Star Trek : Deep Space Nine's Maquis Arc
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This I agree. I wanted to know what happened to Hudson. One episode on Cal would have been great in S6 or 7
Well, Eddington did reveal to Sisko that Cal didn't make it, so atleast we know his ultimate fate.
Other then that, I was happy with the Maquis storyline. One or two episodes more wouldn't have hurt, but that would have been the absolute limit for me.
As for the pay-off, it somehow makes tragic sense that after all those years fighting, the Maquis were snuffed out as if all their troubles were in vain, and all those years of hardship were for nothing.
Other then that, I was happy with the Maquis storyline. One or two episodes more wouldn't have hurt, but that would have been the absolute limit for me.
As for the pay-off, it somehow makes tragic sense that after all those years fighting, the Maquis were snuffed out as if all their troubles were in vain, and all those years of hardship were for nothing.
Interesting
Some ideas were thrown about on how to return Thomas, but ultimatly nothing came of it sadly.
That would have made for a good episode during the Dominion war breaking him and maybe other Federation pow's out of prison.
It would even be an oppurtunity to bring back Ro Laren for an episode.
I would have been happy with a whole series about the Maquis.
And yes Thomas Riker (sooooo much better than that other one) was a very interesting character. Might have been fairly complex to write for since you had core Riker he was branched off from.
And yes Thomas Riker (sooooo much better than that other one) was a very interesting character. Might have been fairly complex to write for since you had core Riker he was branched off from.
The way that Voyager handled the Maquis storyline was part of the reason why I never warmed to the show.
I loved the Maquis arc in DS9, loved it. They're a completely unique foe in Star Trek in that they're actually very easy to be sympathetic towards, and were, as pointed out above, ultimately right.
I loved the Maquis arc in DS9, loved it. They're a completely unique foe in Star Trek in that they're actually very easy to be sympathetic towards, and were, as pointed out above, ultimately right.
I agree. The whole point of TNG's season 7 and DS9's season 2 doing a few Maquis related episodes was to set up for Voyager. It was very disapointing that by season 3 of Voyager all the Maquis had basically been more efficently assimilated into the Federation than the Borg could have ever managed.
The Voyager writers had an excellent dramatic tool to use in it's stories with the Maquis. And didn't use it. The best use of the Maquis came from the Eddington story arc in DS9 when they finally just shrugged realizing Voyager was never going to do anything with it.
I would probably go with #2, however I didn't necessarily need to see Maquis stories during the war. I was fine with them being wiped out by the Cardassians and Dominion. I do wish more had been done before the war. I wish they had done a better job of making Eddington a more important part of the crew so that his eventual betrayal would have more of an emotional impact for the audience. We barely knew him so when he betrayed the crew it didn't hit me that hard because it wasn't someone that I had come to know over the course of x number of episodes. And I would've gotten Sisko's dogged hunt for Eddington a lot more.
I also wish we had gotten a follow up on the Tom Riker story.
I also wish we had gotten a follow up on the Tom Riker story.
Can't say I really miss Cal; that character had the charisma of a brick wall, IMO. A scene or two later on would have been nicely tidying, yeah, but man. Eddington was so much cooler.
Agreed. Bernie Casey was pretty stiff and laboured in the Maquis 2-parter.
The only way Eddington could have been any cooler is if he'd wipped out the Glaive.......
Agreed that DS9 handled the Maquis arc well, though I'm not sure Eddington's final episode was especially useful or necessary. IIRC it was fairly entertaining though, and I guess it was a better send-off for the character.
Agreed that it would have been nice to see Eddington in more episodes prior to his inevitable betrayal; I think he suffered a bit from "Valeris Syndrome", in which you know if the non-regular is there it's because they'll have a significant part to play in the events that follow.
Also Agreed that Voyager wasted the Maquis Arc.
Disagree that the Maquis were right. If anything their actions further destabilized Cardassia and may have been partly responsible for ensuing events. Not saying they didn't have some good points, but one wonders how many of the Maquis, if they had it to do all over again, would do exactly what they did. I think there may have been better options available.
Would have liked to see Cal Hudson at least once more. Bad casting, but once the character existed, better to show his fate than hear about it off-handedly.
Agreed that it would have been nice to see Eddington in more episodes prior to his inevitable betrayal; I think he suffered a bit from "Valeris Syndrome", in which you know if the non-regular is there it's because they'll have a significant part to play in the events that follow.
Also Agreed that Voyager wasted the Maquis Arc.
Disagree that the Maquis were right. If anything their actions further destabilized Cardassia and may have been partly responsible for ensuing events. Not saying they didn't have some good points, but one wonders how many of the Maquis, if they had it to do all over again, would do exactly what they did. I think there may have been better options available.
Would have liked to see Cal Hudson at least once more. Bad casting, but once the character existed, better to show his fate than hear about it off-handedly.
Do what differently? Politely ask the Cardassians not to persecute them? Try to yet again persuade the Federation to give a crap about it's own citizens?
The one real strategic mistake they made was Eddington escelating things by attacking Federaton targets. But even that was an obvious response being the Federation seemed to have it in for their own citizens.
Cal Hudson said it best, "It's a bad treaty." Which it was. The fact that the Federation put so much effort and investment into preserving that treaty was silly at times. Way of the Warrior proved the Cardassians weren't ready for another sustained conflict and were pretty much bluffing with the bluster.
Even during that treaty the Cardassians weren't nice people. They were fully prepared to sieze one of the disputed systems in Chain of Command. They tried to manipulate the Federation into tracking down the Bajorian terrorists by destroying a Federation colony in Ensign Ro, attacked DS9 for virtually no reason in Emissary, tried to sabotage and attacked the Enterprise and a Klingon cruiser in order to gain a momentary advantage in The Chase and I can go on. These weren't trustworthy, peace loving people. They weren't going to honor the treaty and regularly tried to undermine it whenever it was to their advantage.
And saying they somehow were justified by the Maquis in joining the Dominion is being an aplogist in it's purist form. Honestly the Federation, by putting up with all this crap in the name of "peace" makes Neville Chamberlain look like a resolute and determined man.
I agree with the above sentiments, but doesn't that just prove how sympathetic a foe they were? Removed from the injustice of the DMZ treaty settlement and flung into the Delta Quadrant, they were just ordinary Starfleet officers with no gripe against their ship or Captain.
They weren't monsters.
I disagree. Throughout the series, I found the Maquis to be an annoyance (I enjoyed their presence in the show, I just didn't like their morals).
They always seem to be making futile inhumane attempts to intimidate the Cardassians, and before the Dominion alliance - Federation alliance war, all they were accomplishing was provoking the Cardassians to wage war on the federation, just because they were too stubborn to move away from their colonies after the treaty.
