Statues in the last act of The Omega Glory
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@johnnybear: I'm still not seeing why you're not buying the Earth freighter theory. Even assuming that the Kohm really is as old as Tracey says he is - AND that Omega IV's years are anywhere near the same length as Earth's - that only means that the Yang/Kohm war was raging that long ago. It doesn't say how long the war lasted, in general. The war could have been such a hopeless stalemate that it really did last hundreds of years. And it does not preclude the freighter theory, not in the least.
The ECS Philadelphia still could have stumbled across Omega IV - in the latter years of a war that has lasted for almost a millennium - and not a stitch of canon would have been violated.
And I hate to keep bringing this up, but there really is no other explanation for how long those artifacts could have survived for over a thousand years, AND somehow turned up on an alien world. We all know they were originally created on Earth, after all. It's a matter of history, that everyone knows (or should know). And it's inconceivable that they could have arisen in identical forms somewhere else, thousands of years ago, with absolutely no connection with Earth! The laws of probability simply would not allow it.
And I hate to keep bringing this up, but there really is no other explanation for how long those artifacts could have survived for over a thousand years, AND somehow turned up on an alien world. We all know they were originally created on Earth, after all. It's a matter of history, that everyone knows (or should know). And it's inconceivable that they could have arisen in identical forms somewhere else, thousands of years ago, with absolutely no connection with Earth! The laws of probability simply would not allow it.
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If the Universe is infinite, extending beyond the visible as science currently says, then there would be an infinite number of planets, of which there would be a subset, also infinite, that are class-M, of which there would be a subset, also infinite, that are exact duplicates of the Earth. There would also be a subset of those class-Ms, also infinite, of near duplicates of the Earth, with the differences being trivial.
What would we would assume improbable would be several of those planets being so close together but there is nothing that says the distribution of said planets must be uniform. Star Trek's Milky Way has an overabundant share.
tl;dr version: "Impossible, yet there it is."
Personally, I have always been amused by the idea that Kirk's Earth (and by extension, ours) was the duplicate.
If the Universe is infinite, extending beyond the visible as science currently says, then there would be an infinite number of planets, of which there would be a subset, also infinite, that are class-M, of which there would be a subset, also infinite, that are exact duplicates of the Earth. There would also be a subset of those class-Ms, also infinite, of near duplicates of the Earth, with the differences being trivial.
What would we would assume improbable would be several of those planets being so close together but there is nothing that says the distribution of said planets must be uniform. Star Trek's Milky Way has an overabundant share.
tl;dr version: "Impossible, yet there it is."
Personally, I have always been amused by the idea that Kirk's Earth (and by extension, ours) was the duplicate.
How's this; Bell's Theorem states that there are a minimum of twelve alternate dimensions besides this one, and probably infinite. What if all the dimensions are identical insofar as they each and every one have every iteration of Earth/Vulcan/Kronos/whatever, and the actual difference is where they each are placed in the cosmos.
I feel the downside of this Parallel Earths thinking is that Trek doesn't really have those.
It has plenty of worlds inhabited by humans, yes, but none of them are Earths, that is, none are recognized as such by our heroes even when some parallels are revealed. Except for "Miri" - but that one does warrant a comment from the heroes, and clearly is a special case in the history of space exploration.
The Omega IV people have ended up being a bit like Earth in one narrow respect, by being completely unlike Earth in that very respect (the Commies and the Yankees did slug it out till the next war was fought with sticks and stones). That IMHO is the very antithesis of "Parallel Earth"!
Timo Saloniemi
It has plenty of worlds inhabited by humans, yes, but none of them are Earths, that is, none are recognized as such by our heroes even when some parallels are revealed. Except for "Miri" - but that one does warrant a comment from the heroes, and clearly is a special case in the history of space exploration.
The Omega IV people have ended up being a bit like Earth in one narrow respect, by being completely unlike Earth in that very respect (the Commies and the Yankees did slug it out till the next war was fought with sticks and stones). That IMHO is the very antithesis of "Parallel Earth"!
Timo Saloniemi
^How's this: if someone is that beautiful, you show a big image of them?
Good catch. You should probably report that post for that.
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