Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x02 - "Kayshon, His Eyes Open"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Aug 19, 2021.

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  1. Ghouleddie74

    Ghouleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I liked that the Collectors' Guild museum had the recorder marker from the S.S. Valiant circa 2065 and the second TOS pilot. Either the Valiant's or a similar late 21st century Earth recorder marker.
     
  2. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I wonder, since they made the Boimler clone seems so much more aggressive, if we'll see shades of "The Enemy Within" begin to formulate in the clones character.

    Perhaps another reason why they created him?
     
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  3. Tuskin38

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    Troi isn't in this season at all according to Mike, they couldn't find a way to fit her in apparently.

    the shuttle running from the Cube in that trailer appears to be the same design as the one they used in this episode so maybe.
     
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  4. TIM Thomason

    TIM Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Correct. As I proposed four years ago, love instructors should have been a necessary part of the Discovery crew:

     
  5. Hades Temperature Checker

    Hades Temperature Checker Fleet Admiral Admiral

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  6. Kevman7987

    Kevman7987 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Love instructors. Can anybody give an explanation for what that means beyond being an escort service?
     
  7. Tuskin38

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    I don't believe it has ever been explained. The TMP Novelization by Gene says Kirk's first name was after his uncle and his mother's first 'love instructor'.
     
  8. Hades Temperature Checker

    Hades Temperature Checker Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    There isn't an explanation.
     
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  9. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    It's Roddenberry. It means exactly what you think it means.

    There's a reason that "Roddenberry Sex Planet" was an actual term in the writing room.
     
  10. TIM Thomason

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    Sex educators. Just a little more hands on. We saw some of Roddenberry's "progressive" stance on sex education in his 1971 film Pretty Maids All in a Row.
     
  11. JRoss

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    I love that Mariner finally got taken down a peg. The ego was just all over the place in the first season, and she never learned anything. It was all "I'm just such a great officer but I don't know what I want," but now it's "I've been going blindly into things heedless of the consequences, why not show some humility and ask someone else for an idea?"

    All of the easter eggs were funny. I only wish they could have gotten Saul Rubinek for the episode.
     
  12. Paul755

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    “They all tried to collect Data”

    loved this episode.
     
  13. Court_Vince

    Court_Vince Commander Red Shirt

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    Just finished this one, Really enjoyed it! My favorite thing for the episode had to be the imagery, the climbing on skeletons, the shots of the space station The Cerritos and all the various collection rooms. Kayshon was also a welcomed treat really showing all the little practicalites when comes to The Tamarian language. Now I didn't care much for conflict between Jet and Mariner and the resolution felt cliche and overdone to me. Overall I gave it 7, cant wait to see more!
     
  14. Timo

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    ...His uncle was his mother's first love instructor?

    I'm glad they dropped that one and went with the second name choice instead.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  15. KennyBoo

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    I didn't get that at all.....but I wasn't looking for digs at Discovery.......guess I'll look more upon rewatch.
     
  16. thribs

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    What Boilmer said at the end about the Titan being just one heavily serialised adventure with unexpected twists.
     
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  17. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Well if it's Kirks father's brother then it's not as bad as what you would assume when you first hear it
    I even thought the plot about Mariner always wanting to take centre stage was a dig at Disco
     
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  18. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    It's hard to put into words.
    It's more the kind of thing I would have to demonstrate for you
     
  19. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Surely it's a copy of Thomas Riker.
    Technically it's a copy of Boimler which is a copy of Tom Riker and copies of copies always turn out wrong or evil
     
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  20. Michael

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    @TimeIsAPredator, please try to use the multiquote feature instead of posting that many times in a row. Just hit + Quote on every post you want to reply to and then the Insert Quote… button to combine them all into one post. Thank you.
     
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