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Spoilers Lower Decks General Discussion Thread

Well, I´m disappointed with the trailer, but still have hope for the show proper. Mariner seems to me extremely hyperactive and her contrast with Boimler might come across as forced. Like with many things I need to watch at least one entire episode to really understand. Unless you already know, YouTube has a fun with the fact that CBS had to turn off comments and voting ...
 
BillJ said:
I can't recall the name of the episode, but its the one where the Blue guy from "Old Wounds" shows up on the ship.
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"Cupid's Dagger" - it's a hilarious episode. Pretty great one too.

(on edit: Just looked up and noticed you'd already said it :) <-- oh look, the smiley didn't get italicized, cool! )

rhllot said:
I also prefer orville! seth is someone truly woke! in star trek we still did not see something like the captain having gay sex or firmly affirming that religion is the cancer of society
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Even TOS could be argued as being against religion, even "Who Mourns for Adonis" has Kirk saying "we find the one adequate" being suggestive of sarcasm too? TOS generally did keep religion out of it in that regard, usually doing shtick like "The Apple" where they're loosely mimicking Bible stuff.

OMG, a rather implied post-sex scene! And a not-tacky one! (Compare to TOS' "Wink of an Eye" for a truly tacktacular moment...) A lot of heterosexuals see that all the time and don't seem to be bothered. I was no more bothered by "Cupid's Dagger" than any hetero looooooooove scene. And far better than that: It's also a key point TO (a largely and surprisingly clever) story and not just two people stick figures engaging in drawn out foreplay or whatever in front of a camera for a minute for no reason other than "we lurrrrrrrrve each other" or some other empty BS. So, yeah, "Orville" got it right. The only other show that got it right was "Spin City".
 
The more I learn about The Orville, the gladder I am I stopped watching it.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to LD. Not that big a fan of the trailer, but I doubt the show will be that "intense" (for lack of a better word), all the time. The trailer is, after all, a trailer.
 
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Jinn said:
The more I learn about The Orivelle, the gladder I am I stopped watching it.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to LD. Not that big a fan of the trailer, but I doubt the show will be that "intense" (for lack of a better word), all the time. The trailer is, after all, a trailer.
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If you dropped out before season two's "Identity", you missed a treat.
 
eschaton said:
Second season was much, much better than the first, other than that dreadful "astrology is bad" episode.
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I did not make it into the second season far, aside from the first episode with the new security chief. The episode with Alara's parents was painful to watch and not enjoyable.
 
The Wormhole said:
Umm... What?

Exactly how is a show where the lead character is a white male "woke"? When did Ed Mercer have gay sex? And doesn't Picard basically shit on religion in Who Watches the Watchers?
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I genuinely am not remembering at this point. Too much LDS! Lol
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Okay. I don't even need to go to Chakoteya for a transcript. I know this by heart. I could even act it out too, but I won't do that. You ready? Here it goes...

Gillian pulls up in her truck as she sees Kirk and Spock walking in the windy streets of Sausalito, California.

Gillian: Well, if it isn't Robin Hood and Friar Tuck?
Kirk: Very little point in my trying to explain.
Gillian: Yeah... I'll buy that. Where are you fellas heading?
Kirk: Back to San Francisco.
Gillian: Ah, a landlubber. Why don't I give you a lift?
Kirk: We don't want to be any trouble.
Gillian: You've already been that.

Kirk and Spock walk toward Gillian's truck.

Gillian: What about him? (referring to Spock)
Kirk: Him? He's harmless. Back in the '60s, he was part of the Free Speech Movement at Berkley. I think he did a little too much LDS.
Gillian: LDS?
 
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Lord Garth said:
Okay. I don't even need to go to Chakoteya for a transcript. I know this by heart. I could even act it out too, but I won't do that. You ready? Here it goes...

Gillian pulls up in her truck as she sees Kirk and Spock walking in the windy streets of Sausalito, California.

Gillian: Well, if it isn't Robin Hood and Friar Tuck?
Kirk: Very little point in my trying to explain.
Gillian: Yeah... I'll buy that. Where are you fellas heading?
Kirk: Back to San Francisco.
Gillian: Ah, a landlubber. Why don't I give you a lift?
Kirk: We don't want to be any trouble.
Gillian: You've already been that.

Kirk and Spock walk toward Gillian's truck.

Gillian: What about him? (referring to Spock)
Kirk: Him? He's harmless. Back in the '60s, he was part of the Free Speech Movement at Berkley. I think he did a little to much LDS.
Gillian: LDS?
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Ooohhh...
 
Qonundrum said:
Even TOS could be argued as being against religion, even "Who Mourns for Adonis" has Kirk saying "we find the one adequate" being suggestive of sarcasm too? TOS generally did keep religion out of it in that regard, usually doing shtick like "The Apple" where they're loosely mimicking Bible stuff.
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Um...yeah, no. TOS - "Bread And Circuses" pretty much blows your argument up. Especially Uhura's comment to the 'Big 3' at the end:
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/43.htm
SPOCK: I wish we could have examined that belief of his more closely. It seems illogical for a sun worshiper to develop a philosophy of total brotherhood. Sun worship is usually a primitive superstition religion.

UHURA: I'm afraid you have it all wrong, Mister Spock, all of you. I've been monitoring some of their old-style radio waves, the empire spokesman trying to ridicule their religion. But he couldn't. Don't you understand? It's not the sun up in the sky. It's the Son of God.

KIRK: Caesar and Christ. They had them both. And the word is spreading only now.

MCCOY: A philosophy of total love and total brotherhood.

SPOCK: It will replace their imperial Rome, but it will happen in their twentieth century.
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