Taylor Swift, Why The Hate?

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Taylirious, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. Taylirious

    Taylirious Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 6, 2009
    It seems Taylor Swift is the target of much hate and media ridicule.

    If you don't like her music, fine and if you don't find her attractive, fine but there seems to be an endless stream of hate for a young woman who is sweet and talented.

    Some claim boyfriend hopping. So?
    Some claim lack of talent. Not so according to her accolades(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Taylor_Swift :guffaw: She is AWESOME! ).
    Maturity? A matter of perspective. :shrug:

    As a fan I am sick of the bashing. :sigh:
  2. Flying Spaghetti Monster

    Flying Spaghetti Monster Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 18, 2006
    Flying Spaghetti Western
    I support in your support for her. Not that I am a fan.

    I mean, I've been a Rush fan for much of my life. Now there's a band that worked entirely on their own terms, with no support from entertainment magazines or whatever, and they've managed to assemble a meaningful body of work. Yet, critics continue to enjoy bashing them. Their loss, I'd say.
  3. Taylirious

    Taylirious Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 6, 2009
    She has a large fan base and yet critics bash her, so yeah.

    I Have people in my own life who bash her, know very little about her but call her names, say she is ugly and has no talent and assume all her songs are about ex-boyfriends and they are all not. This seems recent given the success of 'Red'.

    I think she is beautiful, talented and she most certainly loves her fans...I enjoy her music very much and adore her voice. She isn't without her flaws but yet love her :)
  4. RoJoHen

    RoJoHen Awesome Admiral

    Apr 14, 2000
    QC, IL, USA
    She's cute and her music is catchy. What more are we supposed to ask from our pop singers?
  5. Taylirious

    Taylirious Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 6, 2009
  6. The Mirrorball Man

    The Mirrorball Man Vice Admiral Admiral

    Dec 18, 1999
    She's young, successful, rich, privileged, beautiful, arguably talented and slightly arrogant, and worst of all she's a woman. She's the archetypal target of media hate.
  7. Mooch

    Mooch Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jun 6, 2001
    I didn't know anyone did. I <3 her! :luvlove:
  8. Mr. Adventure

    Mr. Adventure Admiral Admiral

    Jun 9, 2001
    Mr. Adventure
    I don't know about hate but I do know that it's a source of amusement that so many of her songs are about problems with boys that it leads to speculation that maybe it isn't the guys who are the problem. At least personally I've always found it more amusing than actually spiteful.
  9. Borgminister

    Borgminister Admiral Moderator

    May 30, 2001
    My son used to absolutely love her, so I got to listen to many of her songs. Survived that experience, and actually really liked "I had the best day with you today" which we both sang in tandem driving to his university...
  10. Pingfah

    Pingfah Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Feb 28, 2005
    I don't like her music at ALL.

    I would not dispute that she is a talented individual though, and besides for producing somewhat irritating pop music, doesn't deserve to be lambasted by the press.
  11. cardinal biggles

    cardinal biggles Woke Culture Ass Wagon Premium Member

    Sep 7, 2001
    I really don't get the hate either. Not a fan, but at least she's doing something productive with her life — she writes her own songs, and she's a talented performer. That's more than I can say for the entire Kardashian-Jenner clan.
  12. ManOnTheWave

    ManOnTheWave Vice Admiral Admiral

    Feb 10, 2005
    Whether justified or not, she has the reputation, tongue in cheek or not, of dating someone a week to dump them and write a song about them. I don't hate her. I'm just glad I don't know her.
  13. Eyes

    Eyes Commodore Commodore

    Jul 10, 2009
    I really started liking her music last year, before I'd passed over it, but now it's completely the opposite of hate here. That's down to taste though, I can understand there'd be those who might dislike/hate her music.

    But as an person she seems lovely, I don't know of anyone who actually dislikes her as an individual unless you count teen girl Twitterites who blame her for hooking up with their celebrity of choice and then breaking it off soon after (thinking very much of Harry Styles here). Probably shouldn't count those.
  14. wissaboo

    wissaboo Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Nov 12, 2006
    just another victim of overexposure. Though I think she needs a better publicist too. Interview after interview about boys and relationships are ok at 18 but at 23 it's kinda juvenile. And I don't think her current album is as good as her previous stuff.
  15. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oct 24, 2004
    The Island
    One of the few young pop stars I can stand and I have to listen to it a lot since my niece insists on it when I take her to and from school. Besides she's smokin' hot. And looked hot in a Star Trek uniform.
  16. gblews

    gblews Vice Admiral Admiral

    Apr 13, 2004
    So. Cal.
    I certainly don't hate her but I do find all the accolades to be puzzling. I have a very open mind when it comes to music and I have found her songs so utterly forgettable that I no longer even bother listening when they pop up on Pandora.

    In terms of her ability to write pop songs, she obviously knows what a "hook" is and the amount of emphasis to place on it but her hooks are really uninteresting. She does not appear to have any gift for melody at all. She is a much lesser version of Katie Perry with respect to her songwriting.

    Her singing is average. She is nowhere even close to contemporaries, Kelly Clarkson, Pink, Beyonce, nor does she possess those ladies' charisma. From a musical and performance standpoint, Swift, to me, doesn't appear to be that much different from Justin Beiber, she is just in a somewhat more commercially viable package.

    Kanye West's little stunt has seemed to have cast her forever in the role of "victim" or perennial underdog which, IMO, has made her an easy person to vote for when handing out awards even though her work rarely rises above average.

    If she was a mega talented singer like a Clarkson, or mega talented pop songwriter like a Katie Perry or Alicia Keys, or a charismatic performer like Lady Gaga or Beyonce, I would say to hell with the haters, this woman is the s""t. But she isn't any of those things yet she she continues to be a media darling and award show favorite -- like Beiber (minus the awards).

    I don't hate her but I can easily see why others may.
  17. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

    May 10, 2005
    The visitor's bullpen
    Perhaps it's coming from country fans who resent her for 'selling out' and going pop?
  18. Squiggy

    Squiggy FrozenToad Admiral

    Jul 5, 2006
    Left Bank
    That's the reason.
  19. Jax

    Jax Admiral Admiral

    Jun 21, 2003
    A Dimension with no Cake!
  20. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jul 6, 2011
    Her shtick is getting old. She isn't a 16-year-old writing love songs anymore. She is a superstar who has a hit list of romantic love songs, nothing else. Either she broke up with her boyfriend, or she's in bliss, usually as a teenager.

    I am over being a teenager. I didn't particularly like being a teenager. It wasn't all that great, and I find people talking about it like it was the "best days of your life" is not only cliche, but caused me a lot of trouble when I had a bad day as a teenager. "This is a as good as life gets, and I'm not making the most of it." I actually had these thoughts because everyone was telling me about "freedom." Therefore, it can be damaging.

    When I see someone as successful as Taylor Swift I expect them to be talented, first of all. She is not a vocalist. When she hits her next high note, it will be her first. And she has no social commentary. She made 21 million dollars in 2011 alone. And for what? Teenage love?

    Michael Jackson had "We are the World," "Black or White," and "Man in the Mirror." Garth Brooks had "The Change," "We Shall Be Free," and "Standing Outside the Fire." When you get this big you say something about the world that hasn't been said before, and hopefully, has a positive impact. Where is that from Swift?

    More than that, there was a varying voice in the love songs of Brooks, in particular. "The Thunder Rolls" about spousal abuse from third-person, "Shameless" was a love song from a man who didn't want to write one, etc. This is nowhere in Swift's music.

    She had an opportunity, a big one, by switching the sex of the soldier that came home on the "Ours" video. Instead, it's just another love song that will fade into obscurity as soon as people get tired of her. Her music will not last after her career is over. She is a flash in the pan, gets really hot, and then fades away. I can't stand to listen to her anymore.

    She never grew up as an artist, and that is what I hold against her.