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The 25th Century

HoundDog

Lieutenant Commander
Red Shirt
First of all, I'm new to this board and this is my first post - and it's going to be a long one. I'm from Germany and my English is far from perfect, so I apologize if some of this might sound funny for native speakers.

Well, after this little introduction, what's this all about? It's about a very old idea of mine I had back in the 90s - and although it might have fit better in the "Future of Trek-forum" then, I figured it would better be placed in the "Fan Fiction-forum" now. If I'm wrong, feel free to remove this topic.

Basically, this was an idea about a trek that never was and - due to the events shown in DS9 and especially Voyager, which are to be considered canon - will not be possible anymore. Nevertheless, I rediscovered this idea while going through very old papers I found at the bottom of my cupboard - and I still think it would have made a nice addition to the franchise.

But before I get to the point of telling you what my idea actually was, you have to take into account a few things: I developed it in the middle of the 90's - Voyager was just premiering in Germany and I wasn't a very regular viewer of DS9 back then. I had even missed some of TNG, and was catching up through daily reruns - well, I was 12 or 13, you know... :) Therefore, some of the characters I came up with were kind of fanboyish or just very flat rehashs from established trek-characters. And as a matter of fact, the Borg were still a menacing collective back then, no Borg Queen in sight!

But still, here we go:
It is the year 2430. It's been 30 years since the Borg have overrun large parts of the Alpha Quadrant. Romulus has been assimilated (as you might remember, the Borg were supposed to be the ones who destroyed some Outposts along the Romulan Neutral Zone in TNGs "The Neutral Zone"), so are most of the Romulan Star Empire and parts of the Klingon Empire and the Ferengi Alliance. In fact, the proud Romulans have become a scattered people, while the Klingons and Ferengi have joined the Federation. After high initial losses, the Federation managed to establish a defense perimeter and reached a stalemate with the Borg. They aren't progressing any further, but are still attacking from time to time. Maybe they just stopped because they had a different front to fight.
Because of the constant threat of being assimilated into the Borg Collective, the series would be much darker. I mean. the Federation is in a permanent state of war. Therefore Starfleet has become more militaristic (they have infantry-units on their ships to fight possible Borg-intruders) and their could have been an arc about a Starfleet conspiracy trying to overthrow the civilian government and establish a military one.
The focus of the series would have been the Crew of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-F, a Defender-Class heavy battlecruiser. The Defender-Class was especially designed to withstand the Borg. The bridge crew consists of the following people:
Captain John Peter Morris, Human
Commander Gorna, Ferengi (XO, he joined Starfleet after the Borg took Ferenginar)
Lt. Cmdr. Datafive (and here it becomes really fanboyish: He was supposed to be an offspring Data built after finishing his service for Starfleet - Science Officer)
Lt. Cmdr. Dr. Jock McKenzie (sounds like a McCoy-clone, and well, I think you're right, Chief Medical Officer)
Lt. Cmdr. Ellen Finch (chief engineer, I alway imagined her being blonde)
Lt. Cedric Stone (human, from a martian colony, chief of security, also commands the ships marines)
Lt. Taurien (maybe a half vulcan/half romulan - some Romulans might have gone back to Vulcan after the fall of their homeworld, chief tactical officer)
Lt. Thomas Anderson (human, chief navigator - well, Voyager just started back then, so this is kind of a Tom Paris-clone, I guess)
An yet unnamed Andorian Chief of Operations officer (they names I came up with didn't sound Andorian at all)

Beyond this basic outline, I also came up with some storylines, and if you are interested - and if I have the time - I can post these as well. But for now, I leave you with one question:
Would this concept have made a good addition to the Star Trek franchise? Would you have liked to see this instead of what we got? Don't get me wrong: overall, I liked most of what we got, but I think this would have been a very different and interesting approach - but I'm biased, it's my idea.
What do you think?
 
with a little more diversity in the crew(liked the Ferengi XO) you might have had something here-why don't you write up an AU short to give us a feel for the format?
 
I just read your idea. I think Mistral is right. I would mix in some more aliens into your crew. But I think you have a good idea there. can't wait to see where you go with it..perhaps a Tribble crew member named Zubby could help..

Rob
 
I think you're right. More diversity would be good. Any suggestions for additions/changes besides Tribble-crewmembers? Maybe an alien captain?
 
Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is a short AU?

a short story in an Alternate Universe(non-canon) setting-which is what you were describing. Since you have the Klingons in the Federation, maybe a Klingon crewmember(a real Klingon, not Worf-raised-by-humans). Also, no one has really concentrated on Rigellians-I have gathered that they are Vulcanoid but not as strong-that's all I got out of Memory Alpha. Lots of room to play with that. I'd say go to Memory Alpha, click the "races: section and peruse for inspiration.
 
Datafive could instead be a "body suit" (the same type used by aliens in the movie "Men In Black" to disguise themselves or provide transportation under Earth gravity.) Instead of "Datafive", the being inside the suit could be a Medusan ambassador/officer, using the suit instead of a box & a Betazoid telepath to interact with non-Medusans.

I wouldn't use a starship labelled "U.S.S. Enterprise-F", but instead use the actual "Enterprise-E" with a few post-Nemesis "All Good Things" style (Sovereign X-Class) upgrades/modifications. I'd add a few Klingon/Romulan "Children Of Heaven" from the Shatnerverse as your Chief Engineer and/or Tactical/Chief Of Security in addition to your Ferengii character. Things have gotten bad enough that its not unusual to see this kind of Bridge Crew. No new classes of starships as the Federation would be re-using as many of the established classes as possible in as many combinations as possible, (see all the TOS/TMP kitbashes at ShipSchematics.Net.)
 
Thanks for your input. I guess I will revamp my idea a little to see where I can go with it. Maybe I'll post a short story in a few days or weeks (I would like to do it immediately, but unfortunately, I have a life beyond Star Trek...;)).

@hellsgate: Btw, I really like the "body-suit" idea, but I have one objection against it. If you have crewmembers aboard a starship that need a body-suit them due to environmental reasons, wouldn't it just be better to let these guys serve on their own ship, where they aren't handicapped by a body-suit?
 
re-the hellsgate msg you wrote-there was (canon) objection to the Vulcans having an all Vulcan ship. In the name of equality and diversity-allow the bodysuit concept.
 
I was not saying that I will not allow the bodysuit-concept. IMO just need to have a very good reason for having a crewmember handicapped by a bodysuit aboard permanently. Maybe something like that the crewman is from a species that has a special sensitivity for space navigation, but can't survive in an earthlike environment. But that would raise the question why not all navigators in Starfleet belong to this species. And it doesn't sound very trek-like at all. Well, maybe I can think about something else.

Btw, speaking of diversity: Maybe I should throw in a german character as well, doesn't seem to happen very often (except for holodeck-/space-Nazis)
 
You know, the Medusans were highly skilled navigators if I recall correctly from TOS. As for why not on all ships-they are usually a very private people and since the sight of them drives most humanoid species mad interaction can be difficult. But with a MIB bodysuit-voila!-you have what could be the most unique character in fanfic.
 
Yeah, thought of a medusan navigator as well. But I wasn't sure if they really were such skilled navigators - wanted to check the TOS-Ep first and decide then. But if you say so, I'll think chances just increased significantly that I will include such a character.
 
from the summary of "Is There No Truth In Beauty"(TOS) at Memory Alpha-

"brilliant navigators with unique mental abilities"

That's what I got on Medusans. Hope it helps.
 
Plus, I'd add old TOS/TAS/TMP-era characters/species in regular & sporadic cameo roles such as a Captain from another vessel, shortly before that character's ship finally collapses after several days/weeks in running battles to keep a set of Borg Diamonds off the fleet's tail.


The character gets beamed out by emergency transporter device (the one Data used to get rid of Picard on the Reman Schimitar,) or possibly flushed out of a hull breach into space as the emergency forcefields finally spatter out as the Borg ship is rammed as a desperate last attempt to stall them.


Add races such as Triexians/Edosians (see "Lieutenant Arex"), Denobulans, Tellarites, etc.
 
^^^^
Regarding TOS/TAS/TMP-races: I'm thinking of changing one of my main characters from human to Deltan, and I intend to use a great variety of different alien races from all the series as minor characters.

And speaking of cameos: If I'm really using this "Data built an offspring idea", the Data-cameo - at least in some kind of flashback sequence - would be an obvious thing to do. But as a matter of fact, I even have an idea for a Picard-cameo in mind - and it does not involve time travel or flashbacks.
 
Yep. Picard re-assimilated as Locutus. I could see that. But I wouldn't do the off-spring idea. I'd leave that idea aside, in exchange for the Medusan navigator.

I'd use an attractive female husk designed by Dr. Soong that was never given a positronic brain of its own & activated, due to the events surrounding Lore & the attack of the crystalline entity at Omicron Theta.

Shinzon had the female husk in one of their labs aboard the Schimitar when Data sacrificed himself, as the Remans were examining uses for it while they were reconfiguring B4. Knowing he couldn't let another Soong-type android be exploited, Data blew the living snot out of the Schimitar but Captain Riker & the U.S.S. Titan (upon its return from the Small Magellanic Cloud,) went back to look for Data & found pieces of "her" among the remaining detritus when the Titan got back on its original mission to Romulus.
 
HoundDog - if you hadn't said you were from Germany, I wouldn't have known. I'm studying German here in the US, and your English sounds much more natural than my German. :D
 
Yep. Picard re-assimilated as Locutus. I could see that. But I wouldn't do the off-spring idea. I'd leave that idea aside, in exchange for the Medusan navigator.
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As a matter of fact, that's not what I have in mind for Picard - and I won't give that idea away right now. Makes for a nice surprise, because I think it's an unusual, but perfectly logical way to bring him back into action.

Well: and the offspring idea: It kinda fascinates me. After watching TNGs "The Offspring" it always seemed a natural development for me that Data would someday figure things out and learn how to "reproduce". Naturally, if I'm going for such a character I must give him a different twist - just a boring Data-rehash won't work. And why shouldn't I have both: Data's son (ord daughter) AND a medusan navigator?
 
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HoundDog - if you hadn't said you were from Germany, I wouldn't have known. I'm studying German here in the US, and your English sounds much more natural than my German. :D

Just read you're post. Thanks for the compliment. Actually, I'm just having an English test today. I need a certificate to continue my studies (History and German language+literature; lots of scientific literature regarding these subjects is in English, so they want a certificate).

Regarding this topic: Do you like the idea/any suggestions?
 
Don't know if anyone's still interested, but I have reworked my concept a little (had a boring night shift last saturday). So here is the premise of the whole thing - due to a lack of creativity, I'll still call it "Star Trek - The 25th Century" (would have gone for "Apocalypse Rising" if that wasn't already an ep of DS9). Character bios will follow sometime later this week:


STAR TREK – THE 25TH CENTURY


Basic premise:
In the year 2428, thirty years after the Borg launched a devastating attack on the Alpha Quadrant which led to the destruction of the Romulan Star Empire and some minor powers, the Crew of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-F is fighting for the survival of life as we know it.


Sidenote:
This is basically an AU-Story, due to the fact that I developed it in the middle of the 90s and some of the ideas I had then and want to keep now can simply not be bend to fit canon. The Borg in this for example are just a collective mind, they don't have a queen/queens to embody the collective. They are – as they were originally back in the days of old – a force of nature that rushes and leaves a path of destruction by exterminating individual life. That does not mean that they don't have plans or goals – in fact their main goal is still assimilating new material into the collective and thus reaching perfection. Still, they will be portrayed very different in this one -and I think more "alien" - in comparison to established canon.


Extended premise:
The Borg attack began in 2398. As hinted in TNGs „The Neutral Zone“, in which they destroyed some outposts along the Romulan Neutral Zone, they reached the Alpha Quadrant in this area. Because their first attempt to invade the Alpha Quadrant by knocking out Earth first had failed (as shown in TNGs „The Best of Both Worlds“), they now went out for a different goal – Romulus. The Romulan Star Empire fell within weeks. After that, It took them less than two years to assimilate Ferenginar and most of his colonies, half of the Klingon Empire, parts of the Federation near these regions and some minor independent political entities. Then they stopped their attack, except for random raids along then new "border" of their territory. Nobody knew why, but everybody was sure that it was just a question of time until they'll start again.
In the aftermath of the attack, a lot of species who where formerly independent joined the Federation – the most prominent being the Ferengi. Others, who where to proud to give up their independence – like the Klingons and the Cardassians - agreed to create a new Joined High Command whose primary goal is to organize and defend the newly established defense perimeter against Borg Space.
The USS Enterprise NCC 1701-F, a Defender-Class heavy battlecruiser, commissioned as new flagship of the Federation just a few months before the attack, is assigned to a battlegroup patrolling the defense perimeter. In 2428, she is not as state of the art as she was thirty years before – she has taken some serious blasts in the initial attack and while fighting of some random Borg raids within the perimeter – but she is still a fine ship and a symbol – as long as there is an Enterprise, there is a Starfleet to defend the Federation.

Feel free to comment/criticise/suggest improvements.
 
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