Starship design history in light of Discovery

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by INACTIVEUSS Einstein, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. fireproof78

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    Yeah. Everyone knows the NX-01 would be accepted if the writing was good. :guffaw:
     
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  2. cooleddie74

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    Every bit of this.
     
  3. Dukhat

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    I didn’t say it would be accepted. I said that it wouldn’t ‘fuck up’ the show. ENT didn’t fail because of the design of the ship.
     
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    Besides, didn't you mean the TOS-style Defiant and not the NX-class design?
     
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    Well, I'm pretty sure it "fucked up " the show, and would have even if it was good.
     
  7. Dukhat

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    I’m struggling to make sense of that statement. You seriously think the design of the NX-01 was the reason why ENT wasn’t a good show? I don’t like the design either, but I’m not that daft to think that was the reason why ENT failed.
     
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    If they'd made it a spherical primary hull and more like a Daedalus-class starship the "not cool enough" kids would have been setting fires to protest the series betraying 2001 audiences with an archaic design. The NX-01 is fine. It's not precisely how I'd have designed it but it's more than adequate.
     
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    I can see a line drawing of it with the plates in a revised Sternbach Chronology in my minds' eye
     
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    Not that. That even if the series was considered "good" the ship would be a "fuck up."
     
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    But that's not what you said.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    Ah, I see what I did. I misspoke. Apologies.
     
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    I admit, I've always found Fuller's directive that DIS ships couldn't have round nacelles to be rather odd. Was there ever any specific context for that decision, or was it mainly just a personal opinion of his? I'm genuinely curious.
     
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    I think it was just his personal tastes just to shake things up for the sake of shaking things up.
     
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    That was my impression as well. The unnecessarily strange and distracting look of the Klingons and their ships were other Fuller brain-children, stemming from a similar requirement of change for the sake of change.
     
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    No in-universe logic, just...he was the showrunner so he did it because he could.
     
  17. fireproof78

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    Nope. Just variety.

    It works.
     
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    I would have liked them as Hur’q vessels
     
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    John Eaves tried to head-canon it as being necessary for whatever this new drive was.
    He wasn't given full plot details when designing the ships, all he knew was there was a new experimental drive of some sort, so he had to come up with his own reasons why things looked the way they did.
     
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    not really the only thing it proved is that the 1966 stuff is outdated and goofy and shouldn't be part of a modern production but obviously we're not going to agree with this lol
     
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