it's time to bring it to DISCO.

So, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, please leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode just because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win.
Pretty simple. Enjoy! :bolian:

Season Two

Brother
New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Through the Valley of Shadows
Such Sweet Sorrow I
Such Sweet Sorrow II
 
I'm nixing "The Red Angel." While there's episodes that I think may be worse from an entertainment standpoint (The Red Angel is at least fast-paced), it gets the axe for one simple reason: mounds and mounds and mounds of exposition, none of which makes a lick of damn sense. It marks the point where, in my opinion, the season tripped over its own feet and never recovered. The exposition isn't interesting, the character drama doesn't work, and the whole thing is just painful. (It reminds me a lot of my least favorite episode of the rebooted Battlestar Galactica, "No Exit," which suffered similar problems of having to untangle a confusing and muddled mythology and being really interminable about it.)

Brother
New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Perpetual Infinity
Through the Valley of Shadows
Such Sweet Sorrow I
Such Sweet Sorrow II
 
"Such Sweet Sorrow, Part II" goes. There are some good things about it, but it felt like battle overload after a bit. It got hard to keep track after a while.


Brother
New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Perpetual Infinity
Through the Valley of Shadows
Such Sweet Sorrow I
 
For me - "Point Of Light" has got to go. I didn't care for the resolution to the Klingon storyline in ST: D S1; and continuing it to the point we see L'Rell has a child with Ash, and her ending line of: "Call me Mother!" - Ugh. Begone! ;)

Brother
New Eden
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Perpetual Infinity
Through the Valley of Shadows
Such Sweet Sorrow II
 
I got suuuuuuuch a sinking feeling from "Brother", I thought we were really looking at a disaster of a season ahead of us -- the weird comedy notes were off, the introduction of the seven signals made no sense, the action sequences were pointlessly overdone. It was an unpromising start.

New Eden
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Perpetual Infinity
Through the Valley of Shadows
Such Sweet Sorrow I
 
I'm going to cut "Perpetual Infinity" because, after checking a list of plot synopses, that was actually the episode I was thinking of when I axed "The Red Angel." Not that it much matters – both are overwrought, I just got plot points from one mixed up with the other. "Red Angel" goes for revealing that Burnham's parents worked for Section 31, and "Infinity" is being removed for the unconvincing melodrama with Burn!Mom.

New Eden
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Through the Valley of Shadows
Such Sweet Sorrow I
 
'm going to cut "Perpetual Infinity" because, after checking a list of plot synopses, that was actually the episode I was thinking of when I axed "The Red Angel." Not that it much matters – both are overwrought, I just got plot points from one mixed up with the other. "Red Angel" goes for revealing that Burnham's parents worked for Section 31, and "Infinity" is being removed for the unconvincing melodrama with Burn!Mom.

Right there with you. I get these two confused all. the. time. They really blur into one indigestible mass of frustrating, clunky exposition.
 
The Sound of Thunder goes, as this is when my stomach got that sinking feeling of "they're gonna make the RA a person, aren't they?" and essentially ruined the arc for me...and I'm not a huge Saru fan.



New Eden
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Through the Valley of Shadows
Such Sweet Sorrow I
 
this is when my stomach got that sinking feeling of "they're gonna make the RA a person, aren't they?"

Ah yes, the "I can tell it's a time traveller just by looking with my eyeballs" development.
 
Waves bye to "Such Sweet Sorrow I". Such a dull and unneeded installment. Sometimes brevity is a good thing in fiction.

New Eden
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Through the Valley of Shadows
 
Light and Shadows has split personality syndrome. I enjoyed everything happening on Vulcan, but the Pike/Tyler plot was far too annoying and distracting on rewatching.

New Eden
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Through the Valley of Shadows
 
I'm going to nix An Obol for Charon. While there were aspects that worked, the whole Saru asking Burnham to kill him, with all the emotional overwroughtness that entailed made it not work for me.

New Eden
Saints of Imperfection
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Through the Valley of Shadows
 
Saints of Imperfection is out. A little too busy for me.

New Eden
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
Through the Valley of Shadows
 
"Through the Valley of Shadows" is out, I did like the Pike bits but the time crystals is a stupid plot device and section 31 nanite monster wasn't great either.

New Eden
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
 
I love all three of these. I'll remove New Eden as I have stronger memories of the other two episodes.

If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
 
Both episodes are excellent, but the one that got me the most was "Project Daedalaus". I LOVED Airiam's character, and I was very sad at what happened. Deftly directed by Frakes, that episode wins.
 
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