Ted Sullivan DSC Insights on Twitter

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  1. Vger23

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  2. Cox of Seagulls

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    It would no doubt be gratuitous fan-service, but I would have such a fan boner if an elderly Shran made an appearance.
     
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    Don't hold your breath about Shran. Jeffrey Combs has already said he's inquired about appearing on the show but they've turned him away in the interests of "breaking away from the other Treks."
     
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    How absurd. He has played a few characters on Trek, and could play a brand-spanking new one on Discovery. The man's a great actor! How about as one of the Saru species predators? Or Q, since he mentioned that.
     
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    Fan service is what sci-fi and fantasy franchises are built on. If it's done WELL...I say go for it!
     
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    My favorite part of the Q&A:

     
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    Whereas I find that to be a garbage answer. No one is seriously saying that the sets should look cheap, but there's a huge difference between updating it and abandoning the aesthetic. They obviously know this to be true, as much of the show does keep a vague aesthetic connection to previous Treks. But any time something is called out for looking totally different it's the "TOS was cheap shit" excuse to the rescue.
     
  8. Succubint

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    I love Ted Sullivan's answer. It's a perfect retort, in my opinion. I'm sure he has far more patience than I ever would in replying to the fans of that ilk.
     
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    The aesthetic looks cheap.
     
  10. Tosk

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    Sure it does. I guess that's why they have embraced it on several fronts.
     
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  11. Mirror Mirror

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    And old
     
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  12. Tuskin38

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    If you mean the phasers and communicators, they don’t match the 60s aesthetic.
     
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    As if TOS was ever really that "cheap" by 60s standards. What an obnoxious response.

    "Ignorance of your culture is not considered cool."
    - The Residents

    But then, the whole cycle of life will continue and not far from now, despite DSC being hideously expensive, it will be sneered at as "cheap blue Canadian shit" or somesuch. Hell, somebody's probably doing it right now.
     
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  14. Longinus

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    Yes they absolutely do. They're a perfect example of the look should be updated while being true to the original.
     
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    No they look like something made in the 21st century, not the 1960s.
     
  16. Longinus

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    That's kinda the point of updating. But they retain the original style.
     
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  17. KennyB

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    But it's not the 60s anymore.............:brickwall:
     
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    TOS sets and effects are cheap by today's standards.

    Unless you're Alec Peters, in which case millions buy you a half-finished TOS bridge set:lol:
     
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  19. Vger23

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    I can't believe that this argument about the look of the show still persists.

    The circular attack is getting old, ladies and gents.

    "If you're going to say it's pre Kirk and Spock, it better look like The Cage, otherwise don't set it in that era...make it post-Nemesis"

    Holy fuck, enough already. We get it. Fact is that it is what it is and it's not changing. Beating the dead horse for months now has GOT to be losing its fun and challenge for some of you. I mean, it has to be, right? Can't we complain about something else? I'm sure you could find something fresh and equally inane and immaterial to be dissatisfied with that would be new and at least interesting.
     
  20. gblews

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    Here is the response to Ted's comment from a poster who apparently thinks the way you do:
    Here is Ted's most appropriate response to this:
    And to continue bludgeoning this dead horse, much of what is considered to be the TOS "asthetic" was based on the show's being produced in the 60's, including the color pallet, designed to attract color TV viewers, and the Fx, cause that was the best (60's) tech and budget allowed.

    DSC, as has been mentioned pretty much everywhere hundreds of times, is not produced in the 60's so there is no reason for it to look that way. It is produced in 2017 and set in the current producer's vision of the 23rd century on a 2017 CBS budget.