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STID's Khan was not sexy

Brutal Strudel

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For all the noise made about Cumberbatch as an actor, I think Bana managed to be more interesting in what was a terribly underwritten part. Though much of his performance was generic sci-fi villain, he did have moments like "Hi, Chris. I'm Nero." Cumberbatch was NOTHING but generic sci-fi villain, a copy of a copy of copy, Blade Runner's Roy Batty with none of the off-kilter humor or genuine anguish.

And Roy Batty, like Montalban's Khan was sexy--his scenes with Pris crackle and there's real seductive menace in his cat-and-mouse game with Deckard. But thats where ID missed it: Khan is SEXY. That was key to "Space Seed" and, for all his scenery chewing, highlighted by his bare chest in Star Trek II: TWOK. Simply casting an actor of proven sex appeal is not enough if he doesn't get a chance to BE sexy.

They missed an obvious opportunity to have Khan, Carol Marcus and Kirk involved in a love triangle?For all the noise made about Cumberbatch as an actor, I think Bana managed to be more interesting in what was a terribly underwritten part. Though much of his performance was generic sci-fi villain, he did have moments like "Hi, Chris. I'm Nero." Cumberbatch was NOTHING but generic sci-fi villain, a copy of a copy of copy, Blade Runner's Roy Batty with none of the off-kilter humor or genuine anguish.

STID forgot one key thing about Khan: he's SEXY. That was key to "Space Seed" and, for all his scenery chewing, highlighted by his bare chest in Star Trek II: TWOK. They missed an obvious opportunity to have Khan, Carol Marcus and Kirk involved in a love triangle? She could have worked with him in developing the new torpedoes, only gradually learning that he and her father are up to no good. She would have a major conflict, choosing to side with Kirk and Federation values over not just her father but the man whose charm, intelligence and magnetism had her falling in love with him.
 
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How evil was he, really? It was diffucult to tell if this Khan had the dreams of conquest of his "Space Seed" counterpart. He only goes batshit total destruction once Kirk double-crosses him.
 
Cumberbatch is always sexy.

Wouldn't mind seeing him back in the third one.
 
Cumberbatch is always sexy.

Wouldn't mind seeing him back in the third one.

Neither would I, I really enjoyed him in STID. I loved the bit when Kirk was beating on him and he sneered back 'captain' he was a menacing presence throughout the movie, even if I did think the casting was wrong.

In wouldn't mind the Klingons come looking for the guy who took out their squadron and demand he's re-thawed or something.

As long as it doesn't go all Spider Man 3 on us and overloads it with baddies...
 
Yes, a man of superior intellect, strength, co-ordination, and ability should've also had superior pheromones. Carol Marcus would've been the logical target for his sexy cunning. I just don't know if the story needed it, but Cumberbatch could've carried it off. He creates characters you can't take your eyes off of.

I know I formed a man-crush on Cumberbatch and started watching Sherlock because of STID. I'm really looking forward to seeing The Imitation Game because I hear he gave a very strong performance in it.

It would be great to see him in more Trek somehow, although soon, they may not be able to afford his price. :)
 
I've never found Cumberbatch remotely sexy or even attractive. Actually find him kind of repulsive, which is weird since I find most people attractive on some level. I can't get into him no matter how I've tried to. Of course he's a fine actor and I was thrilled someone so currently regarded as hot and popular was in Trek. But I don't get any charisma off him myself.
 
Cumberbatch is sexy, but he wasn't given much of an opprotunity to show that in the movie. I would've hated a love triangle if Carol was the center of it, since I wasn't that crazy about this version of her. She had her moments, but was best reacting to her father - the scene where he transports her off the Enterprise against her will was awesome. But her scenes with Kirk were cringe inducing for me.
It is a crime against humanity that the Khan shower scene was cut - it was sexy but strangely menacing, and thus very effective.
Cumberbatch is great, but he was really miscast. It was distracting from the movie to ask us to accept he was Khan when he's so physically different from Montalban. Montalban really rocked the sex appeal, with both strong charisma and a very nice chest.
 
We absolutely needed that shower scene. It's a strange thing to see someone so menacing at their most vulnerable, naked in a shower. I think it would have been a huge addition to the character to have included it.
 
STID forgot one key thing about Khan: he's SEXY.

STID forgot most things about Khan, like giving him motivations that made some kind of sense. But I don't think there was any deficit of sexiness. Cumberbatch has that aspect of things sewn up pretty much by just arriving on the set.
 
We absolutely needed that shower scene. It's a strange thing to see someone so menacing at their most vulnerable, naked in a shower. I think it would have been a huge addition to the character to have included it.

I completely agree! That oh so brief scene is chok full of menace, it adds a lot to my perception of the character. It's sexy, sure, but it adds to the character and plot.
Unlike say, having Carol Marcus randomly change clothes in front of Kirk. That that stayed in the movie but Khan's shower scene didn't really shows the mistakes tptb made there.
Does anybody know if the deleted Khan shower scene made it into the extended release of the movie?
 
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<- Supposed to be sexy?:wtf::ack:
 
Well, that's not the best pic I've seen of him, but yeah. The voice and personality add a lot, but for an older man, he has a nice body too.
 
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