Star Trek (2009) Did Something No Movie Has Ever Done

[slappy]

It occurs to me that Trek '09 accomplished something I've never seen before in cinema history.

It served as a remake, a reboot, a prequel and a sequel all at the same time due to the nature of it's plot device. It continued the events after Nemesis, thus being a sequel. It also took place before said events and thus functions as a prequel. It remade the original TV series, yet it also served as a reboot by changing the timeline.

Due to the nature and history of the franchise, I doubt we'll ever see a movie that serves all those functions again.

 

[Smellmet]

Totally agree.

 

[F. King Daniel]

It raped Goddenberry's vision!!!!! That's what it did that no Trek ever did before!!!!

 

[Disco]

It raped Goddenberry's vision!!!!! That's what it did that no Trek ever did before!!!!

Hogwash!

 

[Lance]

It raped Goddenberry's vision!!!!! That's what it did that no Trek ever did before!!!!

Hogwash!

I think King Daniel had his tongue in cheek when he said that.

I agree OP that it's somewhat unique in being all of things. I can't think of another movie off-hand which does everything you mention. Maybe only Superman Returns qualifies? (Which tried to be a sequel to the Donner movies while still rebooting things, but it was all a bit half-hearted about it).

 

[Malaika]

Exactly. Because it's not so common for reboots to accomplish all these things, there are still people confused about some stuff (e.g., it's another reality and no, they didn't destroy the tos one and need to restore it. It is a prequel but it doesn't retcon the tos characters because this is the origin story of this specific version of the crew, not really the original one -even tho you can draw some similiartities)
But to me, it never was so hard to understand and I think it was genius for them to create another trek that can co-exist with the other one

 

[fireproof78]

Yes, it did. I thought it did so brilliantly, and kept the spirit of TOS while providing a more contemporary look and feel to the franchise. Overall, I think it did a fantastic job, and is one of my favorite films of all time for a reason.

 

[SPCTRE]

It raped Goddenberry's vision!!!!! That's what it did that no Trek ever did before!!!!

Hogwash!

I think King Daniel had his tongue in cheek when he said that.

I agree OP that it's somewhat unique in being all of things. I can't think of another movie off-hand which does everything you mention. Maybe only Superman Returns qualifies? (Which tried to be a sequel to the Donner movies while still rebooting things, but it was all a bit half-hearted about it).

Nah he was being totally cereal you gais.

 

[Starborn Dragon]

The Star Wars prequels came out before Abrams Trek. They were essentially a reboot.

Actually Highlander two was also a reboot, when you consider it.

Casino Royale was a reboot of the James Bond franchise. Maybe an argument could even be made as far bask as Roger Moore being a reboot of Sean Connery's Bond.

Godzilla 2000 was a reboot of the Godzilla franchise.

The Hulk was rebooted because Marvel didn't like Ang Lee's movie.

The Punisher has had several different versions.

Spider Man, the current movies are a reboot of the Toby MacGuire ones.

Superman.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Planet Of The Apes.

Just to name a few.

 

[Disco]

The Star Wars prequels came out before Abrams Trek. They were essentially a reboot.

Actually Highlander two was also a reboot, when you consider it.

Casino Royale was a reboot of the James Bond franchise. Maybe an argument could even be made as far bask as Roger Moore being a reboot of Sean Connery's Bond.

Godzilla 2000 was a reboot of the Godzilla franchise.

The Hulk was rebooted because Marvel didn't like Ang Lee's movie.

The Punisher has had several different versions.

Spider Man, the current movies are a reboot of the Toby MacGuire ones.

Superman.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Planet Of The Apes.

Just to name a few.

They were only reboots. Not prequels, sequels and reboots.

The Prequel Trilogy was not a reboot.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Maybe I'm missing something here (it's very late) but no one's arguing any of those aren't reboots. (Except I know for a fact the SW prequels aren't a reboot at all, in any case.) The topic creator brought up the rather nifty point that Trek 2009 is several of these classifications at once, which is a damn rarity.

Edit: Ninja'd.

 

[F. King Daniel]

It's rare but not quite unique. X-Men: Days of Future Past did the same thing sans the remake part, and Terminator Genisys is set to try it next month. Star Trek made time travel reboots all the rage

 

[bbailey861]

It raped Goddenberry's vision!!!!! That's what it did that no Trek ever did before!!!!

To the waiter, "I'll have some of what he's drinking, please."

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Haha, yeah, I recall hearing Trek 2009 mentioned often last year when people were trying to describe what DOFP was essentially trying to do in some ways.

 

[Khan 2.0]

It's rare but not quite unique. X-Men: Days of Future Past did the same thing sans the remake part, and Terminator Genisys is set to try it next month. Star Trek made time travel reboots all the rage

I think that was the way Terminator Salvation was initially conceived but it didn't really get into to that aspect was more of a sequel/prequel

 

[Franklin]

I'd say the only thing about this I'm not sure about is whether or not it's technically a prequel. What we saw on screen was the launching of the careers of Kirk and the others post-Kelvin, or after events diverged from the prime universe and created the new one. We still don't really know much about the launching of careers and how the crew came together in the prime universe.

So maybe calling it everything else and an "origins story" rather than a prequel would be better.

That said, however it's labeled, I've always thought the movie did what it did beautifully.

 

[Jedi_Master]

It's rare but not quite unique. X-Men: Days of Future Past did the same thing sans the remake part)

I think there is room to argue that DOFP was almost as unique as ST09, minus the insane nerdrage reaction from a subset of fans.

 

[Kruezerman]

So are you saying that Star Trek XI went where no movie has gone before?

 

[Ryan8bit]

It's rare but not quite unique. X-Men: Days of Future Past did the same thing sans the remake part, and Terminator Genisys is set to try it next month. Star Trek made time travel reboots all the rage

I think that was the way Terminator Salvation was initially conceived but it didn't really get into to that aspect was more of a sequel/prequel

Even Terminator 3 probably falls under this definition (or the Sarah Connor Chronicles, if we count TV). Basically it's a reboot with time travel, which Star Trek didn't do first, it maybe just popularized it and was more straightforward about it.

 

[Lance]

It is worth noting that, until 2009, every Star Trek except TOS had had an 'origins' story. TOS started with the ship already out there and the crew already together. No matter which pilot or first episode you choose to begin with, there's no indication anywhere that it's the first time this crew have been brought together. Despite the fact that fandom all had an agreed construct around which we based the pre-history of TOS, very little of it was ever actually established on screen. We *never* saw their 'origin story'.

That was one of the main appeals of the 2009 movie for me. It honestly felt to me like somebody had sat down and watched TOS, and put aside the 'fanon' that had been established over the years in favor of asking the simple question: "How Did These Guys We Saw For The First Time On TV In The Man Trap Originally Come Together?". Only Vonda McIntyre's novel 'Enterprise - The First Adventure' had ever attempted anything quite so ambitious before.

If I were to stretch it, maybe TMP presented an 'origin story' of sorts. But it was based around a time gap since the original series had been off the air, and it was more like a 'reunion special' than an 'origin story' per se.