So where exactly did Kruge's shot hit the Enterprise?

[enterprisecvn65]

I've watched it several times, slowed it down, paused it.....but I still can't say with exact certainty where the torpedo Kruge fired at the Enterprise his.

The shot that shows where it his tell us it hits on some point on the rear port side of the saucer, but it, unlike TWOK, it doesn't hit seem to clearly hit a specific spot and there's no black scorch mark visible in any later shot to tell.

To me it could have hit the rear of the saucer, but it could also have hit near the bridge, or even the front of the port warp engine.

It's made even harder to tell because when it hits it spreads out all these energy beams and electricity over a large area instead of clearly destroying a certain area.

If it hit the rear saucer, like it's implied then why were there explosions on the bridge, which is some distance away.

Anyone believe know where the exact impact point was.

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

I haven't watched it in at least several years, but my memory is that it hit the port warp engine...

 

[Vger23]

I always believed it hit the front of the port warp nacelle.

 

[martok2112]

I still view it as hitting the rear of the saucer, near the impulse deflection crystal.

 

[fonzob1]

Right in the kisser! LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmUYrgkRXuI

 

[Cyke101]

I haven't watched it in at least several years, but my memory is that it hit the port warp engine...

I always believed it hit the front of the port warp nacelle.

Agreed on both counts. That's what I thought, too.

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

This made me curious, so I looked up the scene in question on youtube. I still think it hit the nacelle...but I'm not absolutely 100% certain now. I wasn't able to do the freeze-frame thing there to be certain, but for an instant it does appear that you can see the flash of a torpedo between the nacelle and the saucer.

All I really gleaned, though, is that it is an oddly composed shot. One way or the other, the impact point is obscured by the ship.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I haven't watched it in at least several years, but my memory is that it hit the port warp engine...

I always believed it hit the front of the port warp nacelle.

Agreed on both counts. That's what I thought, too.

Me, too.

screencaps

You can see electricity around the port nacelle.

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

You can see electricity around the port nacelle.

And didn't Kruge also say "Target engine only...understand?" or some thing like that?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

You can see electricity around the port nacelle.

And didn't Kruge also say "Target engine only...understand?" or some thing like that?

Yep. The Klingons' plan had been to fire by surprise. Kirk turned the tables, though, and the Enterprise hit the Klingon ship first. Even though the Klingon ship was firing under different circumstances than they'd originally intended, we don't have any direct reason to believe that Kruge's orders to the gunner had changed.

 

[Maurice]

Nah, the impact point is clearly on the saucer (link).

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Nah, the impact point is clearly on the saucer (link).

That's pretty wonky, because the ship is already on fire.

 

[EnriqueH]

I used to think around the impulse drive in the back of the saucer, but more recently, I thought it hit the port nacelle.

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

I used to think around the impulse drive in the back of the saucer, but more recently, I thought it hit the port nacelle.

Which goes back to what I said about it being an oddly composed shot. You have the bridge area basically overlapping the impact area behind it. It didn't make a bit of difference while watching it, as you knew they just torpedoed an unshielded Enterprise, and the outcome would not be good. But for pure clarity of events sake, well...refer to this very dicussion!

 

[Nerys Myk]

The thermal exhaust port. It's as easy as shooting womp rats from a T-16.

 

[enterprisecvn65]

The thermal exhaust port. It's as easy as shooting womp rats from a T-16.

You mean bullseye womprats in his T-16.

Jesus I can't believe I know the correct word.

I do need to get out more often sometimes

 

[enterprisecvn65]

I always thought for realism sake it would have made the most sense it hitting near the base of the bridge structure. After all the bridge exploded violently the instant it hit. It seems that hitting the saucer farther back wouldn't cause that to happen and the warp nacelle would be even less likely to cause the bridge to explode.

Also I'm going to assume for design sake the automation center would be fairly near the bridge for quick access and not in some random rear part of the saucer and it certainly wouldn't be in a warp nacelle.

It's just a hard shot to determine.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The thermal exhaust port. It's as easy as shooting womp rats from a T-16.

You mean bullseye womprats in his T-16.

Jesus I can't believe I know the correct word.

I do need to get out more often sometimes

I paraphrased. I don't want people thinking I'm a nerd.

 

[Maurice]

Nah, the impact point is clearly on the saucer (link).

That's pretty wonky, because the ship is already on fire.

The fire is the point I meant, not the blue lens flare.

 

[Ssosmcin]

I thought it hit the rear glowing dome thing over the impulse engines, honestly.