Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x05 - "Charades"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Commander Richard, Jul 11, 2023.

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  1. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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  2. Donald G

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    There are times when it is perfectly appropriate to ask to speak to the manager in an attempt to resolve an issue. Doing so does not automatically make a white woman a "Karen."

    Karens do so in a belligerent manner and make unreasonable demands to establish dominance over "the help." Chapel did not behave in the manner of a Karen.

    Nuance and context, how do they work?
     
  3. fireproof78

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    Terribly. I need it spelled out painfully.

    Sincerely,

    10 year retail manager veteran.
     
  4. Nerys Myk

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    I'm also a veteran retail manger. People often came in and asked for the associate who previously helped them. I had people seeking me out for book recommendations.
     
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  5. Yistaan

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    Vulcans aren't admirable because their whole society never seems to think that there may be alternatives rather than an unhealthy suppression of emotion. In some ways they're Trek's version of the Jedi. They have good PR but when you see what they do to their young people it starts looking really questionable.

    T'Pring's day job is basically forcibly removing emotions from Sybok. You probably could make a Vulcan horror story out of it.
     
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  6. KamenRiderBlade

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    You'd probably have a seperate grill for Vegetarians to cook with.
     
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  7. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Riker said that (all?) humans in the 24th century are Vegetarians.

    What about 23rd?

    Maybe Vulcans are such assholes, that they put up a pretentiousness stink about lowering themselves to eat vegetables that look like meat... Or they are so dumb that they that they think that Earth vegetables that look like meat is real meat.

    A simple misunderstanding that comes from being a presumptuous tossing prig.
     
  8. Amaris

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    Very much so. I try to take Gene as a very human man who had wonderful ideas, powerful dreams of a humanity that was free economically, socially, scientifically, and sexually, to explore the human condition.

    In reality, he was a horny, lecherous, fairly greedy man, but that was his baser human nature which clashed with his idealism, and I do believe he really tried to be better than he was, but like all humans he would crash to earth and make things worse for the people around him, including and especially the people he cared about.
     
  9. Nerys Myk

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    He makes exceptions for bunicorn pizza.
     
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  10. Yistaan

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    He might have been even worse than that. Some fans who read Grace Lee Whitney's autobiography think he might have been the unnamed executive who attacked her, but admittedly it was never proven either way.
     
  11. josiephine

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    Mirror Tuvok :lol:
     
  12. Captain Jollydark

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    I didn't want to say it because she never says, but he was my first thought, though in all honesty, there were a lot of executive producers back then, wandering around looking for prey.
     
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  13. Amaris

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    True, that one can read the description of her assailant and say "could have been Gene" really doesn't speak well of him. I sincerely hope it's not true, but I don't think we'll ever know.

    That said, Gene did sleep with Grace Lee Whitney, Majel Barrett, and Nichelle Nichols, according to their respective biographies, and I have no reason to doubt them. Gene's ideas were wonderful, his hope for humanity powerful, but he sure did love to take advantage of people in the here and now. :(
     
  14. KamenRiderBlade

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    That's news to me, eating replicated meat = Vegetarian?
     
  15. Amaris

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    It would qualify as vegetarian if the meat has not been procured by the exploitation of an animal. There are some who certainly wouldn't eat it, but ethical vegetarians should have no issue with it.
     
  16. Captain Jollydark

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    I gotta say, I think your read on what she does is not accurate. I don't know what's up with Sybok or that she even knows who he really is. (Hope she finds out). From what I understand, the place she works is for Vulcan criminals who want to be rehabilitated (returned to logic). It's an alternative to a prison that might not meet their cultural needs re: rehabilitation. It's not for Vulcans who've merely rejected logic as a guiding principle. (Although I'm sure those people don't get the good jobs.)
     
  17. Guy Gardener

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    Right at the beginning almost.

    TNG The Lonely Among Us.

    Synthisizers vs. REPLICATORS.

    That quote, not only is it meat, but its the same meat day after day, year after year.

    Ironically... Will, as a transporter accident himself, just successfully lawyered himself out of his human rights, which is what he failed to do to Data in Mesure of a Man.

    He's batting .500
     
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  18. Mr Awe

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    I love T'Pring in SNW. Not only is she downright hot, but she's an interesting, intelligent character. And, yes, I can totally see her becoming the T'Pring we see in Amok Time.

    In addition to the cool stories, one of the things I like about SNW is how it provides backstories to things we see in TOS. Like M'Benga suggesting that Spock plays the instrument. So far the backstory for Spock and T'Pring has been a joy to watch.
     
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    Sarek, Taurik, Selar, T'Pan in TNG, Tuvok and Vorik in VOY. Those were the ones we saw over the years, and then ENT showed the 'bad' ones. That's why they seemed so different.

    That ceiling decoration is amazing!
     
  20. Mr Awe

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    Agreed that it was entertaining from start to finish. But I found the manner in which it was entertaining was interesting itself. It started as kind of a goofball episode with Spock suddenly being human. Plenty of humor. And even the trans-dimensional aliens were a bit goofy. All fine for a comedy episode.

    But then it switched gears a bit and got emotionally deep, first with Spock and his mother and then with Christine. Smooth transition that worked.

    So, entertaining from beginning to end but different from beginning to end too. :techman:
     
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