The least disliked episode 2021 - VOY Season Three

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  1. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Our addictive biyearly game of rapid elimination returns - now able to include Disco's third season as well as the debut years of Picard and Lower Decks. It's generally a lot of fun, providing a chance to mentally revisit those episodes you may not have thought about in a while. With that in mind, why not play again?

    So, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

    No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode just because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win.
    Pretty simple. Enjoy! :bolian:

    Hall of Champions
    2011 - Meld
    2013 - Living Witness
    2017 - Blink of an Eye
    2019 - Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy
    2021 -


    Season Three

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    False Profits
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    The Q and the Grey
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Favorite Son
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
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  2. freethinker

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    "Favorite Son" is my least favorite. It's really bad. Plus the modified guy is just stupid. Why would you do that to extract "genetic material"? I've heard of people drained by too much sex but this is a bit overboard. Plus the final scene with Harry surrounded by the girls is really badly made. You'd think it's some kind of fan job and not a very good one.

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    False Profits
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    The Q and the Grey
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
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  3. freethinker

    freethinker Lieutenant Commander Newbie

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    * I meant to write "mummified" but the inept spelling corrector changed it to "modified"!!
     
  4. Farscape One

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    "FALSE PROFITS" easily wins as worst episode aired this season.


    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    The Q and the Grey
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I



    (I just added "REAL LIFE" because I noticed it was left out of the original list.)
     
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  5. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Thanks for noticing that; not sure how that happened. I'll edit it into the list to refer to for future games.
     
  6. BK613

    BK613 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Q long ago overstayed his welcome and the punny titles had ceased to amuse. The Q and the Grey is consigned to the history books.

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord

    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
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  7. freethinker

    freethinker Lieutenant Commander Newbie

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    To err is human.;)
     
  8. BigDaveX

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    Sacred Ground. I'm sure there was a genuine message about faith in there, but I was too bored and confused to work out what lesson I was supposed to be learning.

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
  9. freethinker

    freethinker Lieutenant Commander Newbie

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    "Darkling" is also really bad. Voyager's answer to Doctor Jekyll and Mister hyde.. I guess but without anything original to add.


    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Rise
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
  10. Qonundrum

    Qonundrum Vice Admiral Admiral

    No qualms here... even then, the story as a couple plus points...

    Ethan Philips is great as Neelix-playing-a-Ferengi to infiltrate, but he's better when playing just an outright evil one (Menage-a-Trois TNG season 3). But he's got fantastic range.

    Refreshingly lively costuming - in hue and tailoring too.

    Basic premise is a nice follow-up to TNG "The Price" and is the only reason how they could Ferengi into this spinoff. It could have worked, except the story falls over itself too many times.

    Apparently Oomox now hurts.

    Go figure, they don't get through the wormhole at the end. Is this like 1950s game shows where the host (Janeway) rigs it so they keep staying trapped?!

    If Janeway simply took the two Ferengi onto her ship, the locals would just brush it off in the same way in how they arrived to begin with. Maybe the Federation was loosely responsible at best for Ferengi breaking the rules and going through it (I don't remember enough of the TNG episode's details) but

    Not to mention long the Ferengir shuttle would have provided power for the replicator, etc, it doesn't run on burning wood logs...



    Yup. This was superficially amusing a long time ago but it's not aged well. VOY did worse things to the Q than they did to the Borg.
     
  11. JirinPanthosa

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    Removing Distant Origin. The idea of dinosaurs is just so dumb and the moral of the story so heavy handed.

    False Profits is worst Trek episode of all time.
    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Rise
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
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  12. BK613

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    Why do they always do a prison episode? The Chute is sluiced to the great beyond.

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback

    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Rise
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
  13. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    I forgot what Rise was about until I looked it up. Afterwards, I wished I didn't bother. Bye Rise!

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
  14. JirinPanthosa

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    Eliminating Coda.

    It just kinda doesn't go anywhere interesting. Raises some philosophical questions and does nothing with them, just meanders around in dreamville.

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
  15. Brennyren

    Brennyren Commodore Commodore

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    Cool, I still get to eliminate my least-favorite episode of the season, "Blood Fever," which manages to be stupid and offensive all at the same time. Honestly, the only one who acquits himself with any dignity is Paris, as the only guy on the scene who appears to have some idea of what constitutes consent.

    The stupid: it is fairly incomprehensible to me that the Doctor has absolutely no data on pon farr. You will never convince me that McCoy didn't get that info into medical records after what happened with Spock; he would count Vulcan taboos as less important than the risk to Vulcan lives. Did the Vulcans remove or censor the information? Then they're massive asses who literally would rather let members of their own species die than violate a cultural modesty taboo, and they also have no claim to be called logical.

    The stupid, part 2: how did Vorik get down to the planet? Wasn't anyone watching him? Or is Tuvok the only security officer on the ship, and anything goes when he's away?

    The stupid, part 3: While Kirk and Spock fought for a whole act before Spock's pon farr was purged, Torres and Vorik wrestled for a couple minutes, and that was all it took. Really? Makes you wonder why more Vulcans don't just opt for arm-wrestling tournaments over arranged marriages, doesn't it?

    The offensive: Vorik. Vorik. Vorik. Date rape much? Entitled much? And Tuvok seemed more interested in defending him than in recognizing that he had violated Torres! Nice planet you clowns come from. Oh, and also, thanks, Chakotay, for being of absolutely no help. As I said, Paris is the only guy in the scenario who seems to know what consent is. That Vorik wasn't brigged the moment he got back to the ship is beyond my comprehension.

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
  16. Farscape One

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    The middle of season 3 was so... middling. "BLOOD FEVER" is a perfect example of that, so it goes.


    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
  17. freethinker

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    "Macrocosm" is Voyager "Genesis", IOW it's worthless, Janeway moves around the ship shooting giant bugs and of course the ship is repaired by the end of the episode...

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Before and After
    Real Life
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
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  18. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    "Real Life" First we have to endure yet another of the Doctor's ego trips with his "perfect" family. Then we have to endure an extremely cliche 90's sitcom "dysfunctional" family and then it ends with he cliche message that "tragedy brings people together"
    Screw this whole episode.

    Basics, Part II
    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Before and After
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
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  19. Brennyren

    Brennyren Commodore Commodore

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    After they chose to make Seska's baby not Chakotay's, thereby rendering Chakotay's and the crew's decisions in "Basics I" meaningless and even stupid (and making half-a-season's angst moot), I don't think I ever trusted Voyager's TPTB to pay off a storyline properly again. Also, stupid death for Seska. So kiss off, "Basics II."

    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Before and After
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I
     
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  20. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    Displaced sticks out like a saw thumb in the last few awesome episodes of the season. It's a cute idea, but it's not executed in a memorable way.

    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End, Part I
    Future's End, Part II
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Before and After
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion, Part I