The Borg, explain to me

[Delta Vega]

Who were they originally before they started to Assimilate other life forms ?
They must have origins and reasons for their behaviour.

Also, by assimilating all that they encounter, surely this must be as near to unbeatable as possible, yet somehow Picard, Janeway et al have frequent victories over them.

I am puzzled


One of Five

 

[BillJ]

Who were they originally before they started to Assimilate other life forms ?
They must have origins and reasons for their behavior.

Nothing in canon about their origins. The Destiny trilogy from Pocket Books gives them a non-canon origin.

 

[Satyrquaze]

Also, by assimilating all that they encounter, surely this must be as near to unbeatable as possible, yet somehow Picard, Janeway et al have frequent victories over them.

I am puzzled


One of Five

The weapon most frequently used to defeat the Borg is an ancient object called "The Plot Device" (see also: 'Deus Ex Machina' or 'Chekhov's Gun'. ((Not to be confused with 'Chekov's Gun')) etc...). No one actually knows what it looks like, but descriptions vary wildly nontheless.

Overuse of the Deus Ex Machina (notably during Star Trek: Voyager) is what has lead to the crippling Villain Decay of the Borg.

 

[Sandoval]

They started out as Jehovah's Witnesses and it escalated from there.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Clearly, some fool in the Delta Quadrant let a nanobot experiment get out of control. With a whole galaxy of people fucking around, it's a wonder that there aren't more Borgs and Doomsday Machines out there.

 

[Saul]

Some idiot wasn't satisfied communicating just by phone or e-mail.

 

[Tom]

They were originally republicans.

 

[Sandoval]

Assimilating different races is like eating Pringles. You can't just have one, you always end up having a few more.

 

[Satyrquaze]

They were originally republicans.

Republicans don't assimilate other races. They commit class warfare against them.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

They were Swedish.

 

[Sandoval]

"We are the Bjorg."

 

[Kelthaz]

Who were they originally before they started to Assimilate other life forms ?
They must have origins and reasons for their behaviour.

Tim Taylor wanted to do something really special for the Tool Time movie, and, well, it went too far. Al's Mom was the original Borg Queen and she served on two Borg Cubes.

Also, by assimilating all that they encounter, surely this must be as near to unbeatable as possible, yet somehow Picard, Janeway et al have frequent victories over them.

I am puzzled

Right, but you have to take into account all the stupid people that exist in every society. For every Stephen Hawking the Borg assimilate, they assimilate two dozen Rick Perry. I'm shocked that they can sustain such an extreme socialist society.

 

[Anwar]

The Borg don't really work out as a Collective that is made up the combined minds of everyone, since so many have been assimilated against their will and their minds have had no effect on the Collective.

My guess is that they're a created race, more like a virus than a Collective.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

"We are the Bjorg."

I'd like to see a Borgified version of this:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu9A0LlLyvo[/yt]

 

[Destructor]

Clearly, some fool in the Delta Quadrant let a nanobot experiment get out of control. With a whole galaxy of people fucking around, it's a wonder that there aren't more Borgs and Doomsday Machines out there.

So true- you'd think it'd be the way half the species in the galaxy end up. I wonder if the Borg ever ran into another, separately evolved race of machine-organisms, and they all joined up? I bet they did. Maybe they have multiple origins? We don't even really know how life started on this planet, let alone all the rest of `em.

 

[The Castellan]

I'm thinking something akin to the classic Doctor Who Cybermen on Mondas.

 

[7thsealord]

Clearly, some fool in the Delta Quadrant let a nanobot experiment get out of control. With a whole galaxy of people fucking around, it's a wonder that there aren't more Borgs and Doomsday Machines out there.

So true- you'd think it'd be the way half the species in the galaxy end up. I wonder if the Borg ever ran into another, separately evolved race of machine-organisms, and they all joined up? I bet they did. Maybe they have multiple origins? We don't even really know how life started on this planet, let alone all the rest of `em.

An interesting idea - kind of like Nomad / Tan Ru on a much bigger scale.

 

[Mr Silver]

I usually bring up the whole "experiment went wrong somewhere in the Delta Quadrant" theory, but we also have to consider that the Borg weren't part of an experiment.

Perhaps the Borg come from a race who just decided one that they were going to strive for perfection and all other races, that the Borg felt were worthy, would have to join them. The cybernetic stuff came later as a result of the Borg deciding that technology and biology should be combined.

 

[TerragonSix]

*Smirks*

Well, I thought this up, it would probably never make any sense whatsoever, but it could be inter-connected.

Remember TMP? The all encompassing V'Ger, origninally a probe known as Voyager VI. Entered a wormhole, landed on a mechanized planet. Altered so that it could fulfill its mission, it went all around the galaxy, absorbing information and saving entire races as data.

Of course, it couldn't do Earth, because Decker joined with it so that V'Ger could 'touch the creator'. From that, we assume that they are a new life form. A life form part machine and part human... starting to sound familiar?

The Borg assimilate races and cultures on the basis of unity (or so I assume). They have extremely advanced technology.

What if the Borg are the offspring of V'Ger and Decker?

 

[Tiberius]

Then how could they have existed back 900 years in the past as the Vaudwaar mention in "Dragon's Teeth"?

I don't see how there is any reasonable connection between V'ger and the Borg.