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STXI and "The Man Trap": introductory Treks for newbies?

Eddie Roth

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Last night, I decided to go all the way back to Trek's beginning and watched "The Man Trap" which, as you know, was the first Star Trek audiences were ever exposed to back in 1966. I found it interesting to compare this episode to the new film, as apparently some inspiration was drawn from it.

As you can see from the images below, the shot of Kirk and Spock taking cover on the Narada is lifted one to one from a shot in The Man Trap.

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Watching the episode, it felt like a really good follow-up to the movie in the way the characters act. One might say this about many episodes of course, or else praise the movie for following those character traits so closely, but this being the first episode I've seen again after the film, it just deepens my appreciation for what Abrams and co. have achieved.

I also noticed that this is the episode in which Uhura tries to flirt with Spock - something, shall we say, elaborated on in the film. ;)

But the actual point of this comparison is to address some of the critics of the film, those who say it wasn't Star Trek to them, that it was too much of a summer blockbuster, that it didn't discuss issues or go deep thematically. Which, much as I loved the film, is true of course. But it wasn't aiming for that, I dare say. What was important, and this has been said by many, was to bring Star Trek back to a large audience, to create new fans instead of just servicing the old ones. To that end, viewers unfamiliar with Star Trek need to be picked up where they are. Fans of sci-fi in general, young audiences eager for adventure stories, excitement, humor, action... all of which ST always had to offer, but maybe in a somewhat old-fashioned way. You get them be giving them what they look for in movies generally and at the same time, you do this with these characters, in this universe and with the same basic storytelling conventions that the series had: the Kirk-Spock duality for one thing - certainly the focus of the film. Or, and that was a moment that struck me during the film as something very unusual for an action film, but certainly very much in the Trek philosophy: At the end, Kirk offers to save Nero from the destruction of his ship. Love thy enemy... A small moment to be sure, but very Trekkian nonetheless.

"The Man Trap" was NBC's choice to air first, even though its plot in which the crew spend most of their time hunting down and eventually killing a creature that's the last of its kind is somewhat the antithesis of the Trek idea of cherishing the unknown instead of fearing it, or of finding the value and beauty even in those things that are dangerous or hideous. The episode generally doesn't rate that highly in part because of that element. It's only in the very last scene that Kirk expresses a tiny hint of regret that they had just killed the last "buffalo", as he puts it.

But, and here's my thought about the connection to the film: It was what a 1966 audience would've known and expected from sci-fi television: there's a monster, kill it! So first off they got a somewhat conventional story that went for action, mystery, danger to get them hooked while the actual thematic meat of the show was delivered in later shows, such as, two weeks later, "Where No Man Has Gone Before", that they were now willing to get into because that initial episode had endeared them to the characters, the concept, the design... whatever it is that makes you stick with a show.

I imagine a similar thought made STXI the way it was: Introduce the characters, make the audience fall in love with them, give them action, mystery, suspense and juuuust a little hint of what the deeper philosophy of this universe is. Once the new fans are there, the next one will go a lot deeper.

So, is STXI a new "The Man Trap", an entertaining and well-made Trek Lite as an appetizer? Will the next film be a "Where No Man Has Gone Before"? Or am I overlooking some deeper Trekkian moments in the film?
 
I think this is an excellent post with well-made points and I agree with many of them. Also glad you posted the pictures.
 
Just dont let it be another Wrath of Kahn. I'm not sure what they can do in Star Trek to ensure they keep the non-trek appeal. I think they did a great job here so its just a mtter of them doing it again, but different.
 
I think, upon a second viewing tonight, that they did a very good job as it is for a Star Trek film. It's still not science-fiction the way TMP is, but if we're honest, none of the following films ever was that way again, but it became more of the space opera - a fact that Roger Ebert decried, but that made it work a lot better for many fans and casual viewers alike. And the new one is probably the best space opera they have ever done, what with the large scope it has and all. So a reprise of that might not be the worst thing for them to do next time.
 
"The Man Trap" is one of the weaker episodes. Not one of the stinkers, but not a great one.

Compare it to "The Corbomite Maneuver", however, and the new movie fails miserably.
 
As you can see from the images below, the shot of Kirk and Spock taking cover on the Narada is lifted one to one from a shot in The Man Trap...
Please. That's a standard two-shot. It's not a "lift".

I wasn't implying anything negative with the term. But I do think the actors' poses are very very very similar. So much so that it has to be inspired by that single original shot and no other. Look at how Spock holds his phaser and the actors' expressions.

"The Man Trap" is one of the weaker episodes. Not one of the stinkers, but not a great one.

Compare it to "The Corbomite Maneuver", however, and the new movie fails miserably.

Oh, and April: I know you didn't even bother to read my original post, because if you had you wouldn't be writing such nonsense. This isn't about compating qualities of episodes or films. It's ridiculous how you keep spending time trying to put the movie down in the company of people who clearly enjoyed it. You just make yourself look bad by barging in just to say something negative.
 
Greetings from a newbie to the Star Trek fandom, first-poster, and recent convert due to the new movie; and I only go out of the way to mention my utter newbishness to say that I completely agree with Eddie Roth's analysis of the movie and "The Man Trap."

Saturday afternoon, I saw the movie and fell in love with it; Saturday evening, I came home and watched "Mirror, Mirror" (the idea of Spock with a goatee was too much to pass up), and Sunday afternoon I watched "The Man Trap." I'd watched one episode and one movie (which I didn't follow in the least) several years ago, but this movie really drew me into the idea of Star Trek.

Now, my mom's a Star Trek fan (of the casual variety, not one inclined to go to conventions or join forums), and I'm a sci-fi fan who's been considering trying out the Star Trek fandom for a few years now, so I admit I wasn't a very hard sell. But for me, the movie served to do exactly what Eddie Roth said; it introduced me to the Star Trek characters, some awesome Kirk-Spock interactions, the general universe/setting of Star Trek, all in a style that reminds me more of the past few year's superhero blockbusters than of that one episode I saw years ago. True, to do so, they used some ideas that probably wouldn't be found in the original Star Trek. Ignorant though I am, I sincerely doubt that we would ever see Spock attempting to strangle Kirk or making out with Uhura in the original series. (My mom confirms this, so I trust her judgment.)

I got the same feeling from "The Man Trap." I ended the episode wondering, "If they had a stun setting on their guns even in this first episode, and if the monster is really capable of living off salt tablets as well as humans, why didn't they stun it and send it with a shipload of salt to some kind of wildlife reserve for endangered aliens?" It seemed to me, based on what little knowledge of the show I have, that such a course of action would've been much more in character for the cast. The conclusion I came to was "It's the first episode, the audience would be disappointed if the Big Bad Monster of the Week wasn't killed off."

Which makes it serve basically the same purpose as the movie. For people familiar with the fandom (or even passingly familiar, like myself), bits and pieces of the characterization seem "incorrect" in both the movie and pilot episode, but that's because of their familiarity with fandom. For people unfamiliar, there's nothing to object to as being "wrong." In fact, had a strictly "correct" approach been taken, it would alienate audiences that expect a reasonable being to get mad when he's accused of not loving his mother, or that expect a reasonable being to shoot the space monster that tried to kill his friend/superior.

So, here's a newbie who agrees with a veteran's analysis of the relationship between STXI and "The Man Trap." (And who is looking forward to seeing "Where No Man Has Gone Before" soon, if it's really got more of the "thematic meat" of the show. I'm now trying to watch the original series episodes in order, so I'm glad it comes early on.)
 
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"The Man Trap" is one of the weaker episodes. Not one of the stinkers, but not a great one.

Compare it to "The Corbomite Maneuver", however, and the new movie fails miserably.

Holy shit, you'll try to suck the fun out of anything, won't you? :lol:


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