Star Trek : Survival
- Thread starter Brainsucker
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Coming up with an idea, no matter how interesting, cannot be a Star Trek idea just by slapping "Star Trek" on it. If you want to pursue this idea, then make up a new backdrop that isn't necessarily ST.
On the other hand, if you want to explore what it is like for Federation civilians, why not try focusing your story (or series) on the families or civilian crew on board a Starfleet ship. It doesn't have to be the Enterprise. You could use another Federation starship with the Starfleet officers as background characters.
Just a thought.
On the other hand, if you want to explore what it is like for Federation civilians, why not try focusing your story (or series) on the families or civilian crew on board a Starfleet ship. It doesn't have to be the Enterprise. You could use another Federation starship with the Starfleet officers as background characters.
Just a thought.
Coming up with an idea, no matter how interesting, cannot be a Star Trek idea just by slapping "Star Trek" on it. If you want to pursue this idea, then make up a new backdrop that isn't necessarily ST.
On the other hand, if you want to explore what it is like for Federation civilians, why not try focusing your story (or series) on the families or civilian crew on board a Starfleet ship. It doesn't have to be the Enterprise. You could use another Federation starship with the Starfleet officers as background characters.
Just a thought.
The bold one :
Why should I do that? First, I'm not a screen writer, just a Star Trek Fan. Second, if I'm a screen writer and have that kind of Idea, why should I write that here? Should I just send a proposal to CBS or something instead of this forum? Do I need to make my idea stolen by another writer?
Because of my status as a Star Trek Fan, and writing an idea in Star Trek forum then I use "Star Trek" as it's title. Or... can I write an idea without "Star Trek" as the title in this forum? Isn't that just trolling around?
No offense, mate, but there's no way CBS would even read through your proposal with English like yours.
Dude, if you can't take the least bit of criticism, then you shouldn't be writing anything at all.
No one thinks you're a screenwriter. No one's telling you to be a screenwriter. People are just giving you constructive criticism about what you wrote for the fact that you wrote it at all and posted it here. I mean, if you didn't want anyone to comment on your idea, why didn't you just say that?
The "I'm not a screenwriter" defense doesn't exactly give your ideas legitimacy.
I'm not a television executive, but I'm pretty sure networks don't pick shows by reading through random one-page concepts.
I'm not a television executive, but I'm pretty sure networks don't pick shows by reading through random one-page concepts.
That's why I'm not a screen writer, just a fan like yourself. English is not even my second language. I don't talk English everyday. I even have forget the grammar that I have learnt from school. I'm from Asia btw.
Well, I open to any criticism. That why after someone say that this idea has already implemented to a series called Firefly, I drop it. But please, let me tell you something, that people see Star Trek from different perspective. If, you see Star Trek as a series of a team of Bridge Star Fleet Officers in a big Star Ship that do exploration and diplomacy on a optimism world, I see Star Trek from different view of point. I don't think that I'm alone in this matter. For me, Star Trek is everything that happen in Star Trek universe.
But, maybe it is all about preference.
Just... please don't force your preference to any idea. You can say that it is not your preference because of it's lack of your version of Star Trek. You can even say suggest your own idea. But telling it as not Star Trek is just a pierce to my heart of a fellow Star Trek Fan. You just tell me that I'm not enough of a fan because I don't see star Trek from the same point of view of yours.
So peace man
I don't defend my idea as I have officially drop it (look at my previous post). Previous poster has tell me that the idea didn't work, so I think it won't work.
the bold one : everyone can only hope a miracle
But, have fun. We are in "The Future of Trek" Forum. Everyone can dream, even if the sixth series can only be realized far after our time.For the screen writer defend, well, just take me easy. Don't hard to me.
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Firefly was very good and had terrific potential. Don't fret about re-using an idea used on another show. Half the shows on TV now are cop shows, so obviously professionals don't let such considerations hinder them.
However, Firefly's premise isn't necessarily right for Star Trek. There are all kinds of space opera ideas that might be perfectly good for a non-Star Trek show, but wrong for Star Trek.
I'm sure you're giving CBS too much credit. If the script had JJ Abrams name on it, it could be written in crayon and they'd greenlight it.
The real hold-up is that CBS wouldn't give a flip about a space opera show. It doesn't fit their demographic, they are doing great with 75% cop shows/25% sitcoms and reality TV, there's no reason for them to think they need a sci fi show of any type. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Go ahead, the results will be precisely the same either way.
Nope, that's far too broad. That would destroy the unique identity of Star Trek, and I certainly hope the people who are actually in charge of Star Trek understand how it needs to be defined (and I think they do, so I'm not worried there.)
Star Trek is simple when you get to the core: it's a Western. It's not about the Federation - which is why stories rarely focus on the Federation - but about the frontiers of the Federation. It's about Starfleet playing space cop and space solider on the dangerous frontier, and exploring beyond the frontier. As the borders of the Federation expand, the area where Star Trek takes place also expands.
Since this is a lawless frontier, it stands to reason that the people with the phasers are the main characters of the story. That doesn't preclude non-Fed aliens and civilians from having important roles, or even the idea of a non-Starfleet story, but in that case, the absence of Starfleet would itself be a factor in the story, because what are the people going to do if there's no sheriff in town?
I envision Star Trek as a big, roundish black hole labelled FEDERATION where we never go, because it's paradise and paradise is a big fat bore. There are squiggly yellow and red lines around the circumference of the hole, with some tendrils shooting off in all directions, which indicate danger, action and interesting things. The squiggly lines are where all of Star Trek happens. Stick to the squiggly lines and you'll be okay.
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If the script had JJ Abrams name on it, it could be written in crayon and they'd greenlight it.
right you are
Oh, I just realize it as I'm not live in United States. So I don't understand about the TV Studio behavior there. In my country, Star Trek is not that popular, maybe because of the different culture. That's why Star Trek is a rare item that is exciting to be hunted.
Luckily, my friend just go to foreign country and get Star Trek Enterprise, so I can buy it from him.
On topic to the quote area : Well, then I guess you're right. it is about of space cop and the terrorists / dictators. But I enjoy it. Okay, now I understand. So when my brain is tickled with new ideas, I will write it to this forum again
To Brainsucker:
I didn't mean to criticize, just pointing out what I thought were a couple of flaws in your premise. There was merit in your idea, it simply wasn't exactly Star Trek. I saw a way to make it ST, but did not realize you only wanted to throw out ideas and let someone else follow through on them. If it doesn't matter to you, I might like to take your core idea of civilians in ST and write something of my own.
And, if you're not already doing it, you may want to put your ideas out to the fans in the Fan Fiction forum for consideration as a project for one of them.
To Temis the Vorta:
You're right that, in the beginning, Star Trek was a western (or Wagon Train in space, as Roddenberry presented it to network executives). But ST has grown over the years to encompass a huge tapestry that includes the civilized and uncivilized stretches of the Federation. It doesn't have to be "the lawless frontier" anymore. (That's Firefly.) There have been stories about the core planets of the Federation, as well as at the far reaches of Federation space and beyond. It can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you adhere to the boundaries that Roddenberry and his successors have established. Which aren't as restrictive as some people would have you think.
As always, IMHO.
I didn't mean to criticize, just pointing out what I thought were a couple of flaws in your premise. There was merit in your idea, it simply wasn't exactly Star Trek. I saw a way to make it ST, but did not realize you only wanted to throw out ideas and let someone else follow through on them. If it doesn't matter to you, I might like to take your core idea of civilians in ST and write something of my own.
And, if you're not already doing it, you may want to put your ideas out to the fans in the Fan Fiction forum for consideration as a project for one of them.
To Temis the Vorta:
You're right that, in the beginning, Star Trek was a western (or Wagon Train in space, as Roddenberry presented it to network executives). But ST has grown over the years to encompass a huge tapestry that includes the civilized and uncivilized stretches of the Federation. It doesn't have to be "the lawless frontier" anymore. (That's Firefly.) There have been stories about the core planets of the Federation, as well as at the far reaches of Federation space and beyond. It can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you adhere to the boundaries that Roddenberry and his successors have established. Which aren't as restrictive as some people would have you think.
As always, IMHO.
To Brainsucker:
I didn't mean to criticize, just pointing out what I thought were a couple of flaws in your premise. There was merit in your idea, it simply wasn't exactly Star Trek. I saw a way to make it ST, but did not realize you only wanted to throw out ideas and let someone else follow through on them. If it doesn't matter to you, I might like to take your core idea of civilians in ST and write something of my own.
And, if you're not already doing it, you may want to put your ideas out to the fans in the Fan Fiction forum for consideration as a project for one of them.
To Temis the Vorta:
You're right that, in the beginning, Star Trek was a western (or Wagon Train in space, as Roddenberry presented it to network executives). But ST has grown over the years to encompass a huge tapestry that includes the civilized and uncivilized stretches of the Federation. It doesn't have to be "the lawless frontier" anymore. (That's Firefly.) There have been stories about the core planets of the Federation, as well as at the far reaches of Federation space and beyond. It can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you adhere to the boundaries that Roddenberry and his successors have established. Which aren't as restrictive as some people would have you think.
As always, IMHO.
Oh, it doesn't matter for me
