So on the entire planet...

[Trekker4747]

...Edo everyday they choose one "punishment zone" where the scantly-dressed and free-swinging "Mediators" will oversee. If somone "breaks a law" in this zone (say by acting like an idiot and crashing through a small green house structure) that person is instanly put to death.

And Wesley managed to find this ONE spot on the whole damn planet?

Dayum.

 

[Michael]

Maybe it's a small planet?

 

[Captrek]

...Edo everyday they choose one "punishment zone" where the scantly-dressed and free-swinging "Mediators" will oversee.

No, not really. They just made that up so they’d have an excuse to kill Wesley. I wish I’d thought of it.

 

[nx1701g]

...Edo everyday they choose one "punishment zone" where the scantly-dressed and free-swinging "Mediators" will oversee. If somone "breaks a law" in this zone (say by acting like an idiot and crashing through a small green house structure) that person is instanly put to death.

And Wesley managed to find this ONE spot on the whole damn planet?

Dayum.

The Edo were just saying he'd found a punishment zone. Truth be told the girl he was flirting with was the First Hedonist's Daughter and they needed a reason to kill him. See the First Hedonist was a real xenophobe but admitting it would mean the end of his political career as a hedonist and there we go.

 

[Amaris]

Just watched this episode.



I'd risk it.


J.

 

[RAMA]

The point of this episode and the final 5 minutes or so are really awesome, but the execution...oh the execution....

RAMA

 

[Trekker4747]

The point of this episode and the final 5 minutes or so are really awesome, but the execution...oh the execution....

RAMA

Agreed Rama and well said.

I could've done without silk-encases men's batches in this episode.

Oh, and fried-perms.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

The point of this episode and the final 5 minutes or so are really awesome, but the execution...oh the execution....

RAMA

Agreed Rama and well said.

I could've done without silk-encases men's batches in this episode.

Oh, and fried-perms.

Funny, I thought the final five minutes were a s bad as the 55 that came before. YMMV.

 

[Anwar]

At least they had Picard just say "Screw it", try to rescue Wesley without quoting the PD. They had the God stop them.

 

[Timo]

They never told how large the Zones are. For all we know, there are something like a hundred big cities on that planet - and each is a Zone for part of the day! All we know is that a Zone can be patrolled by the Mediators. And since the Edoans seem to have reasonably high technology, thus probably rapid transportation for Mediators as well, an entire city could be a practicable Zone considering the observed reaction times.

I mean, the risk of being in a Zone would have to be tangible if there were to be deterrence value. 1:5000 would still be a gamble a criminal might take. 1:500 would stop most sane people. And even the lunatics would think twice at 1:50. But that calls for big Zones, if each only lasts for a day or so.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[SeerSGB]

There may not really be punishment zones. It could be simply that if you break any rule any where they call "oh you're in a punishment zone!"

 

[Captrek]

There may not really be punishment zones. It could be simply that if you break any rule any where they call "oh you're in a punishment zone!"

Only if you’re an annoying know-it-all little twerp, or somebody else who would be really fun to kill.

 

[Trekker4747]

There are some games I don't know how to play yet.

 

[Butters]

Haven't seen this one years, but why were they trying to negociate shoreleave on a pre-warp world? Does the prime directive not apply to freelove societies?

 

[Timo]

We've never really heard that pre-warp means off limits. The only known criterion for off-limits is "these folks don't know yet that there are aliens in outer space". And for all we know, the Edo were perfectly aware of space aliens, and indeed actively contacted the E-D heroes, welcoming them to their planet.

Remember the seemingly primitive TOS cultures with which Kirk still was in open contact? The Halkans, Capellans, possibly some brands of Rigelians... As long as they know of aliens (perhaps because the Klingons paid a visit?), the "damage" is already done, and the Feds can waltz in and do whatever good they want.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Anwar]

That's it, usually "Pre-Warp" and "don't know about aliens" go hand in hand. But in the case of the Edo they already knew and just didn't go traveling through space so the PD didn't apply.

 

[Trekker4747]

Yeah, the criteria seams to be more "aware of space civilization" than it is "post-warp."

 

[Timo]

One wonders if the Edo God had a hand in making the Edo space-aware.

For all we know, the Edo were ancient starfarers who had retreated to their planet, built God to protect them, and then actively regressed to a blissful state of relative technological ignorance...

Alternately, outsiders had rudely awakened the Edo to the reality of the interstellar community, and God had seen it, felt pity, and stepped in as the guardian of the Edo, but had not completely stopped them from communicating with the outside universe.

In the general case, one would think that space-aware pre-warp societies would be common. After all, they could only remain space-unaware if protected by a prime directive, and most spacefaring cultures don't seem to have one.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[RAMA]

The point of this episode and the final 5 minutes or so are really awesome, but the execution...oh the execution....

RAMA

Agreed Rama and well said.

I could've done without silk-encases men's batches in this episode.

Oh, and fried-perms.

Funny, I thought the final five minutes were a s bad as the 55 that came before. YMMV.

Nope

 

[Brutal Strudel]

Agreed Rama and well said.

I could've done without silk-encases men's batches in this episode.

Oh, and fried-perms.

Funny, I thought the final five minutes were a s bad as the 55 that came before. YMMV.

Nope

Yeah. Whatever.