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Spoilers The Boys Season 4 Discussion ( Spoilers)

This week's episode finally got things really, really going again, and I liked it more than the last two episodes. I didn't like how easily Black Noir was dispatched, and by who, because that person has been turned into a joke character. I should've known the writing was on the wall with how easily Starlight handled Black Noir in this season's first episode. I also don't like the softening of Clara, like the writers want to give us this sympathetic love story between her and Soldier Boy. Clara was an unrepentant Nazi and I don't think this is the way to go. Soldier Boy's racism is largely shown in his quips, but Ackles delivers them with a gruff charm and has a typical offending attitude towards just about everyone. But if they want to couple his prejudices with Clara's rawer racism, I am less enthused about seeing more of this on Vought Rising.

Speaking of Vought Rising, setting up the prequel has swamped this final season. I don't think they needed to go so hard to sell that show. Knowing Soldier Boy (and even Stormfront) were on it would be enough for many Boys fans to want to see it.

The things I did like about the episode:
-Homelander taking the V. Wasn't expecting him to get it, much less to take it. I'm glad for once the writers didn't dawdle there.
-The Legend. I also really liked his talk with Homelander and how Homelander let him go. If Firecracker had just kept it pushing like he did, she might still be around. I also liked the Legend's interaction with MM.
-Oh Father vs. Starlight fight: Wasn't expecting this one, and I had been curious to see what Oh Father could do in action. I also liked that Starlight and Oh Father had been friends before. It gave the fight more dimension.
-Sage's turn. I liked that it finally happened, and also that she was surprised that not everything happened the way she had planned it.
-Kimiko's fangirling was also unexpected. I also liked how Golden Geisha's refusal to take the V was used to bolster Kimiko's and Annie's decisions.
-Ashley's physical comedy. She did a good job with that.
 
The last two episodes have been good. Last week's episode felt like a return to form, like something from season 1 or 2. This week's episode progressed things nicely. But I still feel there is a lot left to wrap up in the two episodes remaining.
 
This week's episode finally got things really, really going again, and I liked it more than the last two episodes. I didn't like how easily Black Noir was dispatched, and by who, because that person has been turned into a joke character. I should've known the writing was on the wall with how easily Starlight handled Black Noir in this season's first episode. I also don't like the softening of Clara, like the writers want to give us this sympathetic love story between her and Soldier Boy. Clara was an unrepentant Nazi and I don't think this is the way to go. Soldier Boy's racism is largely shown in his quips, but Ackles delivers them with a gruff charm and has a typical offending attitude towards just about everyone. But if they want to couple his prejudices with Clara's rawer racism, I am less enthused about seeing more of this on Vought Rising.

Speaking of Vought Rising, setting up the prequel has swamped this final season. I don't think they needed to go so hard to sell that show. Knowing Soldier Boy (and even Stormfront) were on it would be enough for many Boys fans to want to see it.

The things I did like about the episode:
-Homelander taking the V. Wasn't expecting him to get it, much less to take it. I'm glad for once the writers didn't dawdle there.
-The Legend. I also really liked his talk with Homelander and how Homelander let him go. If Firecracker had just kept it pushing like he did, she might still be around. I also liked the Legend's interaction with MM.
-Oh Father vs. Starlight fight: Wasn't expecting this one, and I had been curious to see what Oh Father could do in action. I also liked that Starlight and Oh Father had been friends before. It gave the fight more dimension.
-Sage's turn. I liked that it finally happened, and also that she was surprised that not everything happened the way she had planned it.
-Kimiko's fangirling was also unexpected. I also liked how Golden Geisha's refusal to take the V was used to bolster Kimiko's and Annie's decisions.
-Ashley's physical comedy. She did a good job with that.
Agree 100%. I was actually typing out that as a post before seeing your message.

I feel like too much of the final season the Boys has been spent trying to build up interest in the prequel and past of Soldier Boy/Stormfront and now introducing Bombsight.

I think Vought Rising would have been ok as a prequel one-off movie between S3 and S4 or S4 and S5... but using the final season and plotlines of the Boys because they want to try to increase interest in something they want to sell to continue the 'franchise' has been an irritating thing to me.
 
The budget and fight scenes are alright for a capesh-t TV show, but restrictive if you're expecting a movie budget (though Butcher's powers and darker agenda took more of a backseat next to Homelander seeking true god hood during the course of this season).
 
I have been enjoying the entire season. Way better than last season. I do got to admit The Boys themselves have kind of become the least interesting part of the show. All the good stuff these days is coming from the The Supes.

I mean I guess it's sort of always been that way. But it seems their is just to many scenes of them hanging out in their hideout looking for a Supes disease and also cure.
 
I am really digging Daveed Diggs's character, (Pardon the Pun) . Oh Father is my current favorite villain. A believer who changed Gods.

Daveed usually plays protagonist but to see him as an antagonist is really interesting. However he did play as Thomas Jefferson who was antagonistic towards Alexander Hamilton in the play Hamilton.

Looking forward to seeing how Daveed Diggs's character gets his comeuppance at the hands of the Boys.
 
I could see him actually being the new leader of The Seven but never being able to go out to the sea anymore because the sea life would kill him. He basically becomes a figurehead as Vought transitions away from Supes. Like President Ashley they really are just powerless "leaders" in a new system were the Corporation is the true power behind everything from the government to the Supes.
 
I could see him actually being the new leader of The Seven but never being able to go out to the sea anymore because the sea life would kill him. He basically becomes a figurehead as Vought transitions away from Supes. Like President Ashley they really are just powerless "leaders" in a new system were the Corporation is the true power behind everything from the government to the Supes.
Or Vought International likely crashes and burns with Homelander (I'm starting to think death is too good for him; his immortality and near invincibility becomes his tomb and punishment, with ultimate fate being a god's equivalent of the "Bad Room").
 
Or Vought International likely crashes and burns with Homelander (I'm starting to think death is too good for him; his immortality and near invincibility becomes his tomb and punishment, with ultimate fate being a god's equivalent of the "Bad Room").

That I think would be to happy of a ending. Corporations are bigger than even the Supes. I think that might be the overall message they are going for. It is commentary on systemic injustice. Which is bigger than even a tyrant in Homelander.

Some of the individuals might get something of a happy ending or a fitting punishment but the system itself keeps going on and on.
 
I feel like too much of the final season the Boys has been spent trying to build up interest in the prequel and past of Soldier Boy/Stormfront and now introducing Bombsight.
I kind of wonder if the various Boys spinoffs will end up as quickly-forgotten niche afterthoughts, kind of like how "the Walking Dead" was watercooler television and now people barely remember the sequels, spinoffs and prequels exist(ed).
 
Gen V likely will. Lasted only two seasons. The young people are very much of now and that doesn't age well. Most shows directed at young people are to contemporary in ways that don't stand up to repeat viewing. Things like Freaks and Geeks,Buffy, My So Called Life tend to be the exception.

Vought Rising might. It stars a very popular character in Soldier Boy. The show set in Mexico could as well but we need to know more information. If it is about immigration then that tends to be a timeless subject matter so I think if that is explored it could hold up. It will need at least one character that matches the popularity of Solider Boy or Homelander. In the end I think great characters always hold up.

Problem with the Walking Dead spin-off beyond the first one showing the collapse of society to fast is they didn't have memorable enough characters or like in the recent ones you have memorable and already established characters but their stories have already been told and were on OG Walking Dead for years and years.
 
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I liked Bomb Sight. He seems to be more moral than soldier boy but no one seems to have intact morality in this universe. But let's hope hes the conscience for Soldier Boy in the prequel show like Hughie was for Butcher. I hope hes good. We'll see.
 
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I am subscribed to Netflix, Prime Video, Disney+, and HBO Max. Netflix has recently reduced content where the main theme is LGBT. Prime Video almost never produces LGBT-themed content, or if it does, it doesn’t release it in countries like Turkey. The same situation applies to Disney+ and HBO Max as well.

Im guessing they are trying to produce what sells. Views ratings unfortunately still matter even though a great deal of their revenue comes from subs. But advertisers are still a source of income and they want that as well. So the more popular a show the more money they can charge to advertisers.
 
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Anyone else feel like this show isn't as good and was never as good as you originally thought? R-rated show about what superheroes would be like in the real world, awesome! But there is a large emphasis on gross-out humor and some of the things they make fun of they do just for the sake of it (like Firecracker doing Nicole Kidman's AMC commercial). And so much wheel-spinning and nerfing the supes when the good guys need a win.
 
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