Star Trek Canon... about OUR generation

[Danoz]

Voyager established in Canon the "Millennium Gate," which already sets us on a different path from Earth history established in Canon by a full 9 years. Also, didn't the Eugenics war take place in the 90s, with humans capable of Interplanetary travel? Then, World War III (in the wake of the Eugenics war) escalated to complete nuclear destruction starting in... 2026 and lasting through 2053? Then eventually throughout 2100s and in the wake of first contact world government and the elimination of poverty/war etc. DS9 sets into canon the "Gabriel Bell" madness which takes place about 11 years from now.

It seems like Voyager's Millennium Gate story, also "Friendship One" -- seem to go against the idea that Earth is recovering from a massive Eugenics war and is spiraling into a period of mass suffering. Doesn't the Voyager crew also travel to 1996 in the heart of the Eugenics war but everything is fine? Were there attempts to retcon this?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Voyager established in Canon the "Millennium Gate," which already sets us on a different path from Earth history established in Canon by a full 9 years. Also, didn't the Eugenics war take place in the 90s, with humans capable of Interplanetary travel? Then, World War III (in the wake of the Eugenics war) escalated to complete nuclear destruction starting in... 2026 and lasting through 2053? Then eventually throughout 2100s and in the wake of first contact world government and the elimination of poverty/war etc. DS9 sets into canon the "Gabriel Bell" madness which takes place about 11 years from now.

It seems like Voyager's Millennium Gate story, also "Friendship One" -- seem to go against the idea that Earth is recovering from a massive Eugenics war and is spiraling into a period of mass suffering. Doesn't the Voyager crew also travel to 1996 in the heart of the Eugenics war but everything is fine? Were there attempts to retcon this?

The USA wasn't involved in the Eugenics Wars.

 

[The Academic]

Were there attempts to retcon this?

When every other attempt to get these discrepancies in line fails... Temporal Cold War!

 

[Myasishchev]

The USA wasn't involved in the Eugenics Wars.

I don't recall them ever saying that. Is this inference?

 

[The Academic]

The USA wasn't involved in the Eugenics Wars.

I don't recall them ever saying that. Is this inference?

See: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Eugenics_Wars

'Reports as to exactly how the [Eugenics Wars] began vary; some claim that humanity rose up against Khan and his fellow "supermen", while others believe the Augments began to fight among themselves. Regardless of how they began or who started them, the Eugenics Wars had a devastating impact on Earth, as entire populations were bombed out of existence (ENT Cold Station; TOS Space Seed). As the wars raged and many areas were devastated, others (including those of the United States of America) remained largely unaffected (VOY Future's End).'

 

[Plum]

Were there attempts to retcon this?

When every other attempt to get these discrepancies in line fails... Temporal Cold War!

I'm all for retconning it somehow. We'd need charts though!

 

[WendellM]

I'm all for retconning it somehow. We'd need charts though!

I trust that clears everything up.

(Not mine - found it somewhere.)

 

[Myasishchev]

The USA wasn't involved in the Eugenics Wars.

I don't recall them ever saying that. Is this inference?

See: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Eugenics_Wars

'Reports as to exactly how the [Eugenics Wars] began vary; some claim that humanity rose up against Khan and his fellow "supermen", while others believe the Augments began to fight among themselves. Regardless of how they began or who started them, the Eugenics Wars had a devastating impact on Earth, as entire populations were bombed out of existence (ENT Cold Station; TOS Space Seed). As the wars raged and many areas were devastated, others (including those of the United States of America) remained largely unaffected (VOY Future's End).'

So it's inference.

 

[miraclefan]

I'm all for retconning it somehow. We'd need charts though!

I trust that clears everything up.

(Not mine - found it somewhere.)

CURSE YOU TIME-TRAVEL!!!CURSE YOUUUUU!!!!!!!!

 

[Myasishchev]

Somewhere around here I have the book that's from. It's called Science Made Stupid.

 

[WendellM]

Somewhere around here I have the book that's from. It's called Science Made Stupid.

Cool - thank you! I'd wondered where it came from. Now that you've provided the name, I did a search and found some amusing excerpts from it: http://www.besse.at/sms