Should we get 24th century movie/mini-series to bring closure to that era of Trek?

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  1. Jayson1

    Jayson1 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I agree with people who feel it is time to move on from those shows and that era but am I the only who would like to see something done that sends it out with respect? "TOS" got "Undiscovered Country" and TNG,DS9,Voyager got nothing. "Nemesis" was a bad film and really feels like a bad way to go out on. I would love to see something that used a lot of the more popular characters and used a story that felt like a big love letter to the hardcore fans. I think it would help a lot of fans to be able to move onto a new show that is no longer apart of the franchise we have been following for a very long time.

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  2. ChristopherPike

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    I would really liked to have seen one last outing for the 24th Century, featuring a mixed cast headed up by Patrick Stewart.

    Watching Logan kind of rammed home on my feelings of sadness not seeing him play Picard one last time.

    There are any number of reasons why not. Disappointment will only set in I suppose, if Discovery turns out to be a false dawn, becoming just another part of the back catalogue streaming on CBS, Netflix etc. In which case, it might've been better to cater to existing fans of existing series and go for that cast reunion aspect in revivals attempted by Babylon 5, The X-Files and so on. Revivals that are designed to be short-lived anyway. Long enough to explore what ever happened to X characters decades after we last saw them. Tell a story with such a set purpose and then end it. Or in the case of X-Files, not I guess. But with a TNG era mini-series, don't make that mistake of ending on a cliffhanger, not knowing when it can even be resolved.
     
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    I had a thread about an alleged post Nemesis TNG/DS9/Voy Movie which in my humble opinion if done well would have served as an effective closure for the 80% of Trek set in the 24th century.
     
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  4. Tenacity

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    This.

    Forget what the passage of years did to Stewart, Frakes, Crosby, Dorn McFadden, Wheaton or SIrtis. Throw together a nice script and let the fans have what we want. Figure out a way to incorporate TOS and ENT into the mix.

    The usual forty-three vocal "fans" will bitch, screw 'um.
     
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    I've made peace with the fact it ain't happening.
     
  6. psCargile

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    Like the last episode of Loveboat.

    OK, OK, M.A.S.H.

    (M.A.S.H. theme song plays in your head.)
     
  7. Tesophius

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    That would be great. Or even just a Picard-focused movie with a bit of time travel thrown in there, exploring his academy days as well as his ultimate retirement, with a last mission to save someone/something, with the production value of the Kelvin-universe movies. There's never been a Star Trek movie that wasn't profitable, even Nemesis was slightly profitable, so why not?
     
  8. wayne66

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    I would love to see a min-series or even a season long 24th century Trek finale. This year is the 30th anniversary of TNG, so I think it would be a great time to bring most of the characters back from TNG,DS9, VOY etc. Focus on the Enterprise, Titan, DS9 and VOY crew. See what happened to them. Wrap it up.
     
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  9. Ralphis

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    While I'm on board with Discovery and hope it's successful, I'll admit I'm kind of hungry for something post-VOY. I'm not sure if it would work as a movie, but I think a mini-series/limited-run series with a mixed cast of TNG/DS9/VOY characters and some new characters would be perfect. And if it's well watched and received, you can always develop a new show based on said mini-series/limited-run series. Just my three cents.
     
  10. Rahul

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    You know what?

    I would f*cking love a version of Space Cowboys with the old guard in the 24th century:



    Heck, this doesn't need to be a strict TNG movie. This can be a crossover TNG-era movie:
    Starfleet doesn't know what to do with an old, rogue Borg cube, except that it calls for "Locutus". Now they have to try to get the whole gang together: Pick an old, senile Picard up from his wineyard in France, a malfunctioning Data/B4 from his university, a snobbish Geordie from his science project et al. All being kind of cranky, old, clashing with the new "young ones" at Starfleet that know how to do their jobs better. Make it happen on Captain fat Riker's ship, so that Riker and Picard are constantly tipping on each other's toes who's boss.

    Hell, invite Seven of Nine, Janeway, Worf, O'Brien and Bashir for shits and giggles. Everyone who's a good actor willing to make a bit fun of himself while also giving a heart-felt goodbye. Also, give old-as-fuck-Picard a dune buggy chase scene, just because.
     
  11. Nyotarules

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    The last time the fans got a 'big love letter' it was more like a subpeona for a divorce aka TATV, no love letters please!
     
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  12. Markonian

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    Not gonna happen - the 24th century cow has been milked for all it's worth. A new movie would be a box office bomb.

    Or just read the novels.
     
  13. OpenMaw

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    As much as i'd love to see some of the old gang ala "The X-Files" relaunch where they called in to deal with something that only they would have the experience/know how to deal with, I think the time for that was prior to the reboot in 2009.
     
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  14. Nerys Myk

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    Why do we need closure? It's a TV franchise.
     
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    You're right.

    What we need is an iron stake, an axe, and a torch.
     
  16. Brainsucker

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    It's too late now. It would be good if they did it shortly after the end of Nemesis. But not today.
     
  17. unimatrix7

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    I had the same feeling.

    It shits me to tears that the 24th century Trek shows are regarded as the red-headed step children of the franchise. Everything from now on exists to service TOS nostalgia, ignoring that modern Star Trek was built on TNG and that the majority of Star Trek is set in the 24th century. Everything else is either TOS, or TOS-chasing nostalgiaporn.

    TOS was cancelled after 3 seasons. Enterprise after 4. TNG, DS9, and Voyager were lasted 7 and were never under threat of cancellation. I think it's very odd to keep chasing the TOS formula by always going backward.

    Just one man's opinion. I'm sure most disagree.
     
  18. Smellmet

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    I made my peace with it as soon as Nemesis' box office figures came in.
     
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    I posted a wishlist for a TV miniseries a while ago.

    Start with a TOS or movie era pre-credit teaser using existing footage wherever possible, with additional dialogue recorded by Shat and co. The Enterprise finds 'something unusual' and by calling up logs from Archers Enterprise, which encountered something similar, manage to defeat or deal with the situation.

    Post credits, in the 24th century the 'something' reappears and whichever TNG/DS9/Voyager cast can be assembled deal with it over a few episodes. Further alumni can be brought in as it continues. Research on the problem would involve an extended Archers Enterprise flashback, giving further background information.

    Whatever the 'something' would be I have no idea - some sort of threat or MacGuffin, would be required, but as a rough format it would give a fair amount of scope for including people.
     
  20. TheAdmiralty

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    There just isn't a critical mass of people interested in something like that. There's maybe a tiny chance of some kind of TNG reunion thing but even that's a longshot; Ds9 and VOY are just over. I'm not a big Ds9 fan, but isn't their finale well received by the show's fanbase? No need to give them another "sendoff" after all these years. I think you could also call that "closure: to the 24th Century in that it resolved the ongoing TNG era issues. Voyager was its own separate thing and Nemesis was self contained.
     
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