Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by trekker670, May 21, 2013.

  1. Kemaiku

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    It gets destroyed during the Angel incident, they build the Cage 1701 before Kirk gets it and pretend it's always been the same ship. :shifty:
     
  2. thribs

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    It’s because you can customise your ships in STO so that it has all that unnecessary nonsense on them.
     
  3. Kemaiku

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    Sort of. Starship Creator (an old game) had tonnes of variations you could make, but ST:O wanted to kind of have that as a throwback, and couldn't. Each class has 3-5 pre-programmed appearances with minor colour/skin changes apart from that.
     
  4. 137th Gebirg

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    ^^^ Yep. This.
     
  5. Tuskin38

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    That must have before they got their current lead ship artist and started revamping those models.

    Here's some images of their revamped, a new (canon) ship models since the new guy took over

    https://imgur.com/a/hjNSPRP

    They are running on an engine that’s over 10 years old, and have a low polygon budget and a single texture sheet, but they do great work with those limits.
     
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    Well, I can see you've already made your mind up about the game, but I don't think any of that is necessarily true. As for your hands on experience with the game, lots of players are on low or reduced settings. Even on max, the game can feel dated. For a ten year old game, I think most of the modern ships are very serviceable, faithful recreations of ships from the shows and movies. If you don't believe me, look at the Lead Ship Artist's Artstation here and tell me the canon ships look overexaggerated, to the point of looking like caricatures.
     
  7. Tuskin38

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    Ah I should have thought of that.
     
  8. Michael

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    Those look indeed much better than what I have seen. Good to know that they improved on the presentation of the ships.

    Some of those examples, though, perfectly illustrate what I meant earlier: the Defiant, the Voyager and the Enterprise-D look way off to me. Especially the overly pronounced hull-plating and specularity. Also, why do all windows have to be illuminated?
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  9. 137th Gebirg

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    Those are the super-busy models I recall as well. Perhaps their new lead developer realized that sometimes less is more and throttled down the over-detailing a bit to make them look a little more balanced and...well...correct.
     
  10. Tuskin38

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    The textures on those examples have been around since 2010.

    Most Fed ships in STO share the same 5-6 textures, not every ship can have it's own unique texture due to budget or deadlines, so the model artists have to be creative with what they have.

    Usually the only time they make new textures is if it's a drastic style change, like between eras.

    So DSC era ships, TOS/TMP era ships and Ent-Era have their own textures. Plus they have 25th century textures for their own designs.

    unfortunately the 24th century ships are stuck with the older textures. I think they look fine though.

    If you look at the ArtStation page linked earlier, some of the model pages show texture examples for textures he personally made.

    Also I'm not sure what's wrong with the intrepid class? It looks fine compared to the show model.
     
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  11. 137th Gebirg

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    The darker panels are too dark. IIRC, the original model had a more uniform look with little or no aztecking and a faint duck egg blue tint. Lighting is fine, though.
     
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  12. Tuskin38

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    Well as I said above, they couldn't make a new texture, so they had to stick with what they already had on hand.
     
  13. Michael

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    I‘m not sure I understand what we are discussing at this point. None of the three ships I highlighted look very close to how they looked on their respective shows. I‘m sure there are many reasons why that is the case – and some of them outside of the developers‘ realm of possibilities –, but to me they sure don‘t look like someone tried their best to be ”show accurate“. I‘m not necessarily saying they look bad, which they don‘t. They are nice enough models and renders. They just look like exaggerated versions of the ships they‘re representing. That‘s all.
     
  14. 137th Gebirg

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    And I think they’re very accurate, modelling wise, not talking about the textures. I don’t see how they look exaggerated at all.

    But this thread isn’t for STO, so we should move on.
     
  16. NOVE9

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    Hey all, just wondering for those of you that have the glenn, does the base and mag say glenn or discovery?
     
  17. Nate

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    The magazine & base say Discovery. The model & box are the parts marked as the Glenn.
     
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    Awesome thank you!! My partner bought one online for me for Christmas and we were worried it was a knock off when we saw discovery written on the base. Is there a way to tell if which issue we got then?
     
  19. Nate

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    No, they’re not numbered other than the number on the base for Discovery.
     
  20. Tuskin38

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    I got the Discovery model for Christmas