Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x03 - "Assimilation"

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  1. Sarcastic Vulcan Salute

    Sarcastic Vulcan Salute Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    In Hide and Q, Q set up a battle that left Worf and Wesley dead, but let Riker resurrect them.
     
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  2. cooleddie74

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    TRIUMPH AND PIMPBOT 5000 ARE CANON.
     
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  3. Trekker4747

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    I'm not saying explain it all in the show, but the show shows the ship entering a hole and disappearing and then reappearing/exiting out the other side. I never pictured it like this and at least in TVH this didn't seem to be the case (as there was a point you had to break out of orbit to get where you wanted to be.) It just seemed to be you went around the star in the right way at warp, broke out at some point and you were at your temporal destination without ever really leaving
     
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  4. WarpFactorZ

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    That's the transition from the 14 freeway to Pearlblossom Highway. I've taken it many times en route to Vegas! Maybe that's the easter egg: what happens on La Sirena, stays on La Sirena...

    Note also that just east of the coordinates is "Rough Road". Perhaps *that's* the hidden message.

    Also, the "farm" is a vinyard.

    I could have sworn I saw Chateau Picard out the window, which is why I thought he says "home". And what's the problem with La Sirena beaming people around (actually through) the world? Surely a 24th century transporter has a range of several thousand km?
     
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  5. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I agree. I think we will get a scene before the end of the season where Seven will remove her last Borg implants in order to complete her de-borgification and finally be completely human.
     
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  6. Trekker4747

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    Giving it another watch, first one being at 1 AM means I probably missed stuff.

    Another item in the "this isn't our 2024" list is a billboard talking about a mission to Europa suggesting a more robust space system on par with Trek's 21st century than our own, unless Jeff Bezos has something going on I'm not aware of.
     
  7. fireproof78

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    I guess I imagine it as time as another dimension not in relativistic terms.
     
  8. Corran Horn

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    It'd be a pretty dick move by Q if he did all this and Elnor ended up dying and that was a permanent thing that stuck.
     
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    Q's kind of known for dick moves and this seems to be more on-par with S1/2 Q than the more "playful" Q we got later on and in VGR. Of note in the Q-Pid episode he implies any deaths in the Robin Hood world would stick so he doesn't seem to be one to pull punches.
     
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    But the left side of her skull is completely a Borg implant in the normal timeline. See VOY Timeless.
     
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    A couple of thoughts more…

    They get to warp 9 to slingshot, but why do they? The TOS warp 9 would correspond to a much lower factor in the TNG scale. Oh well, perhaps in the fascist universe they still use the old scale (or another entirely)

    The accident that leads to Rios being injured is quite unique, we’ve never seen a transporter failing so spectacularly. Either this version of the device is less reliable or it was severely malfunctioning.

    Rios asks seven to shoot to a nacelle of one of the pursuing ships, instead she shoots at her secondary hull and destroys her…and Rios compliments her for the shooting!
     
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    Possibly. I was thinking more of an inner journey, like being conflicted about returning to the revious timeline, but also confronting her feelings (no, that doesn't have to be cringe...) and social anxieties. I was stunned how, when Raffi broke down after Elnor's death, Seven got close to her, but didn't even hug her or just touch her hand or something. I mean, whatever happened between seasons, they're still friends, right? And yes, that could lead to her deliberately removing her implants, the barrier between her and people's prejudices (or keeping them and deciding they are not really what keeps her from forming connections with people. Anyway, I hope she will have some kind of journey this season.

    ETA: I'm confused as to why people think some characters, like Rios, would "stay in this universe." I thought this was an alternative timeline which would get reset if our heroes succeed, and thus everyone i it would cease to exist... or rather, never have existed in the first place.
     
  14. Quinton

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    Seven recognized that, as much as she would like to hug Raffi, that was not a moment in which Raffi would be able to handle the embrace. Some people just absolutely cannot do the whole physical thing immediately following trauma. Raffi is one of them.

    That's my read, at least! :)

    The 2024 Los Angeles they're in leads smoothly (well, "smoothly") into Picard's era in any other case; it's just that something has been altered at a precise moment which negates that. Staying there after negating that timeline-altering moment would mean living out one's life in a world that syncs with the "real" one our characters are from.

    (That said, I don't see anybody staying behind, personally.)
     
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    I'm one of them unless someone wants to get hurt.
     
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  16. Quinton

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    Me too, haha.
     
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    I doubt this group of Trek Writers knows about the TOS/TNG warp scale thing. They just wanted to emulate the "calling out the warp speed in TVH" thing. But even so, there's no reason why the different warp scales would change how the thing would work. Maybe the different warp speeds changes how long it takes or works but whether you're going TOS Warp 9.7 or TNG Warp 9.7 things still work the same.

    From my rewatch it kinda looks like it might be the vineyard, I think in the dark shots out the windshield/establishing shots we kind of make out the shapes of the Picard Vineyard home, so they are trying to beam around the curve of the Earth so they kinda miscalculated with Rios.
     
  18. ThreeEdgedSword

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    True, plus Raffi seems in denial mode right now.

    Du, I forgot we're in the past now. Apparently I'm like Janeway, timey-wimey stuff is giving me a headache!
     
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  19. Tuskin38

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    The butterfly symbol used for the clinic also appeared on a Starfleet medical crate in Episode 1. It's a stock image, but it can't be a coincidence, right? A medical clinic and a medical crate. The sticker is even the same colour.
    https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1504536198869622787

    Also all the talk about the butterfly effect.

    I looked it up, and the maximum distance we've seen in previous shows i 40k KM. La Barre to LA is only 10k, so I guess it isn't unreasonable for La Sirena even at low power to make that distance with a transporter.
     
  20. Quinton

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    Hahah, I feel ya. I'm hardly a regular chronological guru, myself. I got lucky this time. :P