The Delta Quadrant sure is a small place

[Jaespol]

Voyager really made it feel like the DQ was a really small place.
Not only do they find humans in the DQ within the first year (Oh brother )
but one of the most striking examples for me was this...

So they first meet the Hirogen after they are catapulted 9500 lightyears by Kes in season 4, fair enough.
Then 3 years later and at LEAST a good 22,000 lightyears later (20,000 coming the warp coil in "Dark Frontier") they meet them again in season 7 and they somehow have the holotechnology they got back in season 4...
I can maybe believe there being hirogen hunting parties far apart (although to be honest the species never made much sense to me) but how did the technology they get manage to travel 20,000 lightyears in 3 years?
Did they steal a transwarp coil as well?
What a load of nonsense!

 

[Frazzled]

Yup. Plus the Think tank they met halfway home had just cured the Vidiian Phage.

Neelix met those Talaxians right at the end.

Plus they bumped into the Equinox more than five years after both ships being thrown across the galaxy by the caretaker, and voyager at least having travelled, what? 25 000 lightyears or something?

Oh and they find that Mars probe thing in One Small Step.

But hey ho, nevermind. This is Trek, the home of the amazing coincidence - and it led to some fabulous stories!

 

[Tentacle]

Yup. Plus the Think tank they met halfway home had just cured the Vidiian Phage.

Think tank travels out side of normal space.

Neelix met those Talaxians right at the end.

they never did say how long it took the talaxians to get to that rock in space.

Plus they bumped into the Equinox more than five years after both ships being thrown across the galaxy by the caretaker, and voyager at least having travelled, what? 25 000 lightyears or something?

Equinox used alien juice to boost their speed.

Oh and they find that Mars probe thing in One Small Step.

The mars probe traveled hundreds of years to get to where it is.

Sometimes I think you people dont pay enough attention when you are watching something.

 

[Tomalak]

The Hirogen did have that massive communications array that reached the edge of the Alpha Quadrant, so it's not too hard to believe they are scattered very far and wide. Maybe the array was repaired, and the holo technology transferred to them all?

 

[Tachyon]

Maybe some of them accidently found those Vaadwaur subspace tunnels also Janeway was very interested to utilize until Seven messed things up.

 

[Finn]

Oh and they find that Mars probe thing in One Small Step.

The mars probe traveled hundreds of years to get to where it is.

Sometimes I think you people dont pay enough attention when you are watching something.

I think you are thinking of Friendship One. The Mars Probe was the one that was caught in that big subspace fireball that Chakotay was insistent on getting and Seven spent the whole episode listening to that lone astronaut's log entries.

 

[Frazzled]

Yes I know all these things had used alien juice to travel huge distances, or traveled outside normal space or have taken decades. My point isn't that they made it across the galaxy, it's that in such a massive area of space it was a huge coincidence for Voyager to bump into them, to be in the same place at the same time.

 

[brcarthey]

Oh and they find that Mars probe thing in One Small Step.

The mars probe traveled hundreds of years to get to where it is.

Sometimes I think you people dont pay enough attention when you are watching something.

I think you are thinking of Friendship One. The Mars Probe was the one that was caught in that big subspace fireball that Chakotay was insistent on getting and Seven spent the whole episode listening to that lone astronaut's log entries.

if frazzled is referring to "one small step," the ares IV craft was caught by a level nine gravimetric distortion aka a graviton ellipse which traveled in and out of subspace. plus that craft had been taken from mars in 2032. so it very easily could've gotten to where it was by the time voyager encountered it.

 

[Frazzled]

if frazzled is referring to "one small step," the ares IV craft was caught by a level nine gravimetric distortion aka a graviton ellipse which traveled in and out of subspace. plus that craft had been taken from mars in 2032. so it very easily could've gotten to where it was by the time voyager encountered it.

I'm sure it could, that wasn't my point. It was amazing that of all the directions it could 've floated in that it crossed Voyager's path when it was something Chakotay had been interested in.

Other than that I can't remember much of one small step - no, I wasn't paying attention! It bored me silly!

 

[brcarthey]

if frazzled is referring to "one small step," the ares IV craft was caught by a level nine gravimetric distortion aka a graviton ellipse which traveled in and out of subspace. plus that craft had been taken from mars in 2032. so it very easily could've gotten to where it was by the time voyager encountered it.

I'm sure it could, that wasn't my point. It was amazing that of all the directions it could 've floated in that it crossed Voyager's path when it was something Chakotay had been interested in.

Other than that I can't remember much of one small step - no, I wasn't paying attention! It bored me silly!

just think how bored you would've been had chakotay been the primary focus of the episode and not seven. this was originally written for him to be over on the ares IV craft.

but, to your original point...isn't that the point of television and movies. the amount of coincidental interactions is almost involved in every plot of every movie and tv show. oh look our main character is just taking a leisurely stroll through the forest and happens to witness what he believes to be government secrets changing hands. wow! what a coincidence.

 

[Tachyon]

^It should have been Chakotay-centric episode, without a doubt.

And what comes to Hirogen and them coming again in the picture on season 7, the first time we saw the subspace relay network in season 4 (Message In The Bottle), it was spread across the DQ. Even though the network were not necessarily theirs, one could assume that because they were using it, they may have travelled acrossed DQ over the centuries (since they didn't have any particular homeworld in the first place).

 

[karenjeane]

More distressing is that the Delta Quadrant was not only small, but terribly dull. There is no reason for any Federation ships to go there. Well, maybe they can take a nap in that dark zone from Night.

 

[Lynx]

Sometimes the Delta Quadrant seems smaller than Braga's backyard.

They discover a planet with humans abducted on Earth in the 1930's. Amelia Earhart is one of them.

From the 26 of April 2371 to the 14 of January 2373, they were travelling through Kazon space, crossing the areas of several Kazon sects. Still they are dealing with the same Kazon-Nistrim they encountered in August 2371 ("State Of Flux").

They happen to encounter the "dreadnought" that B'Elanna re-programmed when she was in the Maquis.

They run into the two Ferengi who ended up in the Delta Quadrant in the TNG episode "The Price".

They are supposed to be lost about 70 000 light years from home and all of a sudden they run into some species with thechnology which can make them contact Earth as easy as a phone call from one part of Los Angeles to another.

The Hirogen, Equinox and the Talaxians on that asteroid are already mentioned.

But who am I to complain? I wrote a similar story where they did run into another Maquis ship which had been transported to the Delta Quadrant and they did also meet another old friend on board that ship.

But a certain Q was involved that time!

 

[Jaespol]

It was just a real sign of lack of imagination when it comes down to it.

 

[Anwar]

Or just typical contrivances that exist in all media, all the time.

 

[Tentacle]

Oh and they find that Mars probe thing in One Small Step.

The mars probe traveled hundreds of years to get to where it is.

Sometimes I think you people dont pay enough attention when you are watching something.

I think you are thinking of Friendship One. The Mars Probe was the one that was caught in that big subspace fireball that Chakotay was insistent on getting and Seven spent the whole episode listening to that lone astronaut's log entries.

oh rightt, It throw me off cause I never think of probes being manned.

yeah so that big subspace ball carried it to the delta quadrant.

 

[JB2005]

So they first meet the Hirogen after they are catapulted 9500 lightyears by Kes in season 4, fair enough.
Then 3 years later and at LEAST a good 22,000 lightyears later (20,000 coming the warp coil in "Dark Frontier") they meet them again in season 7 and they somehow have the holotechnology they got back in season 4...
I can maybe believe there being hirogen hunting parties far apart (although to be honest the species never made much sense to me) but how did the technology they get manage to travel 20,000 lightyears in 3 years?
Did they steal a transwarp coil as well?
What a load of nonsense!

Christie Golden tried to explain this away by writing in one of her novels (The Gateways One, but i forget the name) that Voyager had encountered another pack of Hirogeon Circa Season 6 and given them the holo-tech too, now this isn't strictly canon (meh it isn't at all) but it made Flesh and Blood make more sense to me...

 

[Jaespol]

Haha, ok cool to know someone at least tried to explain it away.

 

[JB2005]

The novels ironically tend to try and fix a canon they're not even a part of (Like GTTS explaining all the Borg-problems)

 

[Lynx]

The novels ironically tend to try and fix a canon they're not even a part of (Like GTTS explaining all the Borg-problems)

Well, someone's got to do the job.