Star Trek: Galaxies

[All Seeing Eye]

A planet called Deltana III (or whatever) is a Federation member planet and has a population over 8 Billion. Deltana III has been in the Federation since very early on in its formation and has it's own shipyards, orbital spacedock type facility, Starfleet facilities etc etc etc

Anyway, there's a freak occurence and the entire Deltana III solar system passes through some kind of photon belt phenomena and somehow the entire solar system get's transported to the Andromeda Galaxy.

Do you see where i'm going with this?

Originally I was going to have Earths solar system transported there by Q as a joke and then transported back after a few series to the exact same moment it disapeared so to everyone on Earth they were gone for years but to everybody else in the Alpha Quadrant they were gone for a split second.

 

[Kaziarl]

Well obviously for the plot the system that gets moved would survive. However, realisticly the system would have some major problems to begin with. For example, even with the wonders of future technology each member of the federation relies on interstellar trade.


Beyond little things like that, I think it would be an interesting premise, but how would you avoid it becoming a solar system sized voyager?

 

[All Seeing Eye]

but how would you avoid it becoming a solar system sized voyager?

Because it's not just a ship that's been transported, it's 8 billion people, a planet with ship building and repair facilities and also any ships in that solar system got transported too. We could have several Starships get brought along for the ride.

As for the trade thing, the first few episodes might focus on the planet sending ships out to find any local trade routes.

I think the series would basically progress with the planet attempting to make allies, friends and to found it's very own UFP in the Andromeda Galaxy.

 

[SGCSG1]

I like it. This is perhaps the least dumb idea for a Star Trek spin-off I've heard in a long time. It has potential. Call up J.J. and see what he says....

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

What would writers make up set in another galaxy that they can't make up set in this one?

 

[JNG]

I might have them go on purpose. Have some sort of rift formation detected, the planet will be drawn into it in x months or whatever and they know it will come out in a position to fall into a similar orbit around a similar-enough star in another galaxy, everyone gets rolling on evacuating the planet but some on it start questioning if that is necessary, those with families there who into being astronauts or philosophers or whatever become fascinated with the idea of suddenly being a new outpost of the UFP in another galaxy as you describe, maybe some are scientists and think that after going through the phenomenon they'd have enough data to predict a reappearance of the phenomenon (leaving the door open for a return), so many like-minded persons stay on the planet as it gets an official Federation send-off and poof...off to a new frontier

 

[Kaziarl]

What I mean is, you're talking about a group of people, regardless of how large, being stranded away from federation space. I am assuming they will try to find a way back to our galaxy, or at the very least make contact, how will you make it unique.

And please, don't feel as though I'm shooting holes in your idea. I like it alot, I just wouldn't want it ending up being the same ol' thing.

 

[johnsonalmighty]

I think it's a good idea, but if this group of people arrived in the Andromeda galaxy, wouldn't they subdued (exterminated) to radiation like the empire of the Kelvan's (TOS: By any other name)? So If this was Trek Canon, this would be a no-no. Your Best bet would be the M-33 Galaxy, or the intermedate galaxies between the Milky Way, and the Andromeda Galaxy. I forgot thier names. Other than that little detail, this is a grand Idea! I would love to see this fleshed out. But my only complaint is that the setting cannot be in Andromeda due to canon. It's Ironic, im on the " who cares if it's non-canon. " for the new movie, but I'm being a stickler for canon here.

 

[hellsgate]

Intriguing.....

Why not write it as a follow-up to TNG's "Where Silence Has Lease". The same race that sired Nagilum returns & decides they're curious about us. However, the U.S.S. Titan is present in the system at the time of the encounter. The Titan's being repaired after its experience with the Small Magellanic Cloud, etc. & gets sucked in, by accident.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

What would writers make up set in another galaxy that they can't make up set in this one?

My question exactly.

Or is it just that they no longer have the Federation infrastructure to depend on, and have to rebuild their own society where they are now - and not try to return home - which makes it distinctive from VOY.

If that's the case, yeah I can see that this has potential. The intrepid survivors trying to rebuild their version of the Federation in a hostile place, with only the resources of one planet to fall back on, which may seem like a lot till they realize that their neighbors are empires spanning multiple star systems.

But now this all sounds like what ENT should have been, with Earth as the 'stranded' planet, only it never moved. It's always been in a hostile place with only the resources of one planet to fall back on surrounded by far larger and more powerful neighbors...

So let's just go back to ENT and do it right this time.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Or is it just that they no longer have the Federation infrastructure to depend on, and have to rebuild their own society where they are now - and not try to return home

yes this is the case.

You're asking how can it be different from just setting it in our own Galaxy, well there's what you've just said (which I quoted) and then also it gives the chance to completely reshape Trek into something fresh and new. No more alien forehead of the week, maybe even no more warp drive as we know it. Fresh galaxy, fresh start.
Of course to keep it Trek the planet would of course have a population made up of many of our beloved Federation races including many many Humans and some of the Starships pulled through too would have mixed crews but mostly Human.

Gotta have Humans right?

 

[USS Excelsior]

Maybe to make things more interesting a Borg cube happens to be in the system when it's transported and then is accidently transported to the new galaxy as well. It then leaves to assimilate new species but makes appearances in some episodes.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Maybe to make things more interesting a Borg cube happens to be in the system when it's transported and then is accidently transported to the new galaxy as well.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

You're asking how can it be different from just setting it in our own Galaxy, well there's what you've just said (which I quoted) and then also it gives the chance to completely reshape Trek into something fresh and new.

Technically it could be still in our galaxy and still be distant enough from the Federation for the story to work the same. But to be in a different galaxy does create a psychological gulf that implies there will be no possibility of rescue, well, at least a lot less of a possibility, since in Star Trek, anything's possible.

Maybe to make things more interesting a Borg cube happens to be in the system when it's transported and then is accidently transported to the new galaxy as well.

Okay, I'll go with this. Nothing wrong with the Borg if they will be taken seriously for a change. They cannot be defeated other than through random luck, which does not happen often. Assimilation is permanent, no exceptions, no cheats. EVER!

That's what we need here, really, assurances that there will be no cheats. If this colony is permanently separated from the Federation, we need a guarantee that it is permanent. Even being in another galaxy isn't ironclad enough. You'd need to be in an alternate timeline where the Federation had been destroyed and attempting time travel would make you explode or something. Even then there's always the risk of a technobabble fix.

For a Borg story, how about a situation with a lot more of a sense of claustrophobia. Usually you can just run away from the Borg. What if that were no longer possible? How about if the colony were in a part of this or any other galaxy where the usual situation, with nice blue-green planets around every corner, were not the case? Radiation has wiped out habitable worlds in a range far too wide for a starship even to travel. The colonists find a habitable world and have no choice but to stay, even when the Borg show up.

Permanently trapped on a planet with the Borg. Hmm, there's a possibility...

 

[PhotoM]

Transporting a planet system is cool. But how about something easier lets just say transporting just one ship. Oh! also lets not transport it so far. Maybe just 70,000 light years away. Then they can go threw the adventure of traveling back. Also lets add Q and the borg for good measure. Lets also cast a temperamental french actress Wait............ Oh I forgot never mind

 

[All Seeing Eye]

^ Are you mocking me?

 

[Red Ranger]

Sounds a bit like Space: 1999. But it's not a bad idea. -- RR

 

[blockaderunner]

What will make it different from the Trek we know? If you want to make it interesting, try putting some limitations on some of the Treknology that seems to bail everyone out. For example: Maybe this galaxy has spatial phenomena that renders such luxuries as replicators, holodecks and universal translators inoperative. The people of that planet might have to have segments of the population to turn to agriculture and farming to provide food since it can't magically appear at the push of a button. No holodecks means that they would have to engage with one another for recreation. And trying to communicate with new races can be drama within itself without the ol' UT's.

You could also have a segement of the population who were sympathetic for the Maqui's cause or who thought the Federation didn't work step in and try to do something different since there is no Starfleet to bail anyone out. You could also throw in some kind of conspiracy that the incident might not have been random. Perhaps a few of the powers in the AQ (The Feds, Rommies, Klingons) with the assistance of Section 31's scientific wing somehow did that to that planet as an experiment to see how a populace functions without the safety net of a big government, putting the "It's easy to be a saint in paradise" adage to the test.

On the subject of characters, where are they? It's amazing that people berate Brannon Braga, but don't seem to mind aping his style: "Let's get some crazy science fictiony concept and thorw in some characters whenever!". If you don't have any multi-dimensional characters in the situations, it will be MOTS as far as modern Trek goes.