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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

It's a Sci-Fi Classic with a message of peace, but it's really a Horror movie when you think it through. :rommie:


I should be able to report in on Part 1 in the morning.


I got you, I was just playing it up. :rommie:


I wonder if any surviving Thems knew of her actions.


Yeah, I suppose it's justifiable.


Yeah, but that's not exactly how it felt. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch felt like the people who moved out of town to live in the big city. Even as a kid in the late 60s when I first read Reed and Sue's marriage (which must have been a reprint around the time Franklin was born), I wondered why the X-Men had even been invited. It looked so weird to see them hanging around and mingling. :rommie:


It felt like I was seeing it for the first time.


I'm assuming they couldn't use the FF because they had their own cartoon, so there was a licensing conflict.


That's another thing that blew up in the 80s. It used to be that characters had specific, consistent costumes and it was a notable event if they changed-- then it got to the point where a new artist would just draw the costumes however they wanted.


I liked the first Ghostbusters, despite the presence of Bill Murray, who I generally don't like. The second one didn't impress me too much, and I haven't bothered with anything since.

i think most people liked the 1st ghostbusters movie lol

and originally johnny belushi was supposed to be in ghostbusters which now has me wonder if he was gonna be the original peter venkman
 
The first known case of the Ebola virus began
Interesting. I thought it was before then.

The United States Air Force Academy admitted women as students for the first time, as 155 of the 1,600 freshmen of the class of 1980 enrolled at the service academy at Colorado Springs, Colorado.
It's a much higher ratio these days.

The flag manufacturer said later, "We didn't think it would need air slots, so we didn't put them in."
Live and learn.

A freighter from the Soviet Union, the Dekabrist, rescued American balloonist Karl Thomas, whose attempt to fly across the Atlantic Ocean in his "Spirit of '76" hot air balloon had been ended by a thunderstorm.
The Soviets tried to return Thomas to the East Coast, but they ended up in the Azores.

He had thrown a life raft from the balloon as it was losing altitude, and jumped from the gondola from 200 feet above the ocean, fracturing several ribs and sustaining some internal bleeding in one of his lungs.
Geez. He probably should have waited a bit longer.

On July 4, Mrs. Bloch was taken from her hospital bed by Ugandan soldiers and murdered.
So the hijackers freed a bunch of elderly and infirm hostages, and the Ugandan military kills this one poor old lady. That makes perfect sense.

Tina Turner escaped her abusive husband and singing partner Ike Turner
Something else I would have guessed happened about a decade earlier.

Chris Evert of the United States won the Wimbledon women's singles championship, defeating Evonne Goolagong of Australia in a third set that went into extra games, 6-3, 4-6, 8-6.
I kinda remember this, mainly because the name Evonne Goolagong is so memorable. :rommie:

Björn Borg of Sweden won the men's singles championship at Wimbledon, defeating Ilie Nastase of Romania
He later said to Nastase, "Your distinctive skills will now be added to my own."

"Devil Woman," Cliff Richard
Very good. Strong nostalgic value.

"Lowdown," Boz Scaggs
Very good. Strong nostalgic value.

"Let 'em In," Wings
Very good. Strong nostalgic value.

"Don't Go Breaking My Heart," Elton John & Kiki Dee
Very good. Strong nostalgic value.

"You Should Be Dancing," Bee Gees
Mediocre, but some nostalgic value. Overall, this was a great batch.

I'd have to see it again to watch for that angle. That world's subsequent history no doubt unfolded quite differently from ours.
I can spoil it if you want. :rommie:

Vincent actually blamed Mike's assassination attempt on him being drunk, which is even weirder. "He gets like this when he's loaded." :rommie: Back at the hotel room, Mike said, "Let me take another look at that shoulder," but he didn't and that was the last time it was ever mentioned.

When Ellie was outed as a Them, she unsuccessfully tried to flee the apartment and Vincent started to call the police-- to what end, I don't know. That's when she revealed to him that she was Pro-Alien but Anti-This Plot. But she never explained specifically what was the problem with the plot. She did reveal that they had people ready to step in once the heads of state were dead, so it was essentially a global coup of the major powers. Made me wonder if that means the Vice President is a Them.

William Windom, as you say, was really good. Once his crisis of conscience was over, he really stood up to his captors and took quite a beating. It was a nice moment when he resisted the crystal and destroyed it. The shock therapy chamber reminded me of the agonizer booth in the Mirror Universe. :rommie:

"Ah, sho you win thish round, Trebek!"
Okay, I know it's a game show reference.... :rommie:

I got the impression not; she wasn't going into hiding or anything.
I wonder what she'll do if the alien plots get more risky and extreme as time goes on. Nothing, I suppose, since we'll never see her again.

Looking it up, I'm finding that the story was reprinted in FF Annual #10 in '73. Don't know if there were any reprints earlier than that.
Hmm. It was definitely 68 or 69, because I remember reading it in my room in Dorchester. It may have been a back issue that my Uncle Mike dug up for me. Or it may have turned up in one of those sealed plastic packages of three comics with half the covers torn off that you could get in those days-- which I think was illegal. There was a drugstore on the next street over from me that had a whole magazine rack full of them. :rommie:

The cool thing was that the MSH cartoon freely used Avengers from that era that weren't regulars on the show. We saw Hawkeye here; and I recall Giant-Man/Goliath and the Wasp popping up at least a couple of times (in the retelling of Cap being found by the Avengers and the Super-Adaptoid story).
I don't know if this was specific to my area, but the show I watched was hosted by a live-action Captain America.

It was also around the same time period, but the Wasp was probably the trailblazer of that phenomenon. She came to treat costumes like outfits in a wardrobe.
Yeah, that was a character trait. I think it came about because George Perez just loved designing new costumes for her. :rommie:

I didn't even get all the hoopla over the first film at the time.
Well, it wasn't a blockbuster to me like it was to other people, but I enjoyed it. It's not in my DVD collection or anything.

i think most people liked the 1st ghostbusters movie lol

and originally johnny belushi was supposed to be in ghostbusters which now has me wonder if he was gonna be the original peter venkman
I've read that the original was going to be very different when Belushi was involved, with the main characters traveling through time and space kind of like Bill & Ted.
 
The Soviets tried to return Thomas to the East Coast, but they ended up in the Azores.
If that's a joke about their space program, then Capped.

So the hijackers freed a bunch of elderly and infirm hostages, and the Ugandan military kills this one poor old lady. That makes perfect sense.
I guess they considered her a loose end.

Something else I would have guessed happened about a decade earlier.
That definitely wouldn't be the case, as their highest-charting hit together, "Proud Mary," was in '71.

I kinda remember this, mainly because the name Evonne Goolagong is so memorable. :rommie:
Now that you mention it, that does seem familiar.

He later said to Nastase, "Your distinctive skills will now be added to my own."
Futilely resisted.

Very good. Strong nostalgic value.
Cliff Richard was the biggest pop idol of the pre-Beatles British music scene, but barely blipped on the American radar in his late-50s heyday. I'm mainly familiar with him because he was frequently referenced on the British comedy The Young Ones, which I used to catch on MTV in the '80s. The opening theme was a version of one of his songs.

Very good. Strong nostalgic value.
There's another very recognizable one coming up from the same album; it's already on my playlist.

Very good. Strong nostalgic value.
A pleasant, low-key hit. Some of the visitors named in the chorus are actual relatives of Paul. "Phil and Don" is an Everly Brothers shout-out.

Very good. Strong nostalgic value.
A pleasant classic of the era, but Elton's definitely past his early peak here.

Mediocre, but some nostalgic value.
This is where their disco era really kicks in. I've always enjoyed this one.

It's best remembered for its use in the movie, which I'm not as familiar with:
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Overall, this was a great batch.
Yeah, and there were several other entries of interest that got pushed back.

Vincent actually blamed Mike's assassination attempt on him being drunk, which is even weirder. "He gets like this when he's loaded." :rommie:
Yeah, you'd think he'd at least be put in temporary custody for that.

Back at the hotel room, Mike said, "Let me take another look at that shoulder," but he didn't and that was the last time it was ever mentioned.
Handwave.

That's when she revealed to him that she was Pro-Alien but Anti-This Plot. But she never explained specifically what was the problem with the plot.
Now having gone back to look, she did:

The operation my people are planning is extremely hazardous. In my opinion, it can only backfire....It will alert your people to our presence here and unite them against us before we've arrived in sufficient numbers to complete our takeover.​

She did reveal that they had people ready to step in once the heads of state were dead, so it was essentially a global coup of the major powers. Made me wonder if that means the Vice President is a Them.
I always had a feeling about Humphrey... :shifty: Just imagine if Nixon saved us from an alien coup! :lol:

William Windom, as you say, was really good. Once his crisis of conscience was over, he really stood up to his captors and took quite a beating. It was a nice moment when he resisted the crystal and destroyed it. The shock therapy chamber reminded me of the agonizer booth in the Mirror Universe. :rommie:
That appears to have been a modification of one of their regen tubes. Normally the glass/clear plastic portion lowers as one piece. Here it closed around him.

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"The name ish Vinshent...David Vinshent."

Okay, I know it's a game show reference.... :rommie:
We gotta get you some pop culture, boy.
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The Celebrity Jeopardy sketches featuring Will Ferrell's Trebek vs. Darrell Hammond's Connery were a recurring thing.

Hmm. It was definitely 68 or 69, because I remember reading it in my room in Dorchester. It may have been a back issue that my Uncle Mike dug up for me. Or it may have turned up in one of those sealed plastic packages of three comics with half the covers torn off that you could get in those days-- which I think was illegal. There was a drugstore on the next street over from me that had a whole magazine rack full of them. :rommie:
I thought the story might have been in one of the various reprint titles Marvel had going in the late '60s, but I'm not getting any positive results for it.

I don't know if this was specific to my area, but the show I watched was hosted by a live-action Captain America.
Sounds channel-specific. Kids' shows often ran that way locally.

I've read that the original was going to be very different when Belushi was involved, with the main characters traveling through time and space kind of like Bill & Ted.
I never knew that Belushi was involved with the film. It must have been in development for a while.
 
Interesting. I thought it was before then.


It's a much higher ratio these days.


Live and learn.


The Soviets tried to return Thomas to the East Coast, but they ended up in the Azores.


Geez. He probably should have waited a bit longer.


So the hijackers freed a bunch of elderly and infirm hostages, and the Ugandan military kills this one poor old lady. That makes perfect sense.


Something else I would have guessed happened about a decade earlier.


I kinda remember this, mainly because the name Evonne Goolagong is so memorable. :rommie:


He later said to Nastase, "Your distinctive skills will now be added to my own."


Very good. Strong nostalgic value.


Very good. Strong nostalgic value.


Very good. Strong nostalgic value.


Very good. Strong nostalgic value.


Mediocre, but some nostalgic value. Overall, this was a great batch.


I can spoil it if you want. :rommie:


Vincent actually blamed Mike's assassination attempt on him being drunk, which is even weirder. "He gets like this when he's loaded." :rommie: Back at the hotel room, Mike said, "Let me take another look at that shoulder," but he didn't and that was the last time it was ever mentioned.

When Ellie was outed as a Them, she unsuccessfully tried to flee the apartment and Vincent started to call the police-- to what end, I don't know. That's when she revealed to him that she was Pro-Alien but Anti-This Plot. But she never explained specifically what was the problem with the plot. She did reveal that they had people ready to step in once the heads of state were dead, so it was essentially a global coup of the major powers. Made me wonder if that means the Vice President is a Them.

William Windom, as you say, was really good. Once his crisis of conscience was over, he really stood up to his captors and took quite a beating. It was a nice moment when he resisted the crystal and destroyed it. The shock therapy chamber reminded me of the agonizer booth in the Mirror Universe. :rommie:


Okay, I know it's a game show reference.... :rommie:


I wonder what she'll do if the alien plots get more risky and extreme as time goes on. Nothing, I suppose, since we'll never see her again.


Hmm. It was definitely 68 or 69, because I remember reading it in my room in Dorchester. It may have been a back issue that my Uncle Mike dug up for me. Or it may have turned up in one of those sealed plastic packages of three comics with half the covers torn off that you could get in those days-- which I think was illegal. There was a drugstore on the next street over from me that had a whole magazine rack full of them. :rommie:


I don't know if this was specific to my area, but the show I watched was hosted by a live-action Captain America.


Yeah, that was a character trait. I think it came about because George Perez just loved designing new costumes for her. :rommie:


Well, it wasn't a blockbuster to me like it was to other people, but I enjoyed it. It's not in my DVD collection or anything.


I've read that the original was going to be very different when Belushi was involved, with the main characters traveling through time and space kind of like Bill & Ted.

imagine if that happened in ghostbusters 1

which most likely probley did happen in the ghostbusters movie on alternate earths in the multiverse where it was about space and time

and other alternate earths in the multiverse probley had jim belushi in the ghostbusters movie where he is still alive and never died in 1982
 
If that's a joke about their space program, then Capped.
It was. :rommie:

I guess they considered her a loose end.
That's just horrible.

That definitely wouldn't be the case, as their highest-charting hit together, "Proud Mary," was in '71.
I'm sure that fact existed somewhere in my brain, but it never would have come up. :rommie:

Cliff Richard was the biggest pop idol of the pre-Beatles British music scene, but barely blipped on the American radar in his late-50s heyday. I'm mainly familiar with him because he was frequently referenced on the British comedy The Young Ones, which I used to catch on MTV in the '80s. The opening theme was a version of one of his songs.
Amazing. He was always just a One-Hit Wonder as far as I knew.

There's another very recognizable one coming up from the same album; it's already on my playlist.
I'm sure I know what it is, unless I'm forgetting something, and it's definitely their best.

A pleasant, low-key hit. Some of the visitors named in the chorus are actual relatives of Paul. "Phil and Don" is an Everly Brothers shout-out.
Cute. I don't think I knew that.

A pleasant classic of the era, but Elton's definitely past his early peak here.
I think this is pretty much the end for him, except for a couple of minor hits. Actually, I think there's one more coming that lives up to his highest standard.

It's best remembered for its use in the movie, which I'm not as familiar with:
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Ow. My eyes. :(

Yeah, you'd think he'd at least be put in temporary custody for that.
Eh, just throw a little cold water in his face and he'll dial back the deadly assaults. :rommie:

Handwave.
Shoulder shrug. :rommie:

Now having gone back to look, she did:

The operation my people are planning is extremely hazardous. In my opinion, it can only backfire....It will alert your people to our presence here and unite them against us before we've arrived in sufficient numbers to complete our takeover.
Ah, you're right, I remember that. I suppose it is a serious enough escalation that it makes sense. It does make me wonder more about the hierarchy of the aliens and where she was on the ladder.

I always had a feeling about Humphrey... :shifty: Just imagine if Nixon saved us from an alien coup! :lol:
That would explain the pardon. Ford couldn't tell us. :rommie:

That appears to have been a modification of one of their regen tubes. Normally the glass/clear plastic portion lowers as one piece. Here it closed around him.
Regen is not for humans. :rommie:

"The name ish Vinshent...David Vinshent."
:rommie:

We gotta get you some pop culture, boy.
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The Celebrity Jeopardy sketches featuring Will Ferrell's Trebek vs. Darrell Hammond's Connery were a recurring thing.
Yup, I had no idea. My knowledge of game shows is virtually nil.

I thought the story might have been in one of the various reprint titles Marvel had going in the late '60s, but I'm not getting any positive results for it.
I just looked it up and I'm sure now that it was the original issue. It also contained reprints of "Captives of the Deadly Duo" and "A Visit With The Fantastic Four," both of which I remember reading in the late 60s. I must have read them all in the same place. The annual came out in 1965, so it would have been only three or four years old, so it's not too amazing that I would get my hands on a copy.

Sounds channel-specific. Kids' shows often ran that way locally.
Yeah, the Captain Boston Show was the same way. It was syndicated around the country as the Captain [Wherever] Show.

I never knew that Belushi was involved with the film. It must have been in development for a while.
I don't really know much about it. That was just a random fact in my head. I was generally not a big fan of those guys, although they did do some stuff that I liked.

imagine if that happened in ghostbusters 1

which most likely probley did happen in the ghostbusters movie on alternate earths in the multiverse where it was about space and time

and other alternate earths in the multiverse probley had jim belushi in the ghostbusters movie where he is still alive and never died in 1982
I often wonder about the great entertainment that we're missing in alternate universes. :rommie:
 


Pre-59th Anniversary Viewing



The Invaders
"The Prophet"
Originally aired November 14, 1967
Frndly said:
David poses as a religious convert to subvert Brother Avery, an alien evangelist.

The episode opens with David taking in the traveling gospel of the titular figure (Pat Hingle), which includes paying off a technician for a backstage view. After preaching about representing a heavenly host of a million saints, Avery concludes by offering proof of his nature--breaking out into a red glow, though he doesn't die, his people walking him out into the back of his truck.

The QM Narrator said:
David Vincent has seen the prophet--a saintly figure who announces the coming of a heavenly host; whose skin begins to glow at the climax of each service. Evidence that Brother Avery is an alien invader, and reason for Vincent to contact columnist Bill Shay of Now Magazine.

Shay (And what do we know Roger Perry from, class?), whom David has previously corresponded with about them, is already on the story when David drops by his home office. David explains the regenerating tubes, and while Shay doesn't appear to be a believer, he expresses interest in the story, so David offers to get him pictures of the back of the truck as evidence to corroborate it. Immediately afterward, Avery's assistant, Brother John (Richard O'Brien), gets a call from Shay, confirming that David Vincent is the guy who's been snooping around.

At the theater under the alias of Victor--Dennish Victor--David approaches Sister Claire (Zina Bethune) pretending to be a new convert wanting to join the troupe rather than the local congregation. Brother John plays along with this and approaches David about something he's seen that caused him to doubt. He drives David to an alleged spacecraft landing site, where he pulls a gun, which they struggle over. When David disarms him, John goes for his car and attempts to run David over, to be shot into red glowiness.

Brother James (Byron Keith) takes Brother Dennis to see Brother Avery in his temporary digs before a performance. When he's alone, Avery sets a crudely analog-looking timing device and takes a pill. While Avery's onstage, David breaks into Dennis's rooms to snoop around but is caught by Claire. She cuts herself trying to flee, which demonstrates that she's not one of them. David tries to tell her that Avery's a representative of a foreign power, though she refuses to believe. He offers to show her what's inside the van if she'll help him, coming out about the aliens and their regeneration tubes. We see that he's on the money, as a security guard (Ray Kellogg) operates the tube that Avery's regenerating in.

Unsure what to do about David, Claire tells him how she'd gone from disillusionment in her politician father and a failed relationship to falling in with a counterculture drug scene when she saw the light of Brother Avery. David confronts her about using her faith as another trip, afraid to see the truth because she'll be emptier than she was before. Later, as she's tending to Avery, Claire starts probing him with questions, claiming it's faith-motivated. Meanwhile, a fellow reporter (Dan Frazer) takes Shay to see Brother John's recovered car, especially interested in the burn marks on the driver's seat. Claire swipes the van key for David, who distracts the guard to get inside, where he takes pics of the equipment. Avery catches Claire snooping around his medicine closet and reassures her with documentation that the tubes are cardiac units for his condition. But as soon as she tells him where David is, he orders James to have Shay deal with David and that Sister Claire be given a heart attack.

When Shay turns up at David's hotel, his story raises suspicion, so David holds him at gunpoint, checks his pulse, and cuts him with the edge of the barrel, confirming that Shay's one of them. Shay offers to take him to Claire in exchange for the film, but not before David is jumped by two others outside. They take David to where she's being held in the van, then he takes them into the theater, trying to stall them only to be persuaded to reveal that the film's been on his person the entire time. David tosses it as a distraction and makes a break for it, to be pursued by the guard; whom David surprises, disarms, and shoots into glowing up. When Shay catches up, bearing his own pistol but hobbled by a leg injury he sustained while doing an early Ford impersonation, David gives him the same treatment. As Claire's being put into the regen tube, David bursts into the truck and goes for the high score. In his room, Avery orders the driver to get the truck away, then takes one of his pills. David and Claire arrive in time to watch him disintegrate.

In the Epilog, Claire seems to have found new purpose in helping David attempt to turn others onto them.

The QM Narrator said:
A man and a woman--two alone in the world, to resist a multitude, a mighty host. Two who will move on their separate ways--watching, waiting, fighting the invaders from the sky.

Photos:

Coincidence or continuity? The plot of a later episode involves the Believers trying to get the publisher of Now Magazine on board.



The Invaders
"Labyrinth"
Originally aired November 21, 1967
Frndly said:
The invaders stage a series of incidents to discredit David as a paranoiac.

David has brought an unconscious alien (Wilhelm von Homburg) to the office of Dr. Henry Thorne (E. J. Andre) under the story of having found him on the road after an apparent hit and run. When the X-rays turn up unusual images indicating no bone structure, Dr. Thorne is sure they must be faulty; but when the doctor returns to the exam room, the revived alien FINDs him. David fights to stop the alien from taking the X-rays, resulting in the invader accidentally stabbing himself and glowing up.

The QM Narrator said:
A small town doctor has died and his patient has disappeared. But now David Vincent has evidence: X-rays that can prove the presence of alien beings here. Evidence that he can turn over to a government research project at a prominent Illinois university.

David is met at an airport by Dr. Samuel Crowell (Ed Peck) and Professor Ed Harrison (Martin Blaine), who take him to Monroe University, where Harrison is head of a UFO project. They act very interested in the X-rays David shows them, but when David mentions having a duplicate set in his suitcase as he's leaving, Crowell and Harrison exchange a look of concern; and the latter, identifying himself as Argyle, phones in about it. As he's being dropped off at a bus depot, David catches the cab driver (William Sumper) attempting to switch the case with a lookalike he had in the trunk, and the evident alien screeches off without the real one. David tries returning to Crowell to find that the real McCoy (Ed Begley) received a phony telegram from David notifying him of a delay. David takes interest in learning that Crowell's irreverently skeptical daughter, Laura (Sally Kellerman), has a prominent scar on one of her pinkies; has just returned from Europe after 15 years; and now seems changed to her father. Crowell also introduces David to colleague Dr. Harry Mills (James Callahan), a would-be suitor of Laura. Crowell and Mills take David back to the university office of the real Prof. Harrison (And do we know who John Zaremba is now?), to show the X-rays anew. After David leaves, Mills and Harrison express some skepticism that the images could have been faked.

Back at Crowell's, David learns that Mills also knew he was coming, and had shared that info with Laura. When Dr. Thorne's wife and assistant (Virginia Christine) flies out to serve as a witness, David makes the rookie mistake of leaving Mills to pick her up after being dropped off at a tennis court to question Laura. David catches her talking to Fake Crowell (billed as Darrow), who flees the scene. Laura dismisses Darrow as someone who was asking for directions; expresses her concern that her father is neglecting more important research to pursue UFO mumbo jumbo; and when questioned about her scar, sarcastically confesses to being an alien conspirator. Dr. Crowell is defensive when David subsequently questions him about details of his daughter's absence and return, but the doctor confirms that he hadn't seen Laura since she left with her mother at the age of 11, and reaffirms that he's an ally. However, when Mills brings Mrs. Thorne to Harrison's office, she denies that David's X-rays are the ones she developed, causing David to make a scene. She leaves to get in the alien cab with Argyle, apparently under duress.

This becomes evident to David when he follows her to the airport to plead with her while she's being watched from afar by Argyle. Argyle leaves as Laura enters to deliver a message from Harry to meet him at an abandoned power plant. David proceeds to the plant alone, watched from hiding by Darrow, to find a regeneration station inside. David calls Crowell to come out and see it, requesting that he bring his Chekhov-regulated sidearm. Crowell is accompanied by Mills, who denies having sent David the message. When David takes them inside, he finds the equipment gone, replaced by more sundry and very dusty items. Crowell insists that Mills was with him during the whole timeframe that Harry could have attempted to arrange the meeting. The police having been called in, Lieutenant Eaton (William Quinn) arrives with uniformed officers and dismisses David as a run-of-the-mill kook. When David learns that Laura was headed for the university to see the X-rays, he rushes to intercept her. At the university, he insists to Crowell that his daughter is one of them who had surgery to fix her mutated fourth finger. But when David attempts to forcefully take her pulse, Crowell draws his gun, declaring David to be paranoid, and Mills calls the police.

The officers who arrive turn out to be Darrow and Argyle, who drag David away as he cries out that they're not the police. Troubled by how roughly they handled David, Crowell heads to the station. Then Laura picks up a call that turns out to the response to an inquiry that David had initiated at the airport after talking to Mrs. Thorne. She's informed by the person on the other end that Harry Mills died in an auto accident a year prior, which motivates Them Harry to draw the gun on her. She flees and takes refuge in a lab, which Mills locks her in from the outside via old-fashioned keyhole. While he proceeds to Harrison's office to burn the X-rays, Them Officers take David back to the plant, where they let slip an indication that their inside man isn't Laura. David jumps them, initiating a brawl in which Argyle accidentally shoots Darrow and David returns fire on Argyle, both aliens glowing up. Back at the university, when Mills returns to the lab to deal with Laura, she attempts to hold him off with a bottle of what she claims is nitric acid. David arrives in time to shoot Mills, glowing him up before her eyes, and she collapses crying into David's arms, telling him that it was only water.

In the Epilog, Crowell and Harrison are believers once more--the former surmising that Mills was using his inside status to divert valid information--and Laura offers to testify as a witness.

The QM Narrator said:
There are millions who doubt, some who suspect, a handful who know. David Vincent seeks to reveal the dark face of the invader so that, before it is too late, the millions who doubt will know.

Photos:



That's just horrible.
When I first browsed over that item, I was like, "Yeah...yeah...so what? Oh my God!"

I'm sure that fact existed somewhere in my brain, but it never would have come up. :rommie:
It would've come up here five years ago, along with one or two other charting singles from that era.

Amazing. He was always just a One-Hit Wonder as far as I knew.
Cliff in his '50s heyday:
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He'll have some more American hits a few years from now in 50th Anniversaryland.

I'm sure I know what it is, unless I'm forgetting something, and it's definitely their best.
Will it be one more for the road?

I think this is pretty much the end for him, except for a couple of minor hits. Actually, I think there's one more coming that lives up to his highest standard.
Commercially speaking, he had a pretty big comeback in the mid-'80s that lasted through the '90s.

It does make me wonder more about the hierarchy of the aliens and where she was on the ladder.
I think she said in there that her people would kill her, so not too high. But her position gave her access to privileged information.

That would explain the pardon. Ford couldn't tell us. :rommie:
This is all reminding me of an '88 SNL sketch of John Lovitz's Michael Dukakis reporting to his lookalike alien masters, but the clip isn't available. "We had a plan, a good plan, with death rays and battlestars."

Yup, I had no idea. My knowledge of game shows is virtually nil.
You must have picked up a little about it from the Weird Al song.

SNL was parodying how dumbed-down the questions were for celebrity contestants. Here's Tom Hanks playing a clueless and highly accident-prone version of himself in one of the sketches:
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Yeah, the Captain Boston Show was the same way. It was syndicated around the country as the Captain [Wherever] Show.
I recall that coming up before.

I often wonder about the great entertainment that we're missing in alternate universes. :rommie:
I was just reading something about how in For All Mankind's alternate Soviet Moon landing history, Star Trek: Phase II happened instead of the movies.
 
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It was. :rommie:


That's just horrible.


I'm sure that fact existed somewhere in my brain, but it never would have come up. :rommie:


Amazing. He was always just a One-Hit Wonder as far as I knew.


I'm sure I know what it is, unless I'm forgetting something, and it's definitely their best.


Cute. I don't think I knew that.


I think this is pretty much the end for him, except for a couple of minor hits. Actually, I think there's one more coming that lives up to his highest standard.


Ow. My eyes. :(


Eh, just throw a little cold water in his face and he'll dial back the deadly assaults. :rommie:


Shoulder shrug. :rommie:


Ah, you're right, I remember that. I suppose it is a serious enough escalation that it makes sense. It does make me wonder more about the hierarchy of the aliens and where she was on the ladder.


That would explain the pardon. Ford couldn't tell us. :rommie:


Regen is not for humans. :rommie:


:rommie:


Yup, I had no idea. My knowledge of game shows is virtually nil.


I just looked it up and I'm sure now that it was the original issue. It also contained reprints of "Captives of the Deadly Duo" and "A Visit With The Fantastic Four," both of which I remember reading in the late 60s. I must have read them all in the same place. The annual came out in 1965, so it would have been only three or four years old, so it's not too amazing that I would get my hands on a copy.


Yeah, the Captain Boston Show was the same way. It was syndicated around the country as the Captain [Wherever] Show.


I don't really know much about it. That was just a random fact in my head. I was generally not a big fan of those guys, although they did do some stuff that I liked.


I often wonder about the great entertainment that we're missing in alternate universes. :rommie:

i also wonder what entertainment are like on the multi infinite unlimited alternate earths in the multiverse
 
After preaching about representing a heavenly host of a million saints
So is this a UFO cult or just a regular religious cult? It's an interesting angle for the Thems to take, but I'm not sure I get their specific goal.

Avery concludes by offering proof of his nature--breaking out into a red glow, though he doesn't die
Alien NDE. :rommie:

Shay (And what do we know Roger Perry from, class?)
I'm sure it's going to be Star Trek, but I'm not remembering. :rommie:

Avery's assistant, Brother John (Richard O'Brien)
The not Riff Raff guy again.

under the alias of Victor--Dennish Victor
Cue Bond theme. :mallory:

When David disarms him, John goes for his car and attempts to run David over, to be shot into red glowiness.
This should tell David that Avery is on to him.

When he's alone, Avery sets a crudely analog-looking timing device and takes a pill.
This is kind of clever, actually.

She cuts herself trying to flee, which demonstrates that she's not one of them.
Women cut themselves a lot on this show.

He offers to show her what's inside the van if she'll help him, coming out about the aliens and their regeneration tubes.
"Yeah, sure, I'll get in the van with you to see the alien machines."

Claire tells him how she'd gone from disillusionment in her politician father and a failed relationship to falling in with a counterculture drug scene when she saw the light of Brother Avery.
Lateral moves, Claire. :rommie:

David confronts her about using her faith as another trip, afraid to see the truth because she'll be emptier than she was before.
David's not exactly cut out to be a therapist. :rommie:

especially interested in the burn marks on the driver's seat.
Have they left burn marks before?

Avery catches Claire snooping around his medicine closet and reassures her with documentation that the tubes are cardiac units for his condition.
Nice twist that he's prepared like that.

he orders James to have Shay deal with David and that Sister Claire be given a heart attack.
"I'll get my Nixon mask."

trying to stall them only to be persuaded to reveal that the film's been on his person the entire time.
Because they never bothered to search him.

but hobbled by a leg injury he sustained while doing an early Ford impersonation
"Stairs! My old nemesis!"

Claire's being put into the regen tube
And William Windom showed us what that's like.

David bursts into the truck and goes for the high score.
Level up!

Avery orders the driver to get the truck away, then takes one of his pills. David and Claire arrive in time to watch him disintegrate.
Another suicide, but at least he saved some valuable equipment. :rommie:

In the Epilog, Claire seems to have found new purpose in helping David attempt to turn others onto them.
And she'll do it by never appearing in another episode. I don't know about this one. Brother Avery seemed to have no specific goal and they were far too concerned about pictures that would have proven nothing to anybody.

Literally half of those photos are red glow ups. :rommie:

Coincidence or continuity? The plot of a later episode involves the Believers trying to get the publisher of Now Magazine on board.
It would be nice if it's continuity or a continuing plot element. It sounds familiar, though, so it might have been a generic title that was in general use.

David has brought an unconscious alien (Wilhelm von Homburg) to the office of Dr. Henry Thorne (E. J. Andre) under the story of having found him on the road after an apparent hit and run.
Which can't be true, because that would have immolated the alien. Did David knock him out and bring him to the doctor for the specific purpose of getting alien x-rays?

when the doctor returns to the exam room, the revived alien FINDs him.
David should have patted him down. Come to think of it, David should be trying to get his hands on one of those things.

resulting in the invader accidentally stabbing himself and glowing up.
"This is why I'm an anti vaxxerrrrrr....."

where Harrison is head of a UFO project.
"I'm a salaried kook with tenure."

the evident alien screeches off without the real one.
Is Ellie sure there's not enough of them yet? It seems like every other person is an alien. :rommie:

Crowell's irreverently skeptical daughter, Laura (Sally Kellerman)
The scientist in the second Star Trek pilot. Dr Denner, I think. See, I know some of them. :rommie:

has a prominent scar on one of her pinkies
Too obvious. :rommie:

has just returned from Europe after 15 years; and now seems changed to her father.
Well, y'know, fifteen years in Europe.

the real Prof. Harrison (And do we know who John Zaremba is now?)
The guy who makes the ice in the hockey court. No, wait, Lee Meriwether's colleague!

After David leaves, Mills and Harrison express some skepticism that the images could have been faked.
No way!

expresses her concern that her father is neglecting more important research to pursue UFO mumbo jumbo
"The Lizard People from the Hollow Earth are the real threat. I learned that in France."

when questioned about her scar, sarcastically confesses to being an alien conspirator.
The old tell-him-she's-an-alien-conspirator-so-he-won't-think-she's-an-alien-conspirator trick!

the doctor confirms that he hadn't seen Laura since she left with her mother at the age of 11
Well, no wonder she seems different. :rommie:

She leaves to get in the alien cab with Argyle, apparently under duress.
She should sock it to him. Haha. Okay, bring on Rudy. :rommie:

When David takes them inside, he finds the equipment gone, replaced by more sundry and very dusty items.
They excel at this.

Lieutenant Eaton (William Quinn) arrives with uniformed officers and dismisses David as a run-of-the-mill kook.
"I am not run-of-the-mill!"

Crowell draws his gun, declaring David to be paranoid, and Mills calls the police.
"I don't think everybody's out to get me. Just space aliens."

The officers who arrive turn out to be Darrow and Argyle, who drag David away as he cries out that they're not the police.
"Everybody's an alien but meeee!"

She's informed by the person on the other end that Harry Mills died in an auto accident a year prior
It's always a year ago....

David jumps them, initiating a brawl in which Argyle accidentally shoots Darrow and David returns fire on Argyle, both aliens glowing up.
Chaos. All is chaos. :rommie:

David arrives in time to shoot Mills, glowing him up before her eyes, and she collapses crying into David's arms, telling him that it was only water.
That would have worked if it was the Signs aliens.

Crowell and Harrison are believers once more--the former surmising that Mills was using his inside status to divert valid information--and Laura offers to testify as a witness.
I don't know about this one either. There seemed to be a lot of fuss in both of them about easily falsifiable evidence.

Those alien x-rays are pretty cool, though. :rommie:

When I first browsed over that item, I was like, "Yeah...yeah...so what? Oh my God!"
Yeah, so cruel and pointless.

It would've come up here five years ago, along with one or two other charting singles from that era.
I mean come up out of the depths of my mind. :rommie:

Cliff in his '50s heyday:
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Hard to believe that's the "Devil Woman" guy.

He'll have some more American hits a few years from now in 50th Anniversaryland.
Checking, I see that I recognize "We Don't Talk Anymore," but I didn't realize it was him. I may know others if I hear them.

Will it be one more for the road?
Yes, indeed. :rommie:

Commercially speaking, he had a pretty big comeback in the mid-'80s that lasted through the '90s.
Yeah, and I like some of that stuff, but it was all really just a shadow of the early 70s.

I think she said in there that her people would kill her, so not too high. But her position gave her access to privileged information.
Interesting that most of them seem ready to commit suicide for the cause, but a couple are willing to buck the system.

This is all reminding me of an '88 SNL sketch of John Lovitz's Michael Dukakis reporting to his lookalike alien masters, but the clip isn't available. "We had a plan, a good plan, with death rays and battlestars."
Poor Mike. :rommie:

You must have picked up a little about it from the Weird Al song.
Probably not as much as you'd expect. :rommie:

SNL was parodying how dumbed-down the questions were for celebrity contestants. Here's Tom Hanks playing a clueless and highly accident-prone version of himself in one of the sketches:
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Amazing. I had no idea.

I recall that coming up before.
Now that you mention it. I'm not sure why, but I remember talking about QT Hush.

I was just reading something about how in For All Mankind's alternate Soviet Moon landing history, Star Trek: Phase II happened instead of the movies.
Wow, that's an interesting and obscure detail. Was it just for texture or did it have importance to the plot?

i also wonder what entertainment are like on the multi infinite unlimited alternate earths in the multiverse
Most people wonder things like, what if the Allies lost WWII or what if JFK had lived-- I wonder things like, what if Star Trek and Night Stalker hadn't been cancelled. :rommie:
 
So is this a UFO cult or just a regular religious cult? It's an interesting angle for the Thems to take, but I'm not sure I get their specific goal.


Alien NDE. :rommie:


I'm sure it's going to be Star Trek, but I'm not remembering. :rommie:


The not Riff Raff guy again.


Cue Bond theme. :mallory:


This should tell David that Avery is on to him.


This is kind of clever, actually.


Women cut themselves a lot on this show.


"Yeah, sure, I'll get in the van with you to see the alien machines."


Lateral moves, Claire. :rommie:


David's not exactly cut out to be a therapist. :rommie:


Have they left burn marks before?


Nice twist that he's prepared like that.


"I'll get my Nixon mask."


Because they never bothered to search him.


"Stairs! My old nemesis!"


And William Windom showed us what that's like.


Level up!


Another suicide, but at least he saved some valuable equipment. :rommie:


And she'll do it by never appearing in another episode. I don't know about this one. Brother Avery seemed to have no specific goal and they were far too concerned about pictures that would have proven nothing to anybody.


Literally half of those photos are red glow ups. :rommie:


It would be nice if it's continuity or a continuing plot element. It sounds familiar, though, so it might have been a generic title that was in general use.


Which can't be true, because that would have immolated the alien. Did David knock him out and bring him to the doctor for the specific purpose of getting alien x-rays?


David should have patted him down. Come to think of it, David should be trying to get his hands on one of those things.


"This is why I'm an anti vaxxerrrrrr....."


"I'm a salaried kook with tenure."


Is Ellie sure there's not enough of them yet? It seems like every other person is an alien. :rommie:


The scientist in the second Star Trek pilot. Dr Denner, I think. See, I know some of them. :rommie:


Too obvious. :rommie:


Well, y'know, fifteen years in Europe.


The guy who makes the ice in the hockey court. No, wait, Lee Meriwether's colleague!


No way!


"The Lizard People from the Hollow Earth are the real threat. I learned that in France."


The old tell-him-she's-an-alien-conspirator-so-he-won't-think-she's-an-alien-conspirator trick!


Well, no wonder she seems different. :rommie:


She should sock it to him. Haha. Okay, bring on Rudy. :rommie:


They excel at this.


"I am not run-of-the-mill!"


"I don't think everybody's out to get me. Just space aliens."


"Everybody's an alien but meeee!"


It's always a year ago....


Chaos. All is chaos. :rommie:


That would have worked if it was the Signs aliens.


I don't know about this one either. There seemed to be a lot of fuss in both of them about easily falsifiable evidence.


Those alien x-rays are pretty cool, though. :rommie:


Yeah, so cruel and pointless.


I mean come up out of the depths of my mind. :rommie:


Hard to believe that's the "Devil Woman" guy.


Checking, I see that I recognize "We Don't Talk Anymore," but I didn't realize it was him. I may know others if I hear them.


Yes, indeed. :rommie:


Yeah, and I like some of that stuff, but it was all really just a shadow of the early 70s.


Interesting that most of them seem ready to commit suicide for the cause, but a couple are willing to buck the system.


Poor Mike. :rommie:


Probably not as much as you'd expect. :rommie:


Amazing. I had no idea.


Now that you mention it. I'm not sure why, but I remember talking about QT Hush.


Wow, that's an interesting and obscure detail. Was it just for texture or did it have importance to the plot?


Most people wonder things like, what if the Allies lost WWII or what if JFK had lived-- I wonder things like, what if Star Trek and Night Stalker hadn't been cancelled. :rommie:

exactly lol so many of the i wonders

there was a actually a streaming tv show about how the axis aka germany and japan won world war 2
 
So is this a UFO cult or just a regular religious cult?
A sham religious cult.

It's an interesting angle for the Thems to take, but I'm not sure I get their specific goal.
Y'know, if they specified what the purpose of the cult was, it got lost to my notes and my memory. I'd have to rewatch the thing to get an idea, but we can speculate that maybe it had to do with lowering resistance to the invasion and/or brainwashing humans into becoming useful minions.

Alien NDE. :rommie:
Had to look that up.

I'm sure it's going to be Star Trek, but I'm not remembering. :rommie:

This is kind of clever, actually.
You'd probably like to have one of these.
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Women cut themselves a lot on this show.
It's one of David's turn-ons.

Lateral moves, Claire. :rommie:
Another look-up.

David's not exactly cut out to be a therapist. :rommie:
More of a deprogrammer.

Have they left burn marks before?
Good question. It's not something I've been watching for, but maybe on the ground.

"I'll get my Nixon mask."
After what we've learned, Nixon would be scarier to them.

Because they never bothered to search him.
From the way he reaches into this shirt, he apparently had it under an armpit.

It would be nice if it's continuity or a continuing plot element. It sounds familiar, though, so it might have been a generic title that was in general use.
Indeed...it was the name of JJJ's other publication, first referenced prominently in Amazing Spider-Man #2. I think Carol Danvers worked there in her series.

Which can't be true, because that would have immolated the alien.
That much seemed to be a cover story for the doctor.

Did David knock him out and bring him to the doctor for the specific purpose of getting alien x-rays?
If he said, I didn't catch it.

"I'm a salaried kook with tenure."
There ya go, David--teach a course.

Is Ellie sure there's not enough of them yet? It seems like every other person is an alien. :rommie:
But David keeps whittling down their numbers.

The scientist in the second Star Trek pilot. Dr Denner, I think. See, I know some of them. :rommie:
Also the original Hot Lips.

The guy who makes the ice in the hockey court.
Did that come from anywhere in particular?

The old tell-him-she's-an-alien-conspirator-so-he-won't-think-she's-an-alien-conspirator trick!
I asked you not to tell me that!

Well, no wonder she seems different. :rommie:
Indeed.

She should sock it to him. Haha. Okay, bring on Rudy. :rommie:
You'll have to do worse than that.

"I don't think everybody's out to get me. Just space aliens."
:lol:

It's always a year ago....
Apparently a big influx point.

Those alien x-rays are pretty cool, though. :rommie:
They get reused soon.

Checking, I see that I recognize "We Don't Talk Anymore," but I didn't realize it was him. I may know others if I hear them.
"A Little in Love" is familiar to me from its title, though I couldn't tell you how it goes off the top of my head. He also duetted with Olivia on "Suddenly".

Now that you mention it. I'm not sure why, but I remember talking about QT Hush.
Yeah, that definitely came up, but I'm not sure in what context. Maybe discussing one of the Saturday morning shows?

Wow, that's an interesting and obscure detail. Was it just for texture or did it have importance to the plot?
From what I read, a throwaway reference; but Ronald D. Moore is a creator and producer, so that would be a subject close to his heart.
 
exactly lol so many of the i wonders

there was a actually a streaming tv show about how the axis aka germany and japan won world war 2
WWII and the Civil War have got to be the two most popular alternate universe topics.

A sham religious cult.
It might have been more advantageous to be a UFO cult and convince people that the UFOs are coming to save them, like they did with that guy in "Summit."

Y'know, if they specified what the purpose of the cult was, it got lost to my notes and my memory. I'd have to rewatch the thing to get an idea, but we can speculate that maybe it had to do with lowering resistance to the invasion and/or brainwashing humans into becoming useful minions.
Another reason to be a UFO cult. Come to think of it, they should have been indoctrinating their cultists with Crystal Them Persuasion as they joined.

Had to look that up.
Fascinating topic. It says some interesting things about human psychology.

Ah, but of course. I don't even have to click.

You'd probably like to have one of these.
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Actually, I think I did. :rommie:

It's one of David's turn-ons.
He's been damaged by everything he's gone through. Badly damaged.

More of a deprogrammer.
Tying women up and sticking their feet in a bucket of ice water is another one of his turn ons.

Good question. It's not something I've been watching for, but maybe on the ground.
I haven't noticed, but I also haven't been looking.

After what we've learned, Nixon would be scarier to them.
True. :rommie:

From the way he reaches into this shirt, he apparently had it under an armpit.
Searchers usually search places like that-- but the space aliens have a different native physiology, so they may not think of it.

Indeed...it was the name of JJJ's other publication, first referenced prominently in Amazing Spider-Man #2. I think Carol Danvers worked there in her series.
Yup, I remember that now.

There ya go, David--teach a course.
Actually....

But David keeps whittling down their numbers.
He does have a high body count.

Also the original Hot Lips.
Ah, yes.

Did that come from anywhere in particular?
Zaremba. Zamboni. A bit of a stretch, I guess. :rommie:

I asked you not to tell me that!
:rommie:

You'll have to do worse than that.
I'll try!

Apparently a big influx point.
Makes sense, actually.

They get reused soon.
Cool.

"A Little in Love" is familiar to me from its title, though I couldn't tell you how it goes off the top of my head. He also duetted with Olivia on "Suddenly".
Not sure about those. I wasn't listening to a lot of Top 40 in that period. That's when I was hanging out down in Hartford, listening to obscure New Wave and Punk records.

Yeah, that definitely came up, but I'm not sure in what context. Maybe discussing one of the Saturday morning shows?
Probably. I also remember mentioning Hong Kong Phooey.

From what I read, a throwaway reference; but Ronald D. Moore is a creator and producer, so that would be a subject close to his heart.
Ah, a little Easter Egg. I didn't know he was involved.
 
It might have been more advantageous to be a UFO cult and convince people that the UFOs are coming to save them, like they did with that guy in "Summit."
Maybe they were building up to that.

Fascinating topic. It says some interesting things about human psychology.
I've heard of it, just didn't recognize the abbreviation.

Actually, I think I did. :rommie:
What was it in real life, a clock radio?

Maybe his enemies list was really a list of them.

Searchers usually search places like that-- but the space aliens have a different native physiology, so they may not think of it.
They seemed to think it was clever.

Actually....
Yes...?

Zaremba. Zamboni. A bit of a stretch, I guess. :rommie:
Now looked up. I'm starting to feel like Tom Hanks..."I don't know what that is."

Not sure about those. I wasn't listening to a lot of Top 40 in that period. That's when I was hanging out down in Hartford, listening to obscure New Wave and Punk records.
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Probably. I also remember mentioning Hong Kong Phooey.
Yep.
 
Maybe they were building up to that.
Could be.

I've heard of it, just didn't recognize the abbreviation.
Ah, okay.

What was it in real life, a clock radio?
No, it was a manual timer. You would plug something into it and then plug the other end into the wall. This was a long time ago, when I was living with my parents. I'm not completely sure what I used it for, but it may have been to turn my regular radio into an alarm clock.

Maybe his enemies list was really a list of them.
Now that would be interesting, considering who was on the list. :rommie:

They seemed to think it was clever.
"I have a secret compartment. Don't tell anyone!"

For him to teach a course in UFOs. The position would give him some gravitas and would be a way to spread the word, and it would be a channel for him to receive tips about alien activity.

Now looked up. I'm starting to feel like Tom Hanks..."I don't know what that is."
:rommie: The main reason that I know is that Snoopy used to have a Zamboni fixation in Peanuts.

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Oh, man, Xanadu. That's worse than Saturday Night Fever. :rommie:

also part of pop culture are the x men cartoons mutliverse

x men tos then x men 97
x men evolution
wolverine and the x men
I never saw any of those. I think the only X-Men cartoon I ever saw was an unsold pilot adaptation of "Pryde of the X-Men" that came out on VHS back in the 80s.
 


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The Invaders
"The Captive"
Originally aired November 28, 1967
Frndly said:
David must rescue an alien to prevent an incident that could set off World War III.

Wesley J. Sanders (Don Dubbins) burgles into the UN delegation of an unidentified country with collective farms and caviar; accesses a hidden wall safe for documents; and triggers an alarm, resulting in a shootout in which he's felled. Deputy Ambassador Peter Borke (Special Guest Star Fritz Weaver) summons Dr. Katherine Serret (Dana Wynter), who finds no pulse despite Sanders moving; and discovers a bloodless bullet wound. When Sanders revives and is restrained, Dr. Serret declares that he isn't a human being.

The QM Narrator said:
In a confused and divided world, one thing remains certain: A man must earn his daily bread. And so David Vincent takes advantage of a precious lull in his lonely war.

David's actually doing architectural work this week when he's approached by Josef Dansk (Lawrence Dane) to come look at the captured alien. At the delegation, Borke is skeptical of Serret's assertion that the titular being is an extraterrestrial. He questions Sanders, who unconvincingly claims to have been looking to sell the troop disposition documents that he took; is otherwise evasive; asserts his constitutional rights when roughed up; then unsuccessfully struggles to escape while being put in his cell. David argues for Sanders to be put in U.S. government custody, but Borke believes that he's a home-brewed project and has David taken into custody as well, sharing Sanders's basement cell. As Borke listens in, Sanders talks like David's a confederate in American intelligence. After David finds and pulls the wire, Sanders threatens that is he doesn't get out, his people will blow the place up and the U.S. will be blamed.

David brings this info to Serret, seeking to enlist her aid in turning over or freeing the titular being. A pair claiming to be local police detectives (Douglas Henderson and Jock Gaynor, I think) visits Borke specifically looking for Sanders and asking about the burglary. When Borke doesn't want to take them to the basement, they force him down with them at gunpoint. The guards in the basement room shoot them after they enter and they glow up. This motivates Borke to question David about the aliens, though he still plays the angle that Sanders is part of an American biological warfare project. Borke shares with David the great motivational failure of his career--having infiltrated the Manhattan Project in 1944 and reported to his superiors that building an atomic weapon was not possible. He's now wary of making another such misevaluation.

Sanders is X-rayed, revealing the same inhuman internal structure that we saw last week. Borke plays the tape of Sanders's ruse in the cell with David and interrogates Sanders about where he was made; while Sanders continues to talk like an American and implies that he's with the CIA. On his way out of the lab, Sanders grabs an oxygen mask in what David afterward indicates was an attempt to kill himself. David argues to Borke that if Sanders was made in the USA, he wouldn't have been given such a vulnerability. When he's left alone with Serret, David apologetically trusses her up, slips out, and manages to circumvent an electric fence...but finds himself surrounded by plainclothes types bearing their weapons.

After being briefed about developments at the embassy, the head alien, Dorian (Tom Palmer)--not willing to take the chance of waiting nine days until Sanders needs to regenerate--gives David two hours to get Sanders out before they attack the place with a helicopter. David's observed heading to the State Department, where he tries to tell James Royer (Dallas Mitchell) and his partner, Murphy (Robert Patten), about the prisoner, though he's dismissed as a conspiracy cook on that front. That David was held prisoner motivates Royer to call the embassy, who deny the incident. Having a favorable feeling about David, Royers agrees to take David to the embassy, but suffers car trouble. After another vehicle passes, pulls over some ways ahead of them, and its occupants to get out, Royer drops dead while working under the hood. David proceeds to the embassy on foot, overpowering the gate guard (Alex Rodine), who subsequently phones in a warning.

David sneaks into Katherine's lab and informs her of the now-ten-minute deadline before they bomb the place; which is corroborated by a helicopter arriving to hover over the compound. While Dorian assembles a device in the copter, Katherine causes a diversion that gives David a chance to get down to the basement; then fills in Borke about what David has told her, pleading for him to take a stand and do what's right while there's still time. After Borke socks her in defiance, she pulls a gun and forces him to call down for Sanders to be brought up. Once Sanders is out of the cell, David jumps the guards and escorts the alien outside. Borke wrests the gun from Serret and unsuccessfully attempts to stop the copter from picking Sanders up; but when an exchange of fire results in a plant glowing up, Borke becomes a believer and resolves to report this matter to his government.

In the Epilog, Katherine visits David at his temp office to inform him that Borke's flight is long overdue for arrival back home, both believing that they're responsible. David advises Katherine to lay low and arrange alternate means to return home.

The QM Narrator said:
A long and lonely war. And yet, the invaders, seeking to take advantage of the differences between nations, have provided David Vincent with an ally half a world away.

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The Invaders
"The Believers"
Originally aired December 5, 1967
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David is subjected to hypnosis and elaborate ruses in an effort to learn the identities of his new allies.

David meets with three other titular characters in the basement of a San Francisco computer company--including company head Arthur Singeiser (Warren Parker), Charles Ruselli (Richard Karlan), and a woman named Farnham. They take a call from Ed Scoville (Kent Smith), a group leader who has five others with him in a New York boardroom, about coming out to use Singeiser's computers to locate their "galaxy," which could allow their movements to be tracked. Leaving the meeting, the Frisco quartet find themselves spotlighted outside and only David gets away from being machine-gunned down, but is chloroformed in his car--the security guard (Mark Tapscott) having been one of them.

The QM Narrator said:
Finally, it has happened. A group of people have banded together. Believers who have seen, who know what David Vincent knows--that alien beings have found their way here and that they must be destroyed. A group of believers who, by their very nature, become the aliens' chief target for extinction.

David is taken to a secure basement on a campus, where he's revived and questioned by a pair of them--Harland (Donald Davis) and Dr. Torberg (Than Wyenn)--about the identities of his other confederates, who've assembled threatening research about things like weapon systems. Under CTP, David gives six names and locations, but some checking reveals that these individuals are dead, names apparently planted via hypnosis to thwart their interrogation methods. Under orders, a friendly and regretful guard (Hal Baylor) takes David to a room to shoot him, but the sound of gunfire breaks out and gas fills the room from air vents. David overpowers the guard before passing out, and a pair of gas-masked soldiers burst in to extract him.

David comes to in a ward where he's tended to by Lt. Sally Harper (Kathleen Larkin) and greeted by Colonel Newcomb of US Military Intelligence (Byron Morrow), who says that he's a confederate of Singeiser's and talks of needing to get the other believers into protective custody. David doesn't trust them and finds that the nurse doesn't have a pulse, upon which Harland enters and it turns out that David's still in the secure facility. In a cafeteria occupied mainly by uniformed them, David meets a woman in civilian clothes--psychologist Elyse Reynolds (Carol Lynley), who arranges a meeting in the facility's library and warns him of how they captured her to use her research about crowd behavior in an impending scheme to sew panic by causing disasters in major cities. David initially assumes that she's another plant, but she cuts herself and lets him feel her pulse. She helps him get to a storage room with a shaft that leads to an aboveground office, where the pair escapes through a window.

From an airport, David calls Scoville, who arranges to put David and Elyse up in a company suite while he sends two of his group out. David and Elyse are pursued by a pair of them with FINDs, but lose them in a cab. At the suite, Elyse insists on staying with David though he feels she'll be a liability to his work. She elaborates further about how their plan in L.A. involves eliminating key officials and using an earthquake warning to instigate an evacuation. David takes her to see a believer who couldn't make the meeting--wheelchair-bound Professor Hellman (Rhys Williams), who plans to use Elyse's notes to come up with a counterstrategy to the alien scheme. Back at the suite, Elyse tells David of how the teenage brother she was raising was killed in an accident when she was captured three months prior. David then gets a call that Prof. Hellman has died of a heart attack.

David and Elyse proceed to a motel to meet up with Bob and Mary Torin (Anthony Eisley and Maura McGiveney) about coming up with a plan. As the Torins are showing their visitors out, a pair of them open fire with rifles from a distance, killing Mary and wounding Bob. David calls an ambulance and proceeds to escape with Elyse through a back window. Back at the suite, David reports by phone to Scoville, who underscores how the aliens keep finding them and picking them off. David confuses Scoville when he ends the call by referencing a Dr. Jensen. He then sends Elyse out to make contact with Jensen. After a muffled voice on a payphone instructs her to meet Jensen at a closed bus depot, she dials a number. Two of them show up at the depot, calling for Jensen. David steps out of the shadows, and when they draw their weapons, shoots them, causing them to glow up.

When Elyse arrives at the depot late, David confronts her, revealing that he was the voice on the phone and sharing his deduction that the alien plan the group has been concerned about was a sham to help draw his confederates out. She explains that they're holding her brother, but when he presses her, it turns out that she hasn't seen him, and he confronts her with research he did into the car wreck kidnapping showing that he's dead, and thus David's confederates died for nothing, which causes Elyse to break down. A trio of them arrive outside the depot, Harland using his FIND as a bullhorn to call for David's surrender. Elyse comes out and tells Harland how they can get in to David. When Harland and another go in, David's ready for them, shooting them into glowing up.

In the Epilog, David finally takes Elyse to see Scoville's group, where she faces tough questioning about wanting to join, but David backs her.

The QM Narrator said:
There are seven of them now...believers, aware of the presence of alien beings here, determined to destroy them. Perhaps for us, it is the end of the beginning. Perhaps for the invaders, the beginning of the end.

Apparently David getting chloroed isn't as much of a turn-on:



No, it was a manual timer. You would plug something into it and then plug the other end into the wall. This was a long time ago, when I was living with my parents. I'm not completely sure what I used it for, but it may have been to turn my regular radio into an alarm clock.
Interesting...maybe this was just supposed to be the real McCoy. Re. the one in the show, the circle of lights would light up one per second in sequence, while the sweep hand on the right went around once per second.

Now that would be interesting, considering who was on the list. :rommie:
Just wait until their Newman's Own scheme pays off....

For him to teach a course in UFOs. The position would give him some gravitas and would be a way to spread the word, and it would be a channel for him to receive tips about alien activity.
It might also change their strategy for dealing with him.

Oh, man, Xanadu. That's worse than Saturday Night Fever. :rommie:
It had some great music, though--Olivia and ELO. It's been decades since I've watched it, but I'd consider it to be one long-form music video.

I never saw any of those. I think the only X-Men cartoon I ever saw was an unsold pilot adaptation of "Pryde of the X-Men" that came out on VHS back in the 80s.
Well, you just saw that Sub-Mariner episode, didn't you? Possibly the first time that the "new" X-men appeared in a cartoon was Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends...that was a red-letter Saturday morning.
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the UN delegation of an unidentified country with collective farms and caviar
And Chekov's accent. :rommie:

Deputy Ambassador Peter Borke (Special Guest Star Fritz Weaver)
A great character actor who was all over the place in those days.

When Sanders revives and is restrained, Dr. Serret declares that he isn't a human being.
Have we ever seen a Them survive a gunshot wound before? Do Thems have vital organs that need to be hit for them to glow up?

David's actually doing architectural work this week
Now see, if I was trying to save the world from a space alien invasion, I'd find it hard to concentrate on everyday stuff like this.

he's approached by Josef Dansk (Lawrence Dane) to come look at the captured alien.
So Dansk is part of the Russian delegation and he tracks down an American UFO nut for a consult?

He questions Sanders, who unconvincingly claims to have been looking to sell the troop disposition documents that he took; is otherwise evasive; asserts his constitutional rights when roughed up; then unsuccessfully struggles to escape while being put in his cell.
Sanders seems to be doing pretty well after being shot. Apparently Them either glow up or are fine after being wounded. :rommie:

David argues for Sanders to be put in U.S. government custody, but Borke believes that he's a home-brewed project and has David taken into custody as well
So this is the Russian embassy, but they have jail cells where this guy is keeping an intruder that they shot and a random American who was brought in for a consult.

After David finds and pulls the wire, Sanders threatens that is he doesn't get out, his people will blow the place up and the U.S. will be blamed.
What makes this guy so special? Normally they commit suicide if they can't get away?

he still plays the angle that Sanders is part of an American biological warfare project
Hmm. A biological agent where the infected person survives being shot and doesn't bleed-- this is the start of the Zombie Apocalypse!

Borke shares with David the great motivational failure of his career--having infiltrated the Manhattan Project in 1944 and reported to his superiors that building an atomic weapon was not possible.
He's lucky he wasn't vacationing in the tundra after that. Also, the Soviets were working on their own bomb long before that.

Sanders is X-rayed, revealing the same inhuman internal structure that we saw last week.
I'm glad they're getting good use out of that X-ray. The copay was pretty high.

On his way out of the lab, Sanders grabs an oxygen mask in what David afterward indicates was an attempt to kill himself.
I'm so confused. :rommie:

When he's left alone with Serret, David apologetically trusses her up
"I'm sorry I don't have time for the bucket of ice water."

the head alien, Dorian (Tom Palmer)--not willing to take the chance of waiting nine days until Sanders needs to regenerate--gives David two hours to get Sanders out before they attack the place with a helicopter.
Okay, normally Thems are extremely expendable and usually suicidal, but this one, after failing to obtain what I assume were random MacGuffin documents, and despite making a half-hearted attempt to destroy himself, is worth blowing up the Russian embassy, which would also kill Sanders, and risking the type of international incident that They had previously decided was counterproductive to their plans.

That David was held prisoner motivates Royer to call the embassy, who deny the incident.
"In my experience, Russians never lie."

Having a favorable feeling about David, Royers agrees to take David to the embassy
Interesting.

Royer drops dead while working under the hood.
"Hello, AAA?"

David sneaks into Katherine's lab and informs her of the now-ten-minute deadline before they bomb the place; which is corroborated by a helicopter arriving to hover over the compound.
American authorities certainly would take no notice of that.

While Dorian assembles a device in the copter
I get the impression this guy is a last-minute planner.

After Borke socks her in defiance, she pulls a gun and forces him to call down for Sanders to be brought up.
Russian women are tough!

an exchange of fire results in a plant glowing up
Wait, what? The plant was a Them in plant form? That's weird enough on its own, but what was it there for? What could it accomplish? Would it glow up if it wasn't watered regularly? Was it sitting there thinking, "Gee, I wish I could help Sanders but I'm just a plant?" That's really bizarre.

In the Epilog, Katherine visits David at his temp office to inform him that Borke's flight is long overdue for arrival back home, both believing that they're responsible.
I wonder if Putin is a Them. It would kind of make sense. More sense than anything in this episode made. :rommie:

David meets with three other titular characters in the basement of a San Francisco computer company
Hmm. Maybe Google is a front for Them.

coming out to use Singeiser's computers to locate their "galaxy,"
I always get a kick out of "Science Fiction" shows that have no grasp of scientific terminology or concepts. :rommie:

the Frisco quartet find themselves spotlighted outside and only David gets away from being machine-gunned down, but is chloroformed in his car
I know he's protected by plot armor, but they really should avoid situations that draw attention to it. :rommie:

Under CTP, David gives six names and locations, but some checking reveals that these individuals are dead, names apparently planted via hypnosis to thwart their interrogation methods.
Hah! Take that, Them! Nice twist.

a friendly and regretful guard (Hal Baylor) takes David to a room to shoot him
"Sorry, man, I'm just following space alien orders."

David doesn't trust them and finds that the nurse doesn't have a pulse, upon which Harland enters and it turns out that David's still in the secure facility.
A nice little Prisoner vibe there.

psychologist Elyse Reynolds (Carol Lynley)
Another ubiquitous character actor.

captured her to use her research about crowd behavior in an impending scheme to sew panic by causing disasters in major cities.
I don't think a lot of research is needed to do that.

She helps him get to a storage room with a shaft that leads to an aboveground office, where the pair escapes through a window.
But David is not suspicious at all at the ease of their escape.

Elyse insists on staying with David though he feels she'll be a liability to his work.
"I have to get these floor plans done by Tuesday."

David then gets a call that Prof. Hellman has died of a heart attack.
Everybody dies but David.

David reports by phone to Scoville, who underscores how the aliens keep finding them and picking them off.
"Except you, David. What's so special about you?"

When Elyse arrives at the depot late, David confronts her, revealing that he was the voice on the phone
Lots of mind games in this one.

She explains that they're holding her brother, but when he presses her, it turns out that she hasn't seen him, and he confronts her with research he did into the car wreck kidnapping showing that he's dead, and thus David's confederates died for nothing, which causes Elyse to break down.
She already said he was dead, so she must have known all along, but just couldn't give up hope.

Elyse comes out and tells Harland how they can get in to David. When Harland and another go in, David's ready for them, shooting them into glowing up.
And the tables are turned again. This was a much better episode than the previous one.

In the Epilog, David finally takes Elyse to see Scoville's group, where she faces tough questioning about wanting to join, but David backs her.
So is Scoville going to be a recurring character now?

Apparently David getting chloroed isn't as much of a turn-on:
That hardly seems fair. :rommie:

Interesting...maybe this was just supposed to be the real McCoy. Re. the one in the show, the circle of lights would light up one per second in sequence, while the sweep hand on the right went around once per second.
I remember it being something like that, yeah.

Just wait until their Newman's Own scheme pays off....
Okay, I know Paul Newman was on the list and I know what Newman's Own is, but I think I'm missing something. Distributing mind-control drugs in the salad dressing or something? :rommie:

It might also change their strategy for dealing with him.
That's true.

It had some great music, though--Olivia and ELO. It's been decades since I've watched it, but I'd consider it to be one long-form music video.
I think I do remember thinking the ELO song was okay.

Well, you just saw that Sub-Mariner episode, didn't you?
Yeah, just a little late. :rommie:

Possibly the first time that the "new" X-men appeared in a cartoon was Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends...that was a red-letter Saturday morning.
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That's another show I never saw.
 


70 Years Ago This Month (Part 1)

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July
  • Harry and Albert Warner sell their stock in Warner Bros. Jack L. Warner retains his and becomes president.
  • In the 29th issue of Mad Magazine (cover dated Sept.), a gap-toothed character who'd previously appeared as a tiny face on the cover of issue 21 in March is given the name Alfred E. Neuman.

July 1
  • Elvis Presley appears on The Steve Allen Show.
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July 2
  • A laboratory experiment at Sylvania Electric Products in Bayside, New York, results in an explosion, injuring nine workers, one of whom later dies of thorium poisoning.

July 3
  • Showcase #4 (National Periodical Publications; cover dated Oct.): The first appearance of a revamped Flash ushers in the Silver Age of Comic Books.



:beer: Happy 70th, Barry! :beer:

(I haven't been keeping up, but it appears that he's alive again in the current comics continuity.)



July 4
  • Hurricane Anna forms in the Gulf of Mexico. In the course of a week, it causes damage in the US states of Florida and Alabama, but there are no associated fatalities.
  • The first flight of the U-2 spy plane over the Soviet Union is made by the Central Intelligence Agency from Wiesbaden in West Germany.

July 5
  • The United States launches an Aerobee rocket, RTV-N-10c, from White Sands Missile Range on a sub-orbital aeronomy mission.

July 6
  • Vice President Richard Nixon visits South Vietnam, where he addresses the Vietnamese constituent assembly, saying that "the march of Communism has been halted".



Charting the week of July 7:

"Fever," Little Willie John
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(#24 US; #1 R&B)

"Rip It Up," Little Richard
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(#17 US; #1 R&B; #30 UK)

"Ready Teddy," Little Richard
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(B-side of "Rip It Up"; #44 US; #8 R&B)

"My Prayer," The Platters
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(#1 US the weeks of Aug. 4 and 11 [Best Sellers in Stores], Aug. 18 through Sept. 1 [Most Played by Jockeys], and Aug. 25 [Most Played in Jukeboxes], 1956; #1 R&B; #4 UK)



July 9
  • Born: Tom Hanks, US actor and director, in Concord, California



I'm sorry, I don't know who that is. :confused:



July 11
  • Born: Sela Ward, American actress, in Meridian, Mississippi



A great character actor who was all over the place in those days.
And apparently popular with the QM crew. In addition to roles on other shows, he turned up as a Nazi on 12OCH.

Have we ever seen a Them survive a gunshot wound before? Do Thems have vital organs that need to be hit for them to glow up?
Probably not, and good question. I think we may have seen one of them declared dead only to bounce back, though.

Now see, if I was trying to save the world from a space alien invasion, I'd find it hard to concentrate on everyday stuff like this.
At least we see that he still needs to earn money to fund his crusade. I wonder if he's on Scoville's payroll afterward....

So Dansk is part of the Russian delegation and he tracks down an American UFO nut for a consult?
Yep. They were in America, and he was available.

So this is the Russian embassy, but they have jail cells where this guy is keeping an intruder that they shot and a random American who was brought in for a consult.
At this point the Ambiguous Russians were just trying to keep David from going to the authorities.

What makes this guy so special? Normally they commit suicide if they can't get away?
He did try when he had the opportunity. Their motivation here was that only one of them being taken alive could blow the whole invasion wide open.

He's lucky he wasn't vacationing in the tundra after that. Also, the Soviets were working on their own bomb long before that.
Interesting, I didn't know that.

I'm so confused. :rommie:
Recall that they're vulnerable to Earth's oxygen, which is what makes them glow up. David asserted here that sucking in pure oxygen would have done the trick.

Okay, normally Thems are extremely expendable and usually suicidal, but this one, after failing to obtain what I assume were random MacGuffin documents, and despite making a half-hearted attempt to destroy himself, is worth blowing up the Russian embassy, which would also kill Sanders, and risking the type of international incident that They had previously decided was counterproductive to their plans.
In this case, they were counting on the U.S. being blamed for the attack.

I get the impression this guy is a last-minute planner.
He was being played as confident and methodical.

Wait, what? The plant was a Them in plant form? That's weird enough on its own, but what was it there for? What could it accomplish? Would it glow up if it wasn't watered regularly? Was it sitting there thinking, "Gee, I wish I could help Sanders but I'm just a plant?" That's really bizarre.
:guffaw: No, it was an ordinary plant, which was shot by one of their ray guns, which conveniently produce the same effect as they suffer when killed by other means. Seeing this opened Borke's eyes.

In subsequent episodes, even uniformed them are more commonly seen sporting Five-O Specials, which are less likely to out them if used in public.

I wonder if Putin is a Them. It would kind of make sense. More sense than anything in this episode made. :rommie:
Hopefully a little of that has been clarified.

I always get a kick out of "Science Fiction" shows that have no grasp of scientific terminology or concepts. :rommie:
Yeah, the show always refers to them coming from another galaxy (including in the opening credits), and it always comes off like they mean another star system.

"Sorry, man, I'm just following space alien orders."
He was one of them, but an unusually friendly one, showing that they're not all on the same page.

A nice little Prisoner vibe there.
Which was happening about the same time, IIRC.

But David is not suspicious at all at the ease of their escape.
"Easy? You call that easy?"
"They're tracking us."
"Not this ship, sister."

"I have to get these floor plans done by Tuesday."
No longer his true calling. :p

Everybody dies but David.
And Scoville, going forward.

"Except you, David. What's so special about you?"
"You'll see."

Lots of mind games in this one.
I'm tempted to queue a John single that I never liked that much.

She already said he was dead, so she must have known all along, but just couldn't give up hope.
For her, saying that he died in the accident was just part of her cover, but she learned from David that it was the truth.

And the tables are turned again.
This whole sequence had a pretty Bondian vibe.

This was a much better episode than the previous one.
At this point, the episodes I'm covering will be coming up on MeTV soon if you want to catch any of them.

So is Scoville going to be a recurring character now?
In the opening credits of every subsequent episode so far.

I remember it being something like that, yeah.
Very interesting. Maybe it was one of those real-world items that seemed so futuristic at the time that they used it as a prop in a sci-fi show. Trek had examples of that.

Okay, I know Paul Newman was on the list and I know what Newman's Own is, but I think I'm missing something. Distributing mind-control drugs in the salad dressing or something? :rommie:
Just joking that the line of food products (which also includes pizzas and whatnot) might play a sinister purpose in their scheme.

That's true.
Oddly, I think they find it easier to let him live as a lone kook. If he were in a stable, authoritative position, they might have to risk scheming to eliminate him. They knock off college professors left and right.

That's another show I never saw.
The basic premise of the show was hokey (Spidey, Iceman, and Firestar shared an apartment that transformed into a computer-equipped super-hero HQ), but it guested several other Marvel characters, who were generally adapted more authentically, which I enjoyed at the time.
 
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Quite a momentous time for comics-- EC was just dying and superheroes were being reborn.

In the 29th issue of Mad Magazine (cover dated Sept.), a gap-toothed character who'd previously appeared as a tiny face on the cover of issue 21 in March is given the name Alfred E. Neuman.
Talk about starting in the mail room. :rommie:

Elvis Presley appears on The Steve Allen Show.
It's always so weird to think of Elvis getting his start on mainstream shows like these.

Showcase #4 (National Periodical Publications; cover dated Oct.): The first appearance of a revamped Flash ushers in the Silver Age of Comic Books.
And what an age it will be.

:beer: Happy 70th, Barry! :beer:
Happy 70th, Barry. Sit down and have a piece of... wait, where'd he go?

(I haven't been keeping up, but it appears that he's alive again in the current comics continuity.)
The Afterlife is like a second home to these guys.

The first flight of the U-2 spy plane over the Soviet Union is made by the Central Intelligence Agency from Wiesbaden in West Germany.
"Calling home base. We still haven't found what we're looking for. Over."

The United States launches an Aerobee rocket, RTV-N-10c, from White Sands Missile Range on a sub-orbital aeronomy mission.
Getting close!

Vice President Richard Nixon visits South Vietnam, where he addresses the Vietnamese constituent assembly, saying that "the march of Communism has been halted".
Mission accomplished!

"Fever," Little Willie John
This is a good one whoever does it. I wouldn't want that nickname, though. :rommie:

"Rip It Up," Little Richard

"Ready Teddy," Little Richard
I know both of these. You can't go wrong with Little Richard.

"My Prayer," The Platters
I know this one too. It's okay.

I'm sorry, I don't know who that is. :confused:
:rommie: I do. He's one of a handful of celebrities that I've been compared to, at least when he was on Bosom Buddies.

And apparently popular with the QM crew. In addition to roles on other shows, he turned up as a Nazi on 12OCH.
He's well suited to playing authoritarian bad guys.

Probably not, and good question. I think we may have seen one of them declared dead only to bounce back, though.
Yeah, I remember that. I think it had to do with the pulse thing.

At least we see that he still needs to earn money to fund his crusade. I wonder if he's on Scoville's payroll afterward....
That would be good. Or not, if he has to submit receipts.

At this point the Ambiguous Russians were just trying to keep David from going to the authorities.
Kind of risking an international incident.

He did try when he had the opportunity. Their motivation here was that only one of them being taken alive could blow the whole invasion wide open.
That struck me as a pretty half-hearted attempt. These guys are usually pretty good at killing themselves.

Interesting, I didn't know that.
Yeah, the Soviets, the Germans, and the Japanese. The Germans were getting pretty close, too, and I think the Japanese just had trouble getting their hands on the right kind of Uranium.

Recall that they're vulnerable to Earth's oxygen, which is what makes them glow up. David asserted here that sucking in pure oxygen would have done the trick.
Okay, I forgot about the oxygen angle.

In this case, they were counting on the U.S. being blamed for the attack.
I doubt if the Soviets would have started a war over that. It would have been worth a lot of propaganda at the UN about how incompetent the decadent West is.

:guffaw: No, it was an ordinary plant, which was shot by one of their ray guns, which conveniently produce the same effect as they suffer when killed by other means. Seeing this opened Borke's eyes.
Oh, oops. I guess I misunderstood that bit a little. :rommie:

In subsequent episodes, even uniformed them are more commonly seen sporting Five-O Specials, which are less likely to out them if used in public.
And they're in a universe where you can take a shot at somebody and get sent home to sober up. :rommie:

Hopefully a little of that has been clarified.
Yeah, but still not the best episode.

Yeah, the show always refers to them coming from another galaxy (including in the opening credits), and it always comes off like they mean another star system.
It happened all the time. Luckily it was something that Star Trek did pretty good with.

He was one of them, but an unusually friendly one, showing that they're not all on the same page.
Which is good, but makes me wonder how the friendly ones make the cut to get sent to Earth.

Which was happening about the same time, IIRC.
Yeah, that kind of mind-game plotting was popular around then.

"Easy? You call that easy?"
"They're tracking us."
"Not this ship, sister."
I originally typed that I didn't get it, but then it clicked on my final read through. :rommie:

No longer his true calling. :p
You never know where life will take you. :rommie:

And Scoville, going forward.
Interesting.

I'm tempted to queue a John single that I never liked that much.
I know the one you mean. Not his best.

At this point, the episodes I'm covering will be coming up on MeTV soon if you want to catch any of them.
I'm not sure. We've got a bunch of other stuff recorded.

In the opening credits of every subsequent episode so far.
Nice.

Very interesting. Maybe it was one of those real-world items that seemed so futuristic at the time that they used it as a prop in a sci-fi show. Trek had examples of that.
TOS was good at stretching their budget that way. I remember reading in The Making of Star Trek that some of McCoy's devices were exotic salt and pepper shakers that the prop guy bought and repainted. :rommie:

Just joking that the line of food products (which also includes pizzas and whatnot) might play a sinister purpose in their scheme.
That would be a good plan. It would be difficult to thwart.

Oddly, I think they find it easier to let him live as a lone kook. If he were in a stable, authoritative position, they might have to risk scheming to eliminate him. They knock off college professors left and right.
Indeed, they usually have no trouble killing people.

The basic premise of the show was hokey (Spidey, Iceman, and Firestar shared an apartment that transformed into a computer-equipped super-hero HQ), but it guested several other Marvel characters, who were generally adapted more authentically, which I enjoyed at the time.
I wonder who funded that that high-tech HQ. :rommie:
 


50 Years Ago This Week



July 4
  • The United States celebrated its Bicentennial, in recognition of the 200th anniversary of the July 4, 1776, adoption of the Declaration of Independence from Great Britain.
  • A rescue mission at the Entebbe Airport in Uganda ended successfully as airplanes landed safely in Israel with 102 of the remaining 106 hostages from Air France Flight 139, which had been hijacked a week earlier on June 27. A 29-man assault team from the Israel Defense Forces Sayeret Matkal special forces unit, led by Lieutenant Colonel Yonatan Netanyahu, landed at Entebbe on Saturday night at 11:00 pm local time, flew out 53 minutes later, and landed in Nairobi, Kenya. Along with three of the hostages at Entebbe, all seven of the hijackers, at least 33 Ugandan Army soldiers, and Lt. Col. Netanyahu—whose younger brother Benjamin would become Prime Minister of Israel almost 20 years later—were killed in the raid. The raiding team arrived in three C-130 transport airplanes. Among the ruses used by the Israelis were to transport a Mercedes limousine and two Land-Rover jeeps by cargo plane to Entebbe, where an agent in a Ugandan Army uniform impersonated President Idi Amin and was accompanied by faux bodyguards.

July 5
  • Adolfo Suárez was sworn in as the new Prime Minister of Spain after his appointment by King Juan Carlos I to work toward political reform.

July 6
  • Soyuz 21 was launched into orbit by the Soviet Union, carrying cosmonauts Boris Volynov and Vitaly Zholobov to the new Salyut 5 space station. The two spacefarers showed the interior of the station on live television to viewers in the U.S.S.R. and Eastern Europe two days after arriving on a mission that appeared to be planned to last at least 54 days. Volynov and Zholobov would depart Salyut 5 on August 24, earlier than planned, because of Zholobov's illness from "an acrid odor that developed in the environmental control system."
  • Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom began a "Bicentennial tour" of several locations in the former 13 British colonies that had become the nucleus of the United States, arriving in Philadelphia on the 412 foot royal yacht Britannia, where she was greeted by a crowd of 5,000 people. In an address to Americans, she began "I speak to you as the direct descendant of King George III. He was the last crowned sovereign to rule in this country," and added "It seems to me that Independence Day, the Fourth of July, should be celebrated as much in Britain as in America...in sincere gratitude to the Founding Fathers of the great Republic for having taught Britain a very valuable lesson. We lost the American colonies because we lacked that statesmanship 'to know the right time and the manner of yielding what is impossible to keep.'" She followed with stops at the White House in Washington, DC, New York City, Charlottesville, Virginia, and Providence and Newport, Rhode Island.

July 8
  • Palapa-A1, the first satellite built in Indonesia, was launched from Cape Canaveral in the United States at 6:31 pm local time as a communications satellite for the corporation Indosat.
  • Former U.S. President Richard M. Nixon, who had resigned from office on August 9, 1974, in the wake of accusations of interfering with investigation of the Watergate scandal, became the first former president to be disbarred from the practice of law. The 4 to 1 opinion of the New York state court's appellate division concluded that Nixon had obstructed "the due administration of justice," a violation of the state Code of Professional Responsibility for lawyers. The findings on the charges, brought by the New York City bar association, marked the first time that Nixon had ever "been found guilty by an official body of charges relating to Watergate."

July 9
  • American reporters and civilian officials were allowed for the first time to see the U.S. Department of Defense's National Military Command Center, the "war room" located inside the Pentagon, normally restricted to individuals holding a top-secret clearance or higher.

July 10
  • Four foreign mercenary soldiers, one American and three British, were executed by firing squad in Angola following their trial in Luanda. Daniel Gearhart of Kensington, Maryland, had quit a low-paying job at the U.S. National Institutes of Health five months earlier after having advertised his services in Soldier of Fortune magazine, and left behind a wife and four children. He had been captured only four days after arriving in Angola. Costas Georgiou, a native of Cyprus and British Army veteran who called himself "Colonel Tony Callan," died along with Britons John Derek Barker and Andrew McKenzie. Angolan president Agostinho Neto rejected pleas for clemency and commented, "Every Angolan remembers the vile and cruel behavior of the mercenaries who have sown death and despair in African countries in return for pay, trying in this way to put a brake on the higher interests of a people for a few coins."



Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Afternoon Delight," Starland Vocal Band
2. "Kiss and Say Goodbye," The Manhattans
3. "I'll Be Good to You," The Brothers Johnson
4. "Shop Around," Captain & Tennille
5. "More More More, Pt. 1," Andrea True Connection
6. "Silly Love Songs," Wings
7. "Misty Blue," Dorothy Moore
8. "Love Is Alive," Gary Wright
9. "Sara Smile," Daryl Hall & John Oates
10. "Got to Get You into My Life," The Beatles
11. "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again," Eric Carmen
12. "Let Her In," John Travolta
13. "Moonlight Feels Right," Starbuck
14. "Take the Money and Run," Steve Miller Band
15. "Rock and Roll Music," The Beach Boys
16. "The Boys Are Back in Town," Thin Lizzy
17. "If You Know What I Mean," Neil Diamond
18. "Get Closer," Seals & Crofts (feat. Carolyn Willis)
19. "Get Up and Boogie (That's Right)," Silver Convention
20. "You're My Best Friend," Queen
21. "Love Hangover," Diana Ross
22. "Turn the Beat Around," Vicki Sue Robinson
23. "Today's the Day," America
24. "Tear the Roof Off the Sucker (Give Up the Funk)," Parliament
25. "Making Our Dreams Come True," Cyndi Grecco
26. "I'm Easy," Keith Carradine
27. "Save Your Kisses for Me," Brotherhood of Man
28. "Last Child," Aerosmith
29. "I Need to Be in Love," Carpenters
30. "Young Hearts Run Free," Candi Staton

32. "Mamma Mia," ABBA

35. "Something He Can Feel," Aretha Franklin
36. "A Fifth of Beethoven," Walter Murphy & The Big Apple Band
37. "You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine," Lou Rawls

40. "I'd Really Love to See You Tonight," England Dan & John Ford Coley

43. "Let 'em In," Wings
44. "This Masquerade," George Benson

46. "Don't Go Breaking My Heart," Elton John & Kiki Dee

48. "Baby, I Love Your Way," Peter Frampton
49. "Takin' It to the Streets," The Doobie Brothers

51. "You Should Be Dancing," Bee Gees

53. "Hot Stuff" / "Fool to Cry," The Rolling Stones

55. "I Want You," Marvin Gaye
56. "It Keeps You Runnin'," Carly Simon

58. "A Little Bit More," Dr. Hook
59. "Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel," Tavares

61. "Who'd She Coo?," Ohio Players

63. "Say You Love Me," Fleetwood Mac
64. "Movin'," Brass Construction

70. "Lowdown," Boz Scaggs

73. "Shower the People," James Taylor
74. "Wham Bam Shang-a-Lang," Silver

76. "Crazy on You," Heart
77. "Devil Woman," Cliff Richard
78. "Play That Funky Music," Wild Cherry
79. "(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty," KC & The Sunshine Band
80. "Summer," War


82. "I Never Cry," Alice Cooper

100. "Shannon," Henry Gross

Leaving the chart:
  • "Baretta's Theme (Keep Your Eye on the Sparrow)," Rhythm Heritage (13 weeks)
  • "Boogie Fever," The Sylvers (21 weeks)
  • "Happy Days," Pratt & McClain w/ Brother Love (14 weeks)
  • "Rhiannon (Will You Ever Win)," Fleetwood Mac (18 weeks)

Recent and new on the chart:

"Shower the People," James Taylor
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(July 3; #22 US; #1 AC)

"I Never Cry," Alice Cooper
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(July 3; #12 US; #24 AC)

"Say You Love Me," Fleetwood Mac
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(July 3; #11 US; #12 AC; #40 UK)

"Summer," War
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(#7 US; #1 AC; #4 R&B)

"(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty," KC & The Sunshine Band
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(#1 US the week of Sept. 11, 1976; #1 R&B; #22 UK)



Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month, with editing as needed.



It's always so weird to think of Elvis getting his start on mainstream shows like these.
Any funnier than the Beatles on Sullivan? These shows were the venue for musicians to get on TV at the time.

The interesting thing I caught here is that they said "Hound Dog" was being recorded the next day. That confirms an impression I had, given the timing, that "Hound Dog" was released as a single because of the buzz generated by Elvis's performance on Milton Berle.

Happy 70th, Barry. Sit down and have a piece of... wait, where'd he go?
"Sorry, Captain Cold was robbing a jewelry store."

"Calling home base. We still haven't found what we're looking for. Over."
Not Bono:
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Mission accomplished!
I'm Bushed.

This is a good one whoever does it. I wouldn't want that nickname, though. :rommie:
Apparently Peggy Lee's 1958 version will become the best-known.

I know both of these. You can't go wrong with Little Richard.
Pat Boone manages to. :p In this case, I feel like the B-side was the stronger one.

I know this one too. It's okay.
Not up there with their more memorable hits despite its performance.

:rommie: I do. He's one of a handful of celebrities that I've been compared to, at least when he was on Bosom Buddies.
I found it interesting that he and Sela were born so close together. They played a couple in 1986's Nothing in Common, which was Jackie Gleason's final role.

Yeah, I remember that. I think it had to do with the pulse thing.
Yeah, that makes it easy to be prematurely declared dead.

That struck me as a pretty half-hearted attempt. These guys are usually pretty good at killing themselves.
But he was being held prisoner and under guard. They should probably keep compressed oxygen tablets in their teeth or something.

Yeah, the Soviets, the Germans, and the Japanese. The Germans were getting pretty close, too, and I think the Japanese just had trouble getting their hands on the right kind of Uranium.
I knew about the other two generally.

I doubt if the Soviets would have started a war over that. It would have been worth a lot of propaganda at the UN about how incompetent the decadent West is.
But the bottom line for them was that there was a more likely party to take the blame than space aliens.

Oh, oops. I guess I misunderstood that bit a little. :rommie:
Funnily enough, I saw that there was some ambiguity there, but figured you'd remember their ray guns.

It happened all the time. Luckily it was something that Star Trek did pretty good with.
But their ambiguous use of "quadrant" still haunts literal-minded Trek fandom.

Which is good, but makes me wonder how the friendly ones make the cut to get sent to Earth.
Maybe it's something that develops as they assume human roles and interact with people. This guy might've been pulled back to HQ because he was too sympathetic.

I originally typed that I didn't get it, but then it clicked on my final read through. :rommie:
I thought that one might be challenging for you. Whereas I accurately quote it from memory.

Interesting.
As for other guest-starring Believers...
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TOS was good at stretching their budget that way. I remember reading in The Making of Star Trek that some of McCoy's devices were exotic salt and pepper shakers that the prop guy bought and repainted. :rommie:
McCoy's surgical instruments would be the go-to example, but there were plenty more that I only vaguely recall reading of in the TOS forum years back.

I wonder who funded that that high-tech HQ. :rommie:
What's more, I think it was in Aunt May's house; or at least I seem to recall that she was around.
 
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