Status of Vulcans in 32nd century

[Tim Thomason]

Why not, though? Odds are that they were the ones who introduced the word to Earth a couple of thousand years ago anyway.

I mean, Apollo we got from Apollo himself. The Platonians got their name from the Greeks in return - but the exchange probably was two-way. And Spock's great-great-ancestors used to travel a lot, and were habitual Adams and Eves from the sounds of it.

Timo Saloniemi

Too bad the timing is about a 1000 years off, or else we could assume the city of Rome was founded by settlers from Romulus and Remus.

 

[Timo]

How so? Vulcans were founding interstellar monasteries a thousand years before ol' Julius got stabbed: plenty of safety margin there for them having been the origin of the Romulus/Remus thing. (Presumably "Romulans" would have been a thing long before they left Vulcan to found their very own star empire, having been one of the many quarreling groups on the desert world originally, and quite possibly one of those responsible for the violent colonization period that might have touched upon Earth, too.)

But "timing" is an issue where I'd hope the events mentioned in Earth legends happened much earlier than the legends themselves suggest. We need time for the actual memory ("My second cousin was one of those serving in the flying house of this Apollo, and I suppose there was some hanky-panky, because her kid is, you know, weird. Very good at healing. But there was some argument about it, and lots of gunfire with those lightning rods of theirs. The boss man really is the violent sort!") to fade into myth ("Apollo begat Asclepius and then resurrected him after Zeus had killed him"). Preferably several centuries, but quite possibly millennia.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Nerys Myk]

No. But surely they don't actually call themselves that in their own language.

Seems odd that they wouldn’t, given they came to Earth and introduced themselves to humans and not the other way around. At first contact humans had no Idea what Vulcan was like.

 

[Tim Thomason]

How so? Vulcans were founding interstellar monasteries a thousand years before ol' Julius got stabbed: plenty of safety margin there for them having been the origin of the Romulus/Remus thing. (Presumably "Romulans" would have been a thing long before they left Vulcan to found their very own star empire, having been one of the many quarreling groups on the desert world originally, and quite possibly one of those responsible for the violent colonization period that might have touched upon Earth, too.)

But "timing" is an issue where I'd hope the events mentioned in Earth legends happened much earlier than the legends themselves suggest. We need time for the actual memory ("My second cousin was one of those serving in the flying house of this Apollo, and I suppose there was some hanky-panky, because her kid is, you know, weird. Very good at healing. But there was some argument about it, and lots of gunfire with those lightning rods of theirs. The boss man really is the violent sort!") to fade into myth ("Apollo begat Asclepius and then resurrected him after Zeus had killed him"). Preferably several centuries, but quite possibly millennia.

Timo Saloniemi

Maybe. Or maybe we can assume a certain level of Platonian-level influence here. Perhaps "those who marched beneath the Raptor's Wings" landed on a primitive blue planet about 16 light-years away when searching for a new home, and really liked the Roman Empire idea, but weren't too impressed by the overall Christianization going on, so they just took the best ideas and ran with it on a couple new worlds they colonized.

Vulcans were clearly named after Apollo's brother, who lived there for a time and helped them forge the first starships.

 

[Blue Squadron]

I wonder if they will call themselves Vromulans or Rulcans

I thought the accepted phrase was “green-blooded son of a...”

Or is that just the profession medical terminology...?

 

[Timo]

Maybe. Or maybe we can assume a certain level of Platonian-level influence here. Perhaps "those who marched beneath the Raptor's Wings" landed on a primitive blue planet about 16 light-years away when searching for a new home, and really liked the Roman Empire idea, but weren't too impressed by the overall Christianization going on, so they just took the best ideas and ran with it on a couple new worlds they colonized.

The one counterindication to that is that T'Pol knows these folks call themselves Romulans. Yet the official story is that after leaving in a huff, those folks never returned to Vulcan, or as much as dropped a word. Or a name.

Way to blow your cover there, T'Pol, if we assume there was post-separation contact. But perhaps this was inevitable in the situation.

Vulcans were clearly named after Apollo's brother, who lived there for a time and helped them forge the first starships.

Absolutely! And regardless of which way the name moved between those two players.

Timo Saloniemi