Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Sep 8, 2021.
Yes he was.
There's tons of character development in DS9. Almost every character winds up in a wildly different place at the end of the show than they were in the beginning.
Not every character has the same amount of growth/change and, in some cases, it may only relate to a relationship (O'Brien doesn't really change, but his relationship with Julian does a complete 180 from where it was in the early days, for example.)
But in almost every other Trek series so far, there's really no difference to Kirk in S1 vs. S3 or Picard in S2 or S7. (Picard's most significant character arc takes place literally in the last episode.)
DS9 remains a rarity among Trek series and is all the better for it.
No...Johnathan Archer was very changed after the events in ENT S2 - "Regeneration", and ENT S3 "Damage" in particular. They showed that change on screen in ENT S4 "Home".
One can say that not everything about Archer was better after 10 years in command of the NX-01 but he had definitely changed and become a lot less bigoted.
SO MUCH FUN! I laughed A LOT!
What they said. Plus, the chase scenes, the fabulous bar (I wonder how many places have a "Kirk drank here" sign? Is it like "Washington slept here"?), a starbase "mall" - with karts!, so many wonderful callouts everywhere I looked, Rutherford finally admitting he'd been doubting himself, and Mariner *finally* admitting how mad she was at Boimler and them making up. I thought the Doopler(s) were funny - but Richard Kind always makes me laugh. Just a joy from start to finish for me.
I see what you did there!
The duplicating dooplers reminded me of Mr. Meeseeks XD
Being stranded on Rubicun III must be great (if you know the rules)
The Cerritos model saucer is misaligned at a funny angle in 2 scenes
Funny that DJ Okona still carries his guidance module around! XD
Its not just Archer, all three of Archer, Trip and T’Pol are very different people in the finale than they are in the first season…and for Trip I don’t just mean him dying.
Except not funny.
The jokes and stories are great, but I really enjoy all the character work that they're doing this season.
Imagine if the Borg assimilate the Dooplers and figure out how to genetically engineer / control the duplicating bio mechanism.
They would be friggin near unstoppable.
Best one this season for me. First 10.
Also, that's Quark mentioned three episodes in a row now and a Deep Space Nine model. I recall someone elsewhere wondering why DS9 wasn't getting any Easter Eggs... there you are chum! Maybe an Armin Shimmerman cameo on the way?
You really don’t need the spoiler tags. Its already marked as a spoiler thread.
Someone else might have pointed this one out as well but... Was that supposed to be Alex Kurtzman in the wheelchair? It really did look like him.
The important question, of course, is which Federation official decided to have the trade negotiations take place on Starbase 25 as opposed to, say, Veridian III. Also, the Dooplers should have warp capability, so why not travel to a planet like that in a tried and true environment?
I'd give it a 9 for the Boimler/Mariner story, but the Doop story seriously underwhelmed me and dropped it 2 points. It was great hearing Richard Kind in Star Trek, but even for a comedic cartoon in a very not hard sci-fi franchise, that was a lot. How did he replicate with clothes?
Maybe they're relatively new to warp, and have only achieved warp 2 or 3, and didn't want to go into suspended animation and leave years before every one else?
Remember that the Evora had just achieved warp drive and become a Federation protectorate just prior to INS and the Evora delegation were traveling aboard the Enterprise-E, so I could see the Dooplers being a recent warp species and accepting an offer to travel aboard a Federation vessel rather than one of their own native warp-capable ships.
I don’t think Starfleet knows how a +1 works. What if someone wanted to bring a loved one who wasn’t in Starfleet?
It was a very strange party
^ And I don‘t know if you know how a bouncer at a club works. They don‘t like your look or your face (or the class of starship you serve on) and they won‘t let you in. It‘s certainly a particular stereotype of bouncer, at the very least.
Why would Starfleet need a bouncer?
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