Spoilers Stranger Things - Season 4

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  1. TREK_GOD_1

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  2. Reverend

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    Yup; like I said: Jabba's Palace!
    It's the mid-80's. No mobile phones, and any carphone the General might have had would have been in the vehicles. Same for any long range radio gear; No point taking a signalman with a backpack transceiver down into a bunker after all (even if the antenna would fit through the door, which it wouldn't, so moot point.)

    Plus they cut the hardline before the assault, so no getting the word out that way in a hurry either.
     
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  3. Grendelsbayne

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    I'm pretty sure the phone cut was part of Brenner's attempt to backstab Owens (before the military arrived) so I wouldn't think he actually cut off the entire facility's ability to communicate with the outside world. Just the phone Owens was using.
     
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  4. Mojochi

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    That dude giving Nancy shit about her gun. Bro, do you even know? That girl is probably the most badass with a gun in the whole damn town lol. They should probably give her a scene in the last season where Hopper just gives her HIS gun :guffaw:
     
  5. Jedi Marso

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    Did anyone catch the Aliens easter egg right after the evil army won their initial firefight in the bunker?

    The general tells them: "Quarter and search by twos. Hicks, take the upper level."
     
  6. Kaiju

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    Not sure if having Winona Ryder walk into a lab full of monstrous specimen was an intentional nod to Alien Resurrection or not.

    But, hooray for the Atlantean Sword!
     
  7. Samurai8472

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    So I have "Running Up the Hill" on my phone after I played my phones guess what showed up on my radio? I thought it was a neat coincidence.


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  8. Reverend

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    In those old analogue exchanges, it really would have been faster an easier to cut the main line that to try and pick out the one specific extension he was dialling from. It's not like he was calling from a private office or anything; It was one of presumably several phones in the lab area.

    Also factor in that Brenner was going rogue here. He couldn't risk some random tech or soldier calling out to Owens' other allies or assets. Mutinies and coups are tricky like that. He wanted El all to himself, so of course he'd seek to isolate the whole facility.

    All academic anyway since the only proof we need is the simple fact that the military faction didn't catch up to them at all. Ergo all communications had to have been cut. QED
     
  9. Jedi Marso

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    I LOL'd at that- I was saying: "Okay, where did Conan's sword suddenly appear from... awww, ta hell with it. Kill that bastard!!!"
     
  10. Mojochi

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    It was one of the melee weapons given to one of the other 6 prisoners that the demogorgon slaughtered there in episode 7, & was just still there on the floor, after the fact. Hop had a spear. Dmitri & another guy had battle axes, & a couple guys had those swords. I had to go back to remember that myself, because this waiting a month for the finale is kind of a crap format that has you forgetting things
     
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    My feeling about the finale is the same as my feeling about Season 4, which is I'm still confused by these episode run times. Why did that finale need to be 2 and a half hours long, when you could have made it just 2 episodes in an arc based streaming series. There was a lot of stuff at the beginning which could have filled maybe even a shorter episode in itself. I also feel like the Russia storyline was not needed and the only reason why it was there was to save Hopper and give Joyce and Murray something to do.

    I did enjoy the finale though. I thought the Master of Puppets montage was the best part of the finale and I was bummed Eddie died. It did feel a little overhyped with the rumors of one of the main cast dying, and I was expecting Steve. I guess I'm happy it didn't happen because I like Steve, but it did seem a bit anti-climactic. I'm hoping Season 5 is actually smaller in scope, and we do see the fight for Hawkins (or what's left of it). This season the various storylines were all over the place.
     
  12. Jedi Marso

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    When you boil it down and take it in perspective... Conan's Atlantean sword, provided it is 'real' steel and sharpened, is not a weapon to be sneezed at. I'd take it over a lot of similar weapons in similar dire circumstances- I'm just sayin'...
     
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  13. Mojochi

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    I just don't get the issue. Seems like a tempest in a teapot to me. With streaming platforms, what difference does it make? I mean the whole season amounts to just under 13 hours. Does it really matter that they broke it down into 9 blocks of varying lengths instead of 12 or 13 more consistently timed blocks?

    I mean, the people who are going to binge it, won't care. I came home after work on Friday night & spent the evening watching all 4 hours, with some snacks & a few beers. I thought it was perfect for a full movie night double-header. It didn't matter whether it was four hours in 4 blocks or 2. I actually did the same thing with the first 7 episodes too, over a weekend, 1-4 Friday night, & then 5-7 the next night.

    And the people who don't want to binge like that? Well... what difference does that make? You can literally stop it at your leisure, & it will even remember where you left off. I actually do that with some shows a lot. I guess my point is, if a viewer wants to only watch an hour of it... they can still do that, even though the creators might not have paced it for exactly those breaks.

    It's kind of like suggesting a novel's chapters all have to be the same number of pages. They don't. I kind of like this freedom that streaming has given. It's more novelesque imho. & I'm hoping that both styles prevail. The Boys puts out an hour once a week, & that's cool. I think Stranger Things could have even broken their season into a 3rd block, & given us 4+ hours over 2 or 3 months, & we could've enjoyed it like 3 nights of double-header cinema, throughout the summer....... or not. It's up to you.
     
  14. theenglish

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    Yep, that is the nice thing about streaming services. You can watch it whenever and however you want. For shows that end on cliffhangers every episode I watch the first ten minutes or so of the next episode to see how the situation is resolved and then turn it off for another viewing night. Right now, I still have Obi-Wan, Captain Pike, the crew of the Orville, the Umbrella Academy, and season 3 of Lost and Space waiting for me to watch when I have time-- and I will probably stop episodes part way through viewing them.

    I was/am confused about the way this season was chunked as well, but I'm not losing sleep over it or let it bug me.
     
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    I usually stop at least twice watching most shows, I watch around 20-40 minutes, stop for my 1:45ish bike ride, watch another 10-15 minutes, shower, and then go back and finish it. Sometimes if we decide to do something after lunch, I might stop it again and then finish either that even or the next more.
    It's pretty rare for me to just sit and watch an hour episode of streaming shows in one sitting.
    As for the episode lengths, I'm honestly kind of surprised Netflix even does episodes at all, and doesn't just release the whole thing one massive chunk, and just leave it up to us to pick when and where we want to stop.
     
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    Stranger Things used an episodic format from the start, so its never going to be broadcast in the manner of a long-form film. Moreover, breaking the season is not much different than the practice traditional TV used to employ with breaks (with a tease or cliffhanger in some cases) before holidays, or saving crucial points of a season arc for "sweeps". In Netflix's case, the broadcast format also encourages more social media discussion attention, particularly about series where the fate of favorite characters are up in the air.
     
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    It seemed like there were a few natural “breaks” in there with a fade to black after certain points if one wanted to pause while watching. The lengths were unusual but an artistic choice according to the Duffers who felt they wanted to have the rise, climax, and follow up to all be self-contained.
     
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  18. JD

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    This season was pretty serialized though, and I'm not just talking about Stranger Things, I'm talking about all of their shows in general. I've been watching The Dragon Prince and with at least the first four episodes of that, there is not no break between episode. Each one has literally picked up exactly where the last one picked up, honestly the ends of the episodes are little jarring, because it just stops, and then just picks up with the next episode.
    Now that I think about, with the autoplay option you can just keep going, so I guess that pretty does what I was talking about.
     
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    I would liken the episode concept on streaming shows to chapter breaks on DVD/Blu-Ray. It would be pretty hard to fast forward to a specific scene if a 13 hour season were on one file like a movie. Come to think of it, I don't know why streaming services don't put chapter breaks in episodes and movies anyway as it would be a lot easier to find specific scenes and moments if they had them.
     
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  20. JD

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    That's a good point.
    Yeah, that would be nice.