Star Trek 1,5,6,9,10 end credits

[TheVortaKeevan]

By far the best in Star Trek Insurrection when it comes to the end credit theme following Final Frontier and First Contact. Its the same theme used in Star Trek The Next Generation for it's opening and closing credit. I guess we can call the Next Generation theme song not really a theme for TOS.

 

[Christopher]

By far the best in Star Trek Insurrection when it comes to the end credit theme following Final Frontier and First Contact. Its the same theme used in Star Trek The Next Generation for it's opening and closing credit. I guess we can call the Next Generation theme song not really a theme for TOS.

The theme you're talking about was written by Jerry Goldsmith for Star Trek: The Motion Picture in 1979, then reused by The Next Generation eight years later, as well as by Goldsmith in all the later films he scored (so that's 1, 5, 8, 9, and 10, not 6).

 

[Firebird]

By far the best in Star Trek Insurrection when it comes to the end credit theme following Final Frontier and First Contact. Its the same theme used in Star Trek The Next Generation for it's opening and closing credit. I guess we can call the Next Generation theme song not really a theme for TOS.

The theme you're talking about was written by Jerry Goldsmith for Star Trek: The Motion Picture in 1979, then reused by The Next Generation eight years later, as well as by Goldsmith in all the later films he scored (so that's 1, 5, 8, 9, and 10, not 6).

This.

Goldsmith's themes from TMP are still the best out of everything in the entire Star Trek canon for me. His reinterpretations for the later films, and the TNG version don't have that same... magisterial feel to them.

 

[MacLeod]

I say we call it the TMP theme as that's where it originated. Of course the TNG had an alternative theme by Dennis McCarthy before they decided to use the TMP theme

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NvulPF-IGc[/yt]

 

[cardinal biggles]

It's a decent enough theme (and I liked McCarthy's use of it as a secondary theme song in the early episodes), but I'm so used to Goldsmith's TMP theme that this ends up coming off a bit Galaxy Quest-ish.

 

[Christopher]

It's a decent enough theme (and I liked McCarthy's use of it as a secondary theme song in the early episodes)

Specifically, he used it (or rather, the B portion of it) as his Picard theme. And this use continued into at least the third season -- including its unforgettable use in the climax of "Yesterday's Enterprise."

Honestly, I never liked the TNG arrangement of the TMP theme as much as the movie version. The differences are subtle, but it's played by a smaller orchestra and conducted a bit differently, so it sounds cheesier and more lifeless somehow.

 

[Cyke101]

It's a decent enough theme (and I liked McCarthy's use of it as a secondary theme song in the early episodes)

Specifically, he used it (or rather, the B portion of it) as his Picard theme. And this use continued into at least the third season -- including its unforgettable use in the climax of "Yesterday's Enterprise."

Heh, I never realized that, despite all the times I've watched both the above clip and that episode.

 

[tomalak301]

I say we call it the TMP theme as that's where it originated. Of course the TNG had an alternative theme by Dennis McCarthy before they decided to use the TMP theme

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NvulPF-IGc[/yt]

I'm glad they went with the Goldsmith theme. The alternate sounds really Galaxy Quest, but since this was before GQ, it's really really corny.

 

[Christopher]

But if you listen closely, the second through fifth notes of McCarthy's alternate theme are essentially the same as the first four notes of the Alexander Courage TOS fanfare.

 

[martok2112]

By far the best in Star Trek Insurrection when it comes to the end credit theme following Final Frontier and First Contact. Its the same theme used in Star Trek The Next Generation for it's opening and closing credit. I guess we can call the Next Generation theme song not really a theme for TOS.

The theme you're talking about was written by Jerry Goldsmith for Star Trek: The Motion Picture in 1979, then reused by The Next Generation eight years later, as well as by Goldsmith in all the later films he scored (so that's 1, 5, 8, 9, and 10, not 6).

This.

Goldsmith's themes from TMP are still the best out of everything in the entire Star Trek canon for me. His reinterpretations for the later films, and the TNG version don't have that same... magisterial feel to them.

I feel the same way about the TMP theme, and the Klingon theme. They were at their best in TMP...and lost their majesty with subsequent films. The reused Klingon theme in TFF was just....comical.

 

[scotpens]

I say we call it the TMP theme as that's where it originated. Of course the TNG had an alternative theme by Dennis McCarthy before they decided to use the TMP theme

I'm glad they went with the Goldsmith theme. The alternate sounds really Galaxy Quest, but since this was before GQ, it's really really corny.

McCarthy's theme sounds like swashbuckling music to me. I keep expecting a couple of guys to whip out their swords.

 

[Christopher]

McCarthy's theme sounds like swashbuckling music to me. I keep expecting a couple of guys to whip out their swords.

Well, Roddenberry did famously tell Alexander Courage that he wanted "Captain Blood" music rather than spacey electronics. There was always a bit of swashbuckling in TOS music. McCarthy originally embraced the same style, until Berman (or whoever) started pushing for the music to be dialed back.

 

[TheVortaKeevan]

By far the best in Star Trek Insurrection when it comes to the end credit theme following Final Frontier and First Contact. Its the same theme used in Star Trek The Next Generation for it's opening and closing credit. I guess we can call the Next Generation theme song not really a theme for TOS.

The theme you're talking about was written by Jerry Goldsmith for Star Trek: The Motion Picture in 1979, then reused by The Next Generation eight years later, as well as by Goldsmith in all the later films he scored (so that's 1, 5, 8, 9, and 10, not 6).

This.

Goldsmith's themes from TMP are still the best out of everything in the entire Star Trek canon for me. His reinterpretations for the later films, and the TNG version don't have that same... magisterial feel to them.

It sounds a little dated like some movie soundtracks I've listen to from the 1980s. I prefer the Insurrection reinterpretation over the original. This sounds the best out of all of them.

 

[Firebird]

It sounds a little dated like some movie soundtracks I've listen to from the 1980s. I prefer the Insurrection reinterpretation over the original. This sounds the best out of all of them.

The Insurrection version is, much like the film itself, forgettable for me. By the 90's, Goldsmith was throwing so much reverb into his scores, that they sound far more dated to me than his 60's and 70's scores. It also doesn't help that, by then, Goldsmith was splitting the scoring duties with his son, Joel, IIRC, which kinda makes it less special in my eyes. The TMP score is truly timeless, whereas TFF and Insurrection are products of their times. TMP, Patton, Sand Pebbles, and The Wind and the Lion are classic scores that sound just as good and are as distinctive today as when they first came out.

 

[eyeresist]

I say we call it the TMP theme as that's where it originated. Of course the TNG had an alternative theme by Dennis McCarthy before they decided to use the TMP theme.

Not very memorable, and very 70s.

 

[Christopher]

It also doesn't help that, by then, Goldsmith was splitting the scoring duties with his son, Joel, IIRC, which kinda makes it less special in my eyes.

The only Star Trek movie on which Joel Goldsmith contributed to the musical score was First Contact (though he did work on the sound effects in TMP).

 

[TheVortaKeevan]

It sounds a little dated like some movie soundtracks I've listen to from the 1980s. I prefer the Insurrection reinterpretation over the original. This sounds the best out of all of them.

The Insurrection version is, much like the film itself, forgettable for me. By the 90's, Goldsmith was throwing so much reverb into his scores, that they sound far more dated to me than his 60's and 70's scores. It also doesn't help that, by then, Goldsmith was splitting the scoring duties with his son, Joel, IIRC, which kinda makes it less special in my eyes. The TMP score is truly timeless, whereas TFF and Insurrection are products of their times. TMP, Patton, Sand Pebbles, and The Wind and the Lion are classic scores that sound just as good and are as distinctive today as when they first came out.

That your opinion, but I like the soundtrack for Insurrection. I didn't care for TMP soundtrack all that much

 

[Firebird]

It also doesn't help that, by then, Goldsmith was splitting the scoring duties with his son, Joel, IIRC, which kinda makes it less special in my eyes.

The only Star Trek movie on which Joel Goldsmith contributed to the musical score was First Contact (though he did work on the sound effects in TMP).

I stand corrected. Thanks, Christopher!

That your opinion, but I like the soundtrack for Insurrection.

Hence, why I stressed it was in MY opinion throughout my post. Music is entirely subjective.

 

[TheVortaKeevan]

It also doesn't help that, by then, Goldsmith was splitting the scoring duties with his son, Joel, IIRC, which kinda makes it less special in my eyes.

The only Star Trek movie on which Joel Goldsmith contributed to the musical score was First Contact (though he did work on the sound effects in TMP).

I stand corrected. Thanks, Christopher!

That your opinion, but I like the soundtrack for Insurrection.

Hence, why I stressed it was in MY opinion throughout my post. Music is entirely subjective.

Yes you did and music is quite subjective.

 

[Tulin]

I say we call it the TMP theme as that's where it originated. Of course the TNG had an alternative theme by Dennis McCarthy before they decided to use the TMP theme

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NvulPF-IGc[/yt]

I'm glad they went with the Goldsmith theme. The alternate sounds really Galaxy Quest, but since this was before GQ, it's really really corny.

It REALLY is.

It's corny, generic and clichéd.

Reminds me of the hackneyed main theme from "The Last Starfighter", which kinda worked in the '80's but today sounds like "Fun Space Adventure Movie Soundtrack 101".