Star wars: rebel alliance and droid army?
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I think it's an interesting idea. I hope someone addresses it in a comic or novel one day. I could say that it might have been a money issue, plus they might not have had the factories to produce them. Then again, where did all those X-wings and other ships come from?
I think it's an interesting idea. I hope someone addresses it in a comic or novel one day. I could say that it might have been a money issue, plus they might not have had the factories to produce them. Then again, where did all those X-wings and other ships come from?
There's anti-droid prejudice in the galaxy, even 20 years after the Seperatist invasions. The Rebels want to liberate the galaxy, to gather popular support. Building droid armies would be too reminiscent of the dark days of the Clone Wars.
Even the Empire doesn't use droids for combat purposes besides probe droids. (Extended Universe aside). Private droid armies were likely banned, the Trade Federation battle droids scrapped.
Even the Empire doesn't use droids for combat purposes besides probe droids. (Extended Universe aside). Private droid armies were likely banned, the Trade Federation battle droids scrapped.
The clone army was turned against them easily, perhaps they did not want another army even easier to re-program.
I'm sure the Emperor made sure the droid army was eliminated in one way or another, to prevent them being used agaist him. He had already started by having Anikin kill the seperatist leaders and having the droid units shut down. Im sure the clone troopers cleaned all the battle droids up right after Episode III.
A droid army costs lots and lots of money. Not to mention it would probably much harder to try to build one in Palpatine's Empire as opposed to Palpatine's Republic if you get my meaning.
The clones and droids were a way for both sides to fight a war and not get themselves killed in the process. It kind of reminds me of what Kirk said about those two planets fighting a computer war for 500 years.
The clones and droids were a way for both sides to fight a war and not get themselves killed in the process. It kind of reminds me of what Kirk said about those two planets fighting a computer war for 500 years.
The Rebel Alliance was cash poor and made do with cobbled together ships and surplus military equipment. The Confederacy of Independent Systems was comprised of insanely wealthy corporations. Vast difference between the two organizations.
Also droid armies are not known for their ability to think and to improvise. The only reason the droid armies were such a threat during the Clone Wars was that the CIS owned so goddamned many of them and were constantly manufacturing more. They won their battles through overwhelming force. The Rebel Alliance won theirs on pure balls... and the rare Jedi Padawan.
Also droid armies are not known for their ability to think and to improvise. The only reason the droid armies were such a threat during the Clone Wars was that the CIS owned so goddamned many of them and were constantly manufacturing more. They won their battles through overwhelming force. The Rebel Alliance won theirs on pure balls... and the rare Jedi Padawan.
Yeah, smacks of cowardice on both sides. If you have a political system that's worth anything at all, why isn't anyone willing to fight for it?
Which is okay for the bad guys, just a bunch of evil corporate dickheads who have no option but to build themselves a military of mindless slaves, but it sure doesn't make the Republic look very good.
And now The Clone Wars is trying to tell us that the Seppys were more than just a bunch of evil corporate dickheads, too. Eh, both sides deserved to lose.
Well it was a sham war. The real war was between the Jedi and the Sith and they did die for their beliefs.
Yeah it looked like the Jedi plus Palps & his apprentice du jour were the only one at all invested in the fighting, who had the free will to make a choice. I gotta wonder why none of the Jedi looked around and asked themselves, "why do I bother?" I sure would have. 
But once again, The Clone Wars does give a different impression from the movies, by depicting loyal planets with local populations that fight for the Republic, on their own planets, with the Republic forces serving as a kind of Navy/Marines component. The locals just don't hop on board a spaceship to go fight on other people's planets, which is reasonable enough. Just defending your own planet seems like a big enough job.
The way the Seppy's have been portrayed, I expect to see populations of Seppy planets that are also willing to take part in the battles. The way TCW has portrayed the Republic, the Seppy's have good reasons for being disgruntled and they're all not just greedy capitalists who want a free hand to exploit the galaxy.
All in all, TCW isn't portraying a sham war so much as a real war, with plausible causes, that Palps took advantage of, for his own ends.
But once again, The Clone Wars does give a different impression from the movies, by depicting loyal planets with local populations that fight for the Republic, on their own planets, with the Republic forces serving as a kind of Navy/Marines component. The locals just don't hop on board a spaceship to go fight on other people's planets, which is reasonable enough. Just defending your own planet seems like a big enough job.
The way the Seppy's have been portrayed, I expect to see populations of Seppy planets that are also willing to take part in the battles. The way TCW has portrayed the Republic, the Seppy's have good reasons for being disgruntled and they're all not just greedy capitalists who want a free hand to exploit the galaxy.
All in all, TCW isn't portraying a sham war so much as a real war, with plausible causes, that Palps took advantage of, for his own ends.
The X-Wings were initially a contender for the main imperial fighter force but the engineers "liberated" the plans and defected to the rebellion before an official decision had been made.
In the early days almost all X-Wings were mainly handcrafted by engineers and technicians in backyard workshops and there were very few of them. Only after the Rebellion gained momentum did they also gain the financial means to produce them in an industrial kind of way (though still through backchannels and not proper, public factories).
Bigger ships were either cobbled together/repaired or converted from civilian use. I don't believe the Rebellion had dedicated military ship designs of their own until later in the Rebellion where they started to introduce the A and B-Wing designs which replaced the aging Y-Wing as the standard bomber.
As to the droid army idea.. it''s been basically said here. Too expensive and complex to build and maintain for a guerilla organisation.
Exactly. They want to fight a war but don't want to deal with any of the suffering or get their own hands dirty. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
Even though the war was a sham, I thought the general perception was that the Republic was battling the Seperatists, which were made up of all the corrupt trade and commerce guilds that had corrupted the Republic itself. But the cartoon really muddied the water by saying that the Trade Federation and Commerce Guilds were still apart of the Republic and actively trading to both sides. It still makes no sense to me and further gives the impression that the Republic was really not worth fighting for.
TCW's story about the war is that there was real substance to the fight, that had nothing to do with Jedi vs Sith. The Republic really was corrupt (and TCW made us sit through boring episodes about corruption, simply to validate that point - they certainly weren't entertaining in their own right) and the Seppys, at least the ones who had honest motives, were fed up with the situation.
Maybe a whole galaxy is just too large and diverse for any single government to ever work. It does sound unreasonable when you think about it. Anyway, the Trade Federation presumably recognized an opportunity in joining the Seppys for their own gain (or rather, making money off both sides), and Palps did likewise.
The Jedi reflexively sided with the Republic, on the possibly valid assumption that the corruption was not so bad that it couldn't be solved. But there's no real evidence to back up that assumption. The Jedi have never been depicted as politically savvy enough to make that assessment. They seem to be fighting for the status quo simply because it is the status quo.
Maybe the point of TCW is to raise all these questions and then start to address them in the coming season. Introducing Lux as a character, who isn't on either side at this point, is a step in that direction. We're not expected to accept either side as obviously right or wrong. Palps and the greedy Trade Federation are obviously wrong of course, but there's more to it than that.
Setting aside the players with economic motives, or Jedi-vs-Sith, and just looking at those with political motives, it's impossible to say for sure which side is right. The Seppys cannot be blamed if a Sith used their legitimate movement for his own ends, without their knowledge, and that is not evidence that they were wrong.
Maybe a whole galaxy is just too large and diverse for any single government to ever work. It does sound unreasonable when you think about it. Anyway, the Trade Federation presumably recognized an opportunity in joining the Seppys for their own gain (or rather, making money off both sides), and Palps did likewise.
The Jedi reflexively sided with the Republic, on the possibly valid assumption that the corruption was not so bad that it couldn't be solved. But there's no real evidence to back up that assumption. The Jedi have never been depicted as politically savvy enough to make that assessment. They seem to be fighting for the status quo simply because it is the status quo.
Maybe the point of TCW is to raise all these questions and then start to address them in the coming season. Introducing Lux as a character, who isn't on either side at this point, is a step in that direction. We're not expected to accept either side as obviously right or wrong. Palps and the greedy Trade Federation are obviously wrong of course, but there's more to it than that.
Setting aside the players with economic motives, or Jedi-vs-Sith, and just looking at those with political motives, it's impossible to say for sure which side is right. The Seppys cannot be blamed if a Sith used their legitimate movement for his own ends, without their knowledge, and that is not evidence that they were wrong.
the X-Wings weren't hand-crafted. that was A-Wings.
the X-Wings were built by Incom engineers when they defected. the Alliance's ships were either defectors, from Rebel worlds own navies or war booty, captured from the Imps.
the X-Wings were built by Incom engineers when they defected. the Alliance's ships were either defectors, from Rebel worlds own navies or war booty, captured from the Imps.
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