The Galactic Journey through Pre-Trek

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Neopeius, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. kkt

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    I'm trying to imagine how DeForest Kelly would play Spock.
     
  2. Henoch

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    At first, Spock was to be very emotional. "Damn it, Chris, I'm a science officer, not a country doctor!" :rommie:
     
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  3. Poltargyst

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    Michael Dunn would certainly have made for a much different Spock.
     
  4. Henoch

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    Camera angles and scene set-ups would be interesting and creative over the three years. Check out the wild screencaps from Plato's Stepchildren; there's a lot of chair sitting, bench lounging and kneeing...
     
  5. Poltargyst

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    Would Michael Dunn's height be characteristic of Vulcans? They would have been a short people? They could still have been intellectual and logical and had wacky mind powers, but I'm guessing there wouldn't have been any neck pinches.

    So would we have had Romulans? Probably no Amok Time at least not involving a big fight scene. Star Trek would be so radically different.
     
  6. Phaser Two

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    This is utterly, well, fascinating considering how outstanding an actor Dunn was. Was this really a thing? Has it ever been discussed here before? Why the hell aren't I notified about these things??

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  7. Poltargyst

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    I just saw it for the first time in this thread.
     
  8. Maurice

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    Dorothy Fontana made it very clear that Nimoy was IT as far as GR was concerned. But they always consider other actors just is case they can't get their first choice,.
     
  9. johnnybear

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    Or the actor of their choice isn't interested or starts moaning about payments that he's owed? :vulcan:
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  10. mb22

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    Notice, that with the exception of Nimoy, none of the listed actors ended up in those roles in "The Cage", although eventually some did portray other characters in the series itself.

    EDIT: Oops, I left out Magel (sic) Barrett. But she was a 'special' case.;)
     
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  11. Maurice

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    And what does that have to do with casting a pilot that said actor's not yet appeared in?
     
  12. Neopeius

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    Michael Dunn was just on Wild Wild West (October 1, 1965).

    Also, it looks like only the first episode of Get Smart was in black and white...
     
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  13. Neopeius

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    Been hard getting time to watch TV last week, but here are a couple of sightings:

    Michael Dunn again on Amos Burke: Secret Agent (a travesty of a show, worse in every way than the excellent Burke's Law) doing some pretty unfortunate brownface:

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    Michael Ansara on The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (10-29-65):

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  14. Neopeius

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    Jill Ireland in this week's U.N.C.L.E.

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    Yesterday's episode of Twelve O' Clock High featured William Shatner as a B-17 pilot. Interestingly, they did not play the "General Savage theme", which sounds just like the Captain Kirk theme (Ba ba BAAA ba ba ba ba BAAAA)

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  16. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    If you're watching the version that's on YouTube, there's an obvious edit at the beginning of one of the acts (wanna say it was Act III offhand), which involved substituting an act break card that didn't match the style used in the series. In the version that H&I airs, the unedited act opening with original act card does include that theme...and Shatner's on camera, but in long shot as I recall.
     
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  17. Neopeius

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    Huh! Thank you for that.

    He really is quite compelling and he's got range. If you see him in For the People, for instance, he plays a completely different (and less likable) character than Kirk or Major Brown.

    Also, seeing him opposite Paul Burke (Colonel Gallagher) just makes you miss Robert Lansing all the more. I saw a recent (1965) interview with Bob, and of course they asked him if there was a lot of drama regarding his firing. He played it down, said the papers had made too much of nothing.

    But the show definitely suffered for his absence, though it certainly was a realistic ending for his character. B-17ing is a bloody business.
     
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    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    My main impression watching that episode was that Shatner was earning his reputation for overacting. He seemed like he belonged on a different show from the regulars and other lead guests. There was a scene with Gallagher and General Britt, I think, in which Shat goes into a monologue, and I could picture Burke and Duggan sitting back eating popcorn while they watched him.
     
  19. Neopeius

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    I felt that was how the part was written, though. It's not like Bill added words. :)

    Anyway, Burke never compelled in a single scene he was in.
     
  20. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    It was a matter of acting style, not script. A different actor could have been given the same lines and delivered them in a more naturalistic style.
     
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