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Star Trek XI: Soundtrack

lalorm

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Any thoughts on which composer you would like to see compose the score for this film?

I think that the soundtrack should remain true to that in the original series. Not just the opening credits by Alexander Courage, but the entire score.

Any thoughts on this?
 
lalorm said:

I think that the soundtrack should remain true to that in the original series. Not just the opening credits by Alexander Courage, but the entire score.

Any thoughts on this?

Yeah that could work... if it were 1967! Its 2007 however, so I think they should go with something a little more contemporary! I would like to hear something that has a Star Trek feel to it but I don't think the producers of this movie should restrict the composer to what has gone before.
 
Sure, I mean I don't want a mono soundtrack or anything. I'm thinking something like what they did for the score of Superman Returns. They took the original score, and created a very good soundtrack that every now and then brings in a well known theme from the original film to give the film a 'Superman movie' feel.

So my choice for composer would be John Ottman for the work he did on the Superman Returns soundtrack.

Have a listern to the samples here...
http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Returns-John-Ottman/dp/B000FMGTTE
 
lalorm said:
Sure, I mean I don't want a mono soundtrack or anything. I'm thinking something like what they did for the score of Superman Returns. They took the original score, and created a very good soundtrack that every now and then brings in a well known theme from the original film to give the film a 'Superman movie' feel.

So my choice for composer would be John Ottman for the work he did on the Superman Returns soundtrack.

Have a listern to the samples here...
http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Returns-John-Ottman/dp/B000FMGTTE

Yeah I could accept something along those lines and I wouldn't have any objection to the Alexander Courage theme being used as an inspiration. I'm just not so sure about using the episode soundtracks as an influence. Don't get me wrong TOS had some good music in it, but whenever I think of it I can't help recalling some of the more embarrassing music used in comedic moments!
 
Overall, I want something grand and of a bigger scale than TOS music, but I also want to hear lots and lots of familiar themes and cues... the musical touchstones should be there. There should be moments that feel just like TOS and others where I'm blown away by the scope and scale of the music.
 
I would like music that is overly dramatic that 'floats'. This can be accomplished by the use of figurations and dissonant whole tone or chromatic polytonality whenever possible.
 
dalehoppert said:
Overall, I want something grand and of a bigger scale than TOS music, but I also want to hear lots and lots of familiar themes and cues... the musical touchstones should be there. There should be moments that feel just like TOS and others where I'm blown away by the scope and scale of the music.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

The same, but "scaled up." :)
 
John Ottman is a brilliant composer, who proved with his score for Superman Returns that he can take famous existing themes and extrapolate them in a magnificent way. Of course, if Bryan Singer were directing, Ottman would be composing and editing, but since Michael Giacchino (Lost, Alias, Mission: Impossible III) is J.J. Abrams' right-hand man when it comes to scoring, he's the man to do the job for Abrams' Star Trek.

Not that I don't admire Giacchino -- his work for M:i-III was absolutely terrific, and one of my favorite scores for last year. I think he'll do a great job at adapting Alexander Courage's iconic theme and much like Ottman did for Superman updating Courage's work while also paying homage to what made it so successful in the first place.
 
JacksonArcher said:
John Ottman is a brilliant composer, who proved with his score for Superman Returns that he can take famous existing themes and extrapolate them in a magnificent way. Of course, if Bryan Singer were directing, Ottman would be composing and editing, but since Michael Giacchino (Lost, Alias, Mission: Impossible III) is J.J. Abrams' right-hand man when it comes to scoring, he's the man to do the job for Abrams' Star Trek.

Not that I don't admire Giacchino -- his work for M:i-III was absolutely terrific, and one of my favorite scores for last year. I think he'll do a great job at adapting Alexander Courage's iconic theme and much like Ottman did for Superman updating Courage's work while also paying homage to what made it so successful in the first place.
I agree with everything you just said, except for a small "lie of omission." (Sorry, not calling you a liar... just using a slang term!)

Most people neglect the other outstanding thematic work done for Trek... Sol Kaplan's stuff in particular is every bit as iconically "Star Trek" to me as anything Courage wrote... and has been sorely neglected for far too long, IMHO. I'd REALLY like to hear a revisitation of Kaplan's "Kirk's Command" fanfare... you know, the OTHER "Star Trek Fanfare" with the high brass hit, followed by two lowering notes, then up and down a few times slightly faster... something that says "Star Trek" to me more than anything Courage or Goldsmith or Horner or anyone else ever wrote.

You can hear it for the first time in "Charlie X," by the way...
 
^I'm sure Giacchino will extensively revisit the musical continuity of Star Trek in his preparation for his role as composer, much like Roberto Orci, Zachary Quinto and nearly every other member of the production has done.
 
I demand punk-rock, indi music for the soundtrack by bands no one has ever heard of nor will hear of again for the movie. If it doesn't have this, I'm boycotting the movie!

;)
 
Cary L. Brown said:

Sol Kaplan's stuff in particular is every bit as iconically "Star Trek" to me as anything Courage wrote... and has been sorely neglected for far too long, IMHO. I'd REALLY like to hear a revisitation of Kaplan's "Kirk's Command" fanfare... you know, the OTHER "Star Trek Fanfare" with the high brass hit, followed by two lowering notes, then up and down a few times slightly faster... something that says "Star Trek" to me more than anything Courage or Goldsmith or Horner or anyone else ever wrote.

You can hear it for the first time in "Charlie X," by the way...

Wasn't that by Fred Steiner?
 
xortex said:
I would like music that is overly dramatic that 'floats'. This can be accomplished by the use of figurations and dissonant whole tone or chromatic polytonality whenever possible.
What does that mean in English? :D
 
aridas sofia said:
Cary L. Brown said:

Sol Kaplan's stuff in particular is every bit as iconically "Star Trek" to me as anything Courage wrote... and has been sorely neglected for far too long, IMHO. I'd REALLY like to hear a revisitation of Kaplan's "Kirk's Command" fanfare... you know, the OTHER "Star Trek Fanfare" with the high brass hit, followed by two lowering notes, then up and down a few times slightly faster... something that says "Star Trek" to me more than anything Courage or Goldsmith or Horner or anyone else ever wrote.

You can hear it for the first time in "Charlie X," by the way...

Wasn't that by Fred Steiner?
You're absolutely right, I stand corrected... that's what I get for posting after a design review day... brain-fried. ;)

Yep, Fred Steiner. Sol Kaplan wrote some OTHER good stuff, but it was Steiner I meanted to say. Thanks, Aridas. :)
 
Jack Bauer said:
xortex said:
I would like music that is overly dramatic that 'floats'. This can be accomplished by the use of figurations and dissonant whole tone or chromatic polytonality whenever possible.
What does that mean in English? :D

Well, in the same way the writers don't know what metaphysics is, the composer is not going to know what the hell I'm talking about either. The TOS music was very complex harmonically in an unapoligetically rugged American style and there was shades of Stravinsky and Prokofiev but alot of it was feel good music too.
 
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