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STMP: Directors Edition review..

srombomb

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So for awhile I've been reflecting on the directors edition of TMP as not as good as initially reviewed by others.

I threw in the dvd last night, and must say I'm mightily impressed. From the way the new Vulcan backdrop actually looks like Vulcan from other incarnations of Trek, as well as the new movie, to the way the new edit forces there to be less time in between each major action sequence, it just works overall.

If paramount fails to remaster it for 1080p there extremely stupid, especially considering such a respected director like Robert Wise only endorses the new one as being the definitive version.

Another thing I was thinking about was how much I've knocked the movie for lacking the fun, loose chemistry of the old show. If you take the story into context, none of the old crew has been around each other for years in the story. Think of how things are anytime you haven't seen a close friend for years. There is that expected amount of awkwardness at first until you both start cracking jokes again. If nothing else this film sports that awkwardness and it's really authentic.

The only thing I think that's too bad is that people like Sulu and Uhura weren't written a couple of their own scenes in this movie. To do something that actually had a profound impact on the crew making it home in one piece. However, Decker's character and Ilia's pretty much prevented that from happening.

The set design for this movie is still top notch. As much as I loved the new movie, the engineering section in this movie still kicks it's ass. It's what you'd expect from a futuristic looking engineering section. Also, the uniforms aren't nearly as uncool looking as I used to think they were. If nothing else I almost prefer the uniforms in this movie compared to the sequels. The special effects still rule, and are really better than anything we saw from later sequels.

All in all this film has held up damn well over the course of 30 years.

Also, pay attention next time you watch it, and in the end when you actually see the Vejur spacecraft approaching earth, it looks a lot like the Narada. Same power jolting through it, very borg like. Just adds to the continuity of other things we have seen before in Trek.

:techman:
 
Ahh yes I know that Forrest:)

But it still blows my mind if Paramount doesn't considering the only director approved edition of this movie is the directors edition. However, it's pretty mind bending they didn't at least include the 1983 edition on the current blu-ray to try to make up for not putting out the directors edition.
 
Yea I really like the Directors Edition alot more then the original. I hope they get it on blu-ray someday!
 
I never cared for the Directors Edition, I just don't like movies to be digitally "improved" some 20 years after their original release.

I'm glad that they have finally released the Theatrical Cut. What I'd really be interested in now is the Special Longer Version, which in my opinion is the best version of TMP there is.
 
The Special Longer Version is the Poster Boy for why some footage belongs on the cutting room floor.
 
Both the "Special Longer Edition" and the theatrical cut ceased to exist for me after the release of the Director's Cut.

The Director's Cut is the way Robert Wise wanted the film to begin with -- so why question his decision to finish the film -- or the quality thereof?

:rolleyes:
 
Both the "Special Longer Edition" and the theatrical cut ceased to exist for me after the release of the Director's Cut.

The Director's Cut is the way Robert Wise wanted the film to begin with -- so why question his decision to finish the film -- or the quality thereof?

:rolleyes:

Because directors can be wrong, they can be self-indulgent hacks that produce bloated movies that have to be rescued by studios. Just ask Allan Smithee.

A prime example for me would be Nick Meyer's ST Director's Cuts. Star Trek II was in my mind made inferior by the DC, it turned out that Peter Preston couldn't act, Spock looked at Kirk's ass and said 'Fascinating', and the Spacelab debate became a directorial flash that distracted from the meat of the scene.

Then there's The Undiscovered Country, with it's goddamn Scooby Doo ending in the home video versions. I never even bothered with the DC of that one, you can't polish a turd.

All this from a Director who in the commentary for TWOK said he disliked Director's Cuts.

There are very few DCs that are worth the time, most of them come from Ridley Scott. Also Chronicles of Riddick and Daredevil are two examples where the DC actually improve the movie. Most just add bloat.

As for Wise's TMP, it's swings and roundabout really. He improves the pace of the film, restores as much emotion as possible to sterile performances, but a couple of my favourite scenes hit the floor (I miss the debate about V'Ger's occupants), and some of the new effects sequences are flawed (wonky nacelle). I don't know what they did, but Jerry Goldsmith's soundtrack is utterly weedy, aside from the overture and the Enterprise sightseeing tour, it just doesn't sound theatrical any more.
 
To be honest, you can't really improve TMP that much, given that they wrote the third act as it was being filmed.

For fuck's sake, they spend a huge chunk of the film developing two characters who die at the end, and "our" people don't seem all that bothered by it.
 
My only problem with the Special Longer Edition are that shot of Kirk exiting the ship wearing the spacesuit from the Memory Wall/Trench sequence and the fact that Robert Wise had nothing to do with the editing of this version of the film.

Otherwise it's fine with me in the context of the time it came out.
 
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