• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

So, the IRS calls me...

Trekker4747

Boldly going...
Premium Member
So I come home from work and lay down and I'm kind of half napping, half vegging out when my phone rings. Not one of my contacts, unrecognized number/area code but, I'm curious; so I answer.

A woman with an Indian accent begins speaking saying she's calling from the IRS and says that they've found problems with my past tax-returns that's resulted in a large underpayment and penalties. I cannot contest the fees or fight them, they're due and if I fail to pay I could lose my driver's license (?!) and be subject to lose of assets, possessions and see jail-time.

As she's saying all of this I'm just giving sort-of answers like, "I see," "okay", "I understand," etc.

She has a good grasp of English, a few syntax errors but nothing that couldn't be chalked up to just mis-speaking and not due to her lack of command of the English language. In the background I hear what sounds like a TV playing, loudly.

She says I need to set-up payment for the fees right away and offers to transfer to me her supervisor to make the payment arrangements. I hang up. I was playing along and wanted to go one but lost interest quickly.

The underpayment was supposedly several thousand dollars. Incredible considering I'm single, short-form, use standard deductions, have filed 0 at my job and have no meaningful assets to be taxed.

Obviously a phishing scam. A reverse-look up of the number find it to be a Washington, D.C. area code and the exchange connect to a mobile carrier. IRS my ass, they're more likely to first contact you using the mail than they are a phone number.

Looking up the number on-line also turns up others reporting this number trying to pull the same, or similar, scams.

It's amazing to me that there must be some people out there who fall for this stuff. I suppose the very elderly and the very young and naive are more susceptible but that still means a great deal of people who'd fall for this and likely would've gone on with the scam and given out critical personal information.

Anyone else have similar experiences with phishing scams over the phone? Sometimes it's really odd to me what the phishers thing they can get away with. I swear with the TV in the background I heard children noises or other conversation. Any time I've spoken with someone from a call center it's a pretty quite conversation without much if any background noise.
 
Last edited:
We got a ton of those calls a few months ago for my mom. I was so tempted to answer sometimes and ask, "Are you aware how much negative karma you're building up?"
I gave a caller from one of those grandparent scams an earful one time. "You're not their grandkid. Does your mother know you're doing this?!"
 
Got a call today from 210-301-0307. Caller ID said Builders Square, which has been bankrupt, bought, bankrupt, bought, and bankrupt again. Caller said he was tech support and my computer was compromised. I gave him my standard reply:

Hanging up on this phone call does not exonerate you of your $25 debt. This is a legal cease and desist notice. You are hereby notified to cease and desist all contact with this phone number. There is a $25 notification and processing fee. Your legal debt is now $25. A $100 late fee will be assessed monthly on the first of each month to any outstanding balance on your account. Your consent is automatic. All payments are made by Paypal to (paypal account). Thank you for your swift cooperation in resolving your legal debt. Have a nice day.



CCC.
 
^I've gotten calls like these, as well. Usually, it's someone claiming to represent a collection agency or litigation firm; I hang up when they call, but I must admit I've been temped to ask, "What do you tell people you do for a living?"

It's pathetic that they spend their time harassing others with countless phone calls. I've reported a few of the numbers, albeit with limited success. Most of the numbers are spoofed or blocked, making it virtually impossible to track them down.

--Sran
 
Anyone else have similar experiences with phishing scams over the phone?
Not by telephone, but a couple of years ago my computer got infected with the FBI Cybercrime scam virus.


I've gotten calls like these, as well. Usually, it's someone claiming to represent a collection agency or litigation firm; I hang up when they call, but I must admit I've been temped to ask, "What do you tell people you do for a living?"
If it were me, I'd tell them I'm a pimp. It's more respectable.
 
And there is your computer has a virus one, yes but when you ask which computer has the virus. They seem unable to answer.
 
It upsets me to read that because I do know people who would be terrified and overcome with anxiety and probably just about die if they got that call. Ugh.
 
I've known at least four or five people this year who have been contacted by this scam. Good for you that you didn't fall for it. Not all people are as quick-witted.

The IRS will never collect or harass you over the phone like this. They will always send you something in writing and documentation. If you get contacted by someone claiming to be the IRS or any other government agency wanting money from you, that'll be your first clue about whether its a legit issue or not.
 
There are various fake I.R.S. scam calls going around and they've increased in number the last couple years for obvious reasons.


But there are also other scams. Somebody I know almost fell for a scammer because they crank caller cited a court case number. I kept trying and trying and trying to get him to understand that the crank caller can say what ever they want to fool you and that in real life if you are being sued you find out when you are served in person by an officer of the law, that it's handled locally. He couldn't get passed the court number -- his brain was stuck on stupid. He wanted me to look up the phone number to make sure. I said "yes", and when out of sight, tore it up and trashed it and told him it was a scam.


There are several videos on youtube that people who can record their calls, should watch. There are ways to lead on and handle a telemarketer; not only for fun which you can play for others, but also to waste their time (oh they hate that).
This is a personal favorite of mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmKtS-k12b0
 
I've known at least four or five people this year who have been contacted by this scam. Good for you that you didn't fall for it. Not all people are as quick-witted.

The IRS will never collect or harass you over the phone like this. They will always send you something in writing and documentation. If you get contacted by someone claiming to be the IRS or any other government agency wanting money from you, that'll be your first clue about whether its a legit issue or not.

It just didn't pass the sniff test. I was watching some videos on YT of people dealing with this scam, playing along with the phisher for the humor of the video, and techniques used by the scammer mostly came down to "pay us now or we'll have local law enforcement at your home in the next 45 minutes as we have a warrant out for your arrest."

It's astonishing tome people would fall for this. People do, but it's just astonishing that people would think the IRS would send the local police to you inside of an hour for not paying a supposed back-taxes fee. I'm sure there's quite a few steps between there and here.
 
]Anyone else have similar experiences with phishing scams over the phone? Sometimes it's really odd to me what the phishers thing they can get away with. I swear with the TV in the background I heard children noises or other conversation. Any time I've spoken with someone from a call center it's a pretty quite conversation without much if any background noise.

I got the IRS one (which doesn't act like a collection agency and make harassing phone calls out of the blue) asking for my credit card number to pay back taxes I didn't owe, which reverse look-up said was in Texas, but was probably India.

And I got one from Microsoft Security Center (which doesn't make unsolicited phone calls) saying I had a virus, and he wanted to remote operate my computer to fix it. I started screwing with him and acting like I couldn't follow his commands and he got impatient with me like a real tech support guy would. Finally I hung up after a couple minutes.

It's amazing to me that there must be some people out there who fall for this stuff. I suppose the very elderly and the very young and naive are more susceptible but that still means a great deal of people who'd fall for this and likely would've gone on with the scam and given out critical personal information.

Well, most tech support and call center calls come from South Asia anyway, so these coming from there too lend it an air of validity. Then the scripts are very well-rehearsed and authoritative, so it sounds genuine to a layman.

Plus, people naturally tend towards wanting to cooperate with instructions when faced with something scary and there's an authoritative sounding voice offering to help, sometimes even when they're telling themselves this doesn't seem right. That's why people confess to police all the time, sometimes for crimes they didn't even commit. The police don't need the good cop, bad cop routine like on TV; usually they just calmly sit you down and offer to help you tell your version of events or clear your name, when you shouldn't say anything without speaking to an attorney first and having them in the room, even if you're innocent.

Anyway, it's easy to just dismiss people who fall for these scams as fools, but if you were inexperienced in dealing with these things it can easily sound close enough to the truth that you'll comply despite the nagging voice in the back of your head telling you not to.
 
Sometimes even genuine callers from my bank have had the most bizarre reactions to my scepticism (despite what it says on their own literature about being careful). My bank rang me out of the blue recently on, it turned out, legitimate business, but started by asking me to confirm my address and date of birth for identity purposes. Hang on! You phoned me, you tell me what my bloody address is. I know my identity, it's yours I'm concerned about :lol:
 
I got the computer virus calls, too. It was happening daily. On one of the later calls, I replied, "Is this the computer company that fixed my computer yesterday? You're saying it's broken again. Well, I'm not paying twice so you're fixing it for free this time until you get it right." They hung up on me.
 
The deal here has to do with SIM cards. They are much more portable and more of an active factor in cellphone use. A bizarre International mobile number will show up on your "missed calls" list while you slumber. So many here are almost pathological about calling back, partly out of learned behavior that important calls can come from almost any mobile number and partly because there are relative few land line numbers. No transmission lines and that is not the way it goes here. Mobile is King, even for many business. So you call them back, and you get the excellent news that you have won One Zillion Scamboian Dollars, and all you have to do is confirm it is you by confirming your sim number. You excitedly give them anything they ask for and, Khallas, they clone your sim number and you start getting bills from Eritria and Cestus III. But. You do not get One Zillion Anything's, except Stupids!
 
What you thought was a TV in the background was likely a hundred other people at that same Indian call center.

I hear the same thing whenever I'm talking to a company's "customer service".

I get a lot of unrecognizable #'s, blocked and restricted calls. I never answer them. If it's important, they'll leave a message.

My own multi-billion dollar pharma company has farmed it's tech support out to an Indian contractor/call center. Cheap bastards.
 
Anyone else have similar experiences with phishing scams over the phone?
Not by telephone, but a couple of years ago my computer got infected with the FBI Cybercrime scam virus.

My old laptop got infected by something similar a couple of years ago but thankfully a system restore got rid of it. Oddly I had that FBI one flash up a couple of months ago, but my computer wasn't locked and I've seen no sign of anything iffy since then so either thee's something nefarious on my laptop that my virus scanner never picked up on, or I got real lucky!

I've never had a call like that, but as someone else has said I have, at times, been very curt with people calling from my mobile provider wanting me to give them information to confirm I am who I say I am, even though they've called me!

And I got a letter through about 18 months ago asking for a lot of information to track down some funds that may be owed me, it turned out it was genuine and related to a v old pension pot but crikey I dug into it very deeply before I replied!

I think everyone is guilty of a certain level of gullibility, it's just that sadly some are more gullible than others, especially as has been said the older generation :( Frankly the people who perpetrate these scams are scum.
 
Well, you never rely on just one scanner and you never just scan in regular mode -- you also scan in Safe Mode.

I'm not expert, but I've had ones help me for myself and another person before. Combos of scanners run in regular and Safe Mode were used.

Malwarebytes (one of the top free anti-virus programs)
AdwCleaner (another good fre program)
TDSSKiller
Rkill

(all available from a place where people will help you: bleepingcomputer.com; you can also read up on what you may have)

And the one-time (unloes you clear cookies) online scanner just to be sure: ESET.com
 
Jeez, if you're doing that much scanning you must be spending alot of time on dodgy sites. Just do what I do for "unsafe" browsing. Install Oracle's Virtual Box (free) and setup a virtual computer within it to surf from. If anything gets infected on the virtual computer you just wipe it and startup a new clone of it. Nothing gets out of the virtual session to actually infect your PC.

My PC has never been infected and all I use is MSE.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top