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Star Trek: The Next Series, The Fans, and The Truth

You left out one of the key factors: The general audience.

Nobody is going to produce a new STAR TREK series just for "the fan base."
 
^Not to mention that producing a series just for the fanbase is an impossibility, as what one fan wants is going to be completely different than what another fan wants.

And to answer the OP's question:

Has it occurred to anybody at all, that CBS knows the fans want a Star Trek TV series? Has the possibility that CBS would actually love to make a new Star Trek TV series occurred to anybody?

Whether CBS knows that fans want a new Trek series is irrelevant, because they already have highly rated shows now that are much cheaper to produce than a Trek series. If they'd love to make a new Trek series, they'd be making one now.
 
Has the possibility that CBS would actually love to make a new Star Trek TV series occurred to anybody?
You know what businesses "love" to invest in? Projects that present a positive net present value investment.

As Dukhat said, if CBS would "love" to do a Star Trek show, you would know about it, because it would be either on air already or in development. CBS Corporation is a +15 billion Dollar revenue business, rest assured that very smart professionals are looking at whether or not a Star Trek project fits their portfolio and presents a positive investment.
 
Every day on Facebook, on message boards, wherever, I see fans who desperately want a new TV series. They hold out hope that "CBS Paramount", "Paramount", "CBS", "Netflix", "Fan Production/CBSBackdoor Pilot", or "Combination of all of those" will give them a new Star Trek TV Series.

They have even held out the idea that a fan campaign to either re-start Enterprise on Netflix or even the old Star Trek tradition of a letter writing campaign will convince the studios to give the fans/public the Star Trek TV series that they want so much.

Has it occurred to anybody at all, that CBS knows the fans want a Star Trek TV series? Has the possibility that CBS would actually love to make a new Star Trek TV series occurred to anybody?

Moving forward with this discussion it might help to review who some of the players are (only their current roles matter, all pre-split Viacom sell-off roles are invalid).


Paramount Pictures: Retains certain rights over a feature film franchise using the name, and IP called Star Trek - but must pay a license fee to the controlling entity of Star Trek; CBS.

CBS: The Owner and Controlling Entity of the IP known as Star Trek.

Netflix: Internet Streaming Service with a close relationship with CBS.

Trekkies: Star Trek's Fan Base.

Fan Producers: This includes the makers of Fan Films that hope to sell their project as a backdoor pilot (NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN).


Ok, so with that out of the way I feel a productive (and very serious) discussion regarding the difficulties of a new Star Trek TV production can happen.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to state the obvious? The fans know all this?
 
Every day on Facebook, on message boards, wherever, I see fans who desperately want a new TV series. They hold out hope that "CBS Paramount", "Paramount", "CBS", "Netflix", "Fan Production/CBSBackdoor Pilot", or "Combination of all of those" will give them a new Star Trek TV Series.

They have even held out the idea that a fan campaign to either re-start Enterprise on Netflix or even the old Star Trek tradition of a letter writing campaign will convince the studios to give the fans/public the Star Trek TV series that they want so much.

Has it occurred to anybody at all, that CBS knows the fans want a Star Trek TV series? Has the possibility that CBS would actually love to make a new Star Trek TV series occurred to anybody?

Moving forward with this discussion it might help to review who some of the players are (only their current roles matter, all pre-split Viacom sell-off roles are invalid).


Paramount Pictures: Retains certain rights over a feature film franchise using the name, and IP called Star Trek - but must pay a license fee to the controlling entity of Star Trek; CBS.

CBS: The Owner and Controlling Entity of the IP known as Star Trek.

Netflix: Internet Streaming Service with a close relationship with CBS.

Trekkies: Star Trek's Fan Base.

Fan Producers: This includes the makers of Fan Films that hope to sell their project as a backdoor pilot (NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN).


Ok, so with that out of the way I feel a productive (and very serious) discussion regarding the difficulties of a new Star Trek TV production can happen.

Obvious post states the obvious.
 
If people want to shout into the wind for what they want, that's their prerogative. It would be best for them to know what the reasonable odds are that they'll get what they want or how to go about exerting influence, though. I can't help but think of Linus and the Great Pumpkin. Beyond a certain point, hoping/praying/expecting something to happen when it obviously isn't going to happen is a real waste of energy. (I've been down that road. I know.) But everyone has their own idea of when something crosses over to being a lost-cause.
 
So, Paramount (and probably J.J. Abrams) are the villain of this piece?

I'm curious what you do in the "industry of Star Trek"
 
Really? "The villain of this piece"? There are no mustache twirling villains here.

Over dramatic much?
 
Really? "The villain of this piece"? There are no mustache twirling villains here.

Over dramatic much?
Well you are being a little bit ridiculous. Less games, more insider knowledge. if you have it.

If this is just about the tangle of legalities surrounding the new and old Trek franchises, we already know about that. It was spelled out at the Shore Leave con with regard to the novels not being allowed to feature elements created for the movies - which has them in somewhat of a bind since they're almost caught up with the flashforward scenes of ST'09.

If it's that TPTB want the movies to run their course without TV Trek competition, that makes sense and is fairly straightforward - why pay $10 to see Star Trek when you can just wait for next week's free episode?
 
Not at all.
It's how I react when I'm prevented by actual contractual commitments from stating anything as fact.

Starting this conversation was ill advised as I'm limited in what I can say. The real take way from all this should be however that I'm tired of all of the fan's conjecture of why they don't have a new series to watch and finger pointing in the direction of CBS, or the idea that some other entity will create new Star Trek. So wrong, but it was just as wrong to think that I could educate anybody when I can't actually give up everything that I know. The situation is extremely frustrating, but at the end of the day it's best if this topic just went away and so I deleted my comments, and have asked the board's adms to delete the thread.

And that's an end.
 
"Prevented by actual contractual commitments from stating anything as fact?" What? Your OP was just stuff that most of us already knew. Yeah, people here bitch and complain that there's no ST on TV right now. And they'll continue to bitch when it is on TV. Not sure what your point was. But whatever.
 
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