ST VI titles and Trek title sequence color choice

[22 Stars]

Just caught ST VI on HBO Family HD and thought I would see if anyone else ever cares about the colors of the titles in the Trek films? Pink/Purple seems to work for VI, a lot of purple (pepto) Klingon blood in the movie. Red would have worked too, but is notoriously difficult for video to render accurately.

Any other thoughts for any of the Trek movie titles? There is an interesting note about STTMP DE title colors in the podcast from startrek.com.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Red would have worked too, but is notoriously difficult for video to render accurately.

I recall watching "Capricorn One" when home video was rather new. I watched the distinctive, red end credits appear on-air - completely legible - then replayed the last part of the taped movie, to line it up for my next item to be recorded... and the taped red credits were a blurry mess.

 

[JarodRussell]

I still don't think that the Klingon blood is only purple because of the rating (or because of video quality, since film has no problems with the color red). It clearly was an element of the story (because Col. Worf recognizes "That is not Klingon blood). And I've always seen the color choice of the credits to be a part of that.

 

[22 Stars]

Good anecdote Ian! In film school we were taught that NTSC really stands for Never The Same Color

 

[ATimson]

Good anecdote Ian! In film school we were taught that NTSC really stands for Never The Same Color

True, but Ian lives in Australia, aka PAL-land.

 

[22 Stars]

Good anecdote Ian! In film school we were taught that NTSC really stands for Never The Same Color

True, but Ian lives in Australia, aka PAL-land.

Good point! I guess none of the home video standards back in the day did a very good job at saturated colors anyway.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Good point! I guess none of the home video standards back in the day did a very good job at saturated colors anyway.

I had PAL Betamax in those days, but those red closing credits incident was probably the only time where the recording had so noticeably missed the mark. Ah, yeah, and sometimes the big yellow "Pow!" captions, during a 60s "Batman" fight scene, would have some static lines inside them.

 

[Sci]

I still don't think that the Klingon blood is only purple because of the rating (or because of video quality, since film has no problems with the color red). It clearly was an element of the story (because Col. Worf recognizes "That is not Klingon blood).

Is there any particular reason that they couldn't have known before filming that scene that they'd need to have non-red blood to avoid an R rating, and just incorporated that fact into the scene before filming it?

 

[22 Stars]

Well, we know they needed TWO different blood colors all along, because they wrote and shot a whole scene where the different blood color was a plot point...(because Col. Worf recognizes "That is not Klingon blood).

 

[Sci]

Well, we know they needed TWO different blood colors all along, because they wrote and shot a whole scene where the different blood color was a plot point...(because Col. Worf recognizes "That is not Klingon blood).

Well, no, that doesn't mean they knew they'd need two blood colors all along. It's entirely possible that they planned out the Gorkon assassination scene aboard Qo'noS One and then realized that to avoid an R rating, they'd need different colors for Klingon blood, and that they only then inserted that brief snippet where Colonel Worf recognizes that West's blood was not Klingon.

 

[Data Holmes]

I never had a problem with the pepto-blood for the Klingons myself. I figured the exact makeup of their blood oxidized differently than human blood, just like Vulcan and andorian blood.

As to title colors, I always liked TWOK's blue. And the mist to metallic of FC as well.

 

[Kolrad]

The opening credits in Star Trek VI gradually cycled through the entire color spectrum, I think.

 

[22 Stars]

Not quite. They moved from slightly bluer to purple and back, never straying too far..

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=496&page=1

 

[22 Stars]

I never had a problem with the pepto-blood for the Klingons myself. I figured the exact makeup of their blood oxidized differently than human blood, just like Vulcan and andorian blood.

As to title colors, I always liked TWOK's blue. And the mist to metallic of FC as well.

I'll agree with that. And it doesn't hurt that the music in both cases really backs them up... superior scores.

 

[Kolrad]

Ah; I see. They stuck to the cool colors.

 

[Maurice]

Well, no, that doesn't mean they knew they'd need two blood colors all along. It's entirely possible that they planned out the Gorkon assassination scene aboard Qo'noS One and then realized that to avoid an R rating, they'd need different colors for Klingon blood, and that they only then inserted that brief snippet where Colonel Worf recognizes that West's blood was not Klingon.

'Fraid not. As discussed a while back...

"There was a debate over the color of blood, which I wanted to be different than human blood. I wound up choosing a pink shade that seemed suitably weird, only to regret my choice down the road when I realized it reminded me of Pepto Bismol."

--Nicholas Meyer, The View From the Bridge, p.217

 

[Sci]

Well, no, that doesn't mean they knew they'd need two blood colors all along. It's entirely possible that they planned out the Gorkon assassination scene aboard Qo'noS One and then realized that to avoid an R rating, they'd need different colors for Klingon blood, and that they only then inserted that brief snippet where Colonel Worf recognizes that West's blood was not Klingon.

'Fraid not. As discussed a while back...

"There was a debate over the color of blood, which I wanted to be different than human blood. I wound up choosing a pink shade that seemed suitably weird, only to regret my choice down the road when I realized it reminded me of Pepto Bismol."

--Nicholas Meyer, The View From the Bridge, p.217

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

Though I'm glad that every production before and since has kept their blood red.

 

[FormerLurker]

I've lived by the theory that the pink blood was a result of radiation from Praxis, and as they heal it goes back to the very dark red we see elsewhere.

 

[22 Stars]

Lol that is some life theory there!