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"Superman & Lois Lane" flying to The CW

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Wasn't talking about clear cut stories like Racism, bigotry, violence aginst refugees, and other things that are shown on the show, Etc. that there is a Clear Right and and Clear Wrong.. I'm talking about some current political topics that aren't as clear cut. that some topics have some debate in them, and the show just picks the left leaning side, and then portrays any other type of thinking as wrong. You either agree with supergirl or your a villian! as its portrayed. So called "Moral Message" is based on the bias of the writer/producers, and that if your "Morals" aren't in line, your a bad guy/girl/etc.
 
JD said:
I doubt Clark will be a "housewife", but I would not be at all surprised if we got at least a few scenes of Clark at home taking care of the kid, while Lois is out on a solo assignment.
Have they said officially if the kid is going to be Jon from the comics?
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What ever happened to the man of Tomorrow?

It was the belief of old timey writers that Lois and Clark could not be together unless Superman was stripped of his powers. Because he would accidentally kill her, if they slept in the same bed, and because it was impossible for Superman to ignore his responsibility to save the world, everytime it needed saving.

Clark Kent needs Kryptonian superpowers to do his job as a Daily Planet reporter. Without them, as he can't get information he doesn't superhears, or get to locations he can't reach with out flight and super speed, AND WORRYING ABOUT A HAIL OF BULLETS EVERY OTHER MINUTE...

Typing at the human speeds of a man who has no training with a word processor... It might take him a week to write 2000 words.

He can't get stories.

The weak stories he can get, he can't get to press on time.

Clark Kent , as a human, will be fired from the Daily Planet bullpen in less than two weeks.

Lois will keep him on as a maid.

If he wears the sexy uniform.
 
Lets see.. Guns, climate change, abortion, etc.
And mistreament of Immigrants have been going on for centerys on both sides of the isle
But this isn't the thread to talk of them.
 
CorporalCaptain said:
Clark should be able to do all the house chores in a few seconds, tops, so I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that he does that part of the heavy lifting in his relationship, assuming he's out as Superman with his partner or he just makes sure that she's not around while he's using that super-breath and super-speed to clean.
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We already know from their appearance on Elseworlds that Lois knows Clark is Superman.
 
valkyrie013 said:
Wasn't talking about clear cut stories like Racism, bigotry, violence aginst refugees, and other things that are shown on the show, Etc. that there is a Clear Right and and Clear Wrong.. I'm talking about some current political topics that aren't as clear cut. that some topics have some debate in them, and the show just picks the left leaning side, and then portrays any other type of thinking as wrong. You either agree with supergirl or your a villian! as its portrayed. So called "Moral Message" is based on the bias of the writer/producers, and that if your "Morals" aren't in line, your a bad guy/girl/etc.
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Like I said, stories have a right to take a point of view, and you can't realistically expect every one of them to agree with yours. If you can't handle the existence of disagreeing viewpoints, then you're the one being intolerant. If you have a different point of view, then you can express it yourself, or seek out other fiction that does agree with you. Nobody's stopping you from walking away from the shows you don't like. But you don't get to say they have no right to take a position other than your own. I doubt you'd complain as much about a story coming down as firmly on your own side.


JD said:
We already know from their appearance on Elseworlds that Lois knows Clark is Superman.
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That's a hell of an understatement, given that they're engaged (if not married by now) and expecting a child. Heck, we've known that they were a couple since Superman's earliest appearance in the show. Lois wasn't seen until Elseworlds, but she was talked about before then.
 
Christopher said:
If you can't handle the existence of disagreeing viewpoints, then you're the one being intolerant
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Last thing on this topic then I'm done..
Just saying is that "THEY" as in the writers and producers don't engage in any disagreeing viewpoints. I'm not the one being "Intolerant" I'm just pointing out there Bias. ( also, please don't personalize this I never call out anyone to be Intolerant or wrong, I understand they have different opinions, and while I may disagree.. They have the right to that opinion, and to say it proudly Viva America!.)
And I've never said they have to agree with me? What would be the fun in the world if everyone agreed with me?? Boring place I tell ya!
 
valkyrie013 said:
Just saying is that "THEY" as in the writers and producers don't engage in any disagreeing viewpoints.
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Again: They don't have to. That is not how fiction works. Some stories explore both sides of an issue, some make a strong stand on one side. Storytellers have the right to tell stories however they wish, and the fact that they have different approaches is a good thing.
 
Christopher said:
That's a hell of an understatement, given that they're engaged (if not married by now) and expecting a child. Heck, we've known that they were a couple since Superman's earliest appearance in the show. Lois wasn't seen until Elseworlds, but she was talked about before then.
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Yeah, but I believe Elseworlds was the first time we definitely knew that she knew. There have been stories like this in the past where the characters were together, but the civilian didn't know their partner was a superhero. Them being together doesn't necessarily mean that she knew he was Superman.
 
In current, Superman and Lois are making a baby.

:ack::barf:

Stories about babies are the worst.

I find it likely that a Superman series will be set in the past, where they meet, or the future, and the child is at a more bearable age. Of course, we could get a mixture of stories from multiple timezones, like This is Us, or me Myself and I.

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JD said:
Yeah, but I believe Elseworlds was the first time we definitely knew that she knew. There have been stories like this in the past where the characters were together, but the civilian didn't know their partner was a superhero. Them being together doesn't necessarily mean that she knew he was Superman.
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It always seemed to me from their phone conversation in the season 2 opening that Lois knew. Clark told her he was with Kara, then said "Yes, I'll be careful." Why would Lois have told him to be careful if she thought Clark and Kara were just normal civilians?

Besides, in most modern versions of the Superman narrative, Lois does find out Clark's secret after a certain amount of time, and usually by the time they become a serious romantic item. Supergirl's Superman and Lois start out relatively late in their storyline, more than a decade after when Superman stories usually begin, so it just stands to reason that they'd be in a later stage of their relationship. Hell, if Jimmy knew Clark's identity from the first episode, it stands to reason Lois would too.
 
It's been my assumption that we're supposed to infer Hoechlin/Tulloch's history is similar - at least hitting the same major beats - as Welling/Durance's.

*With Brooks having a similar history to Ashmore (sans the silly 'brother' thing) where he sussed out Clark's identity on his own (twice).
 
CorporalClegg said:
It's been my assumption that we're supposed to infer Hoechlin/Tulloch's history is similar - at least hitting the same major beats - as Welling/Durance's.
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No, the Earth-38 Clark and Lois follow a more conventional trajectory -- Lois was one of the first reporters to interview Superman, and Clark met her when he got the job at the Planet and fell in love at first sight. It's all pretty much the standard Superman story rather than the revisionist and often quite clumsy Smallville version; it's just that it all happened already, years before we met them. That plus this Superman doesn't seem to have ever faced many of his major foes like Bizarro or Metallo.


*With Brooks having a similar history to Ashmore (sans the silly 'brother' thing) where he sussed out Clark's identity on his own (twice).
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James always struck me as being based on the Bronze Age comics' Jimmy, who had grown well beyond his early cub reporter role to become a world-famous, globetrotting investigative reporter/adventurer. The one thing they drew from other screen adaptations was his portrayal as a photographer instead of a reporter, an innovation of the Donner movie that every subsequent screen adaptation has emulated (oddly, the comics didn't pick it up until the '90s).
 
Enough of the political wrestling matches. Any more and you risk a warning

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