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Seven's Parents

Seven's parents were.....


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Zephram got drunk and talked about them on the record.

There's probably footage of that still somewhere in the 24th century.
 
Dude, if you call where you've lived millenniums instead of centuries, compassionate people will at the very least buy you dinner.
 
There are people all over the world right studying things you've never heard of. It doesn't mean you live in a bubble; it just means that there's A LOT of stuff out there!

Starfleet didn't have any concrete information on the Borg. There was no reason for Picard to have ever heard of them...unless he took some Delta Quadrant Mythology course at the Academy. Even the Hansens were just following rumors and hearsay.

The Hansen's gave Seven a Borg cube to play with (before ever encountering them!) clearly people knew shit about them

Picard isn't a butcher in a Danish Village. He's captain of the Federation's flagship. He was an adult when the Hansen's were disobeying Starfleet's order to come back. He would certainly be aware of the rumours

More importantly, what about Q? He swans about smugly explaining that humanity has never encountered anything like this before (oh except for all those humans who have been gossiping about them, discussing them, studying them, building cubes for their kids to play with and even following them into the Delta quadrant)

"But apart from that, Piicard!!!........humanity has never encountered anything like this, mwah ha ha"
 
Holly, the ship's computer from Red Dwarf, had read all the books in Red Dwarf's library. Since there were no new books available, Holly had Lister delete his memories of having ever read the works of Agatha Christie, so that Holly could do-over the experience of reading Christie for the first time again.

Maybe Q deleted all previously acquired human knowledge of the Borg from Picard, and his human crew (but not the alien Bartender) before their second season adventure together really got started?
 
They were idealistic anthropologists who had grown up in the peaceful cocoon of the Federation and had no idea of how dangerous the galaxy really could be,

There is accuracy in this which makes the "incompetent" option even more accurate.

They took risks bolstered by their idealism and if 7 had just ended up socially stunted and removed from other people for years it would be a shame but not a disaster. But what happened to her is so horrifying that it's hard not to be very angry at her parents.

I have to agree with this although - according to the TV series - the Hansens paid for their crimes with eternal servitude.


According to the novels, however they likely became part of the Caeliar gestalt, and currently are in better shape than Seven mentally and physically.
 
There are people all over the world right studying things you've never heard of. It doesn't mean you live in a bubble; it just means that there's A LOT of stuff out there!

Starfleet didn't have any concrete information on the Borg. There was no reason for Picard to have ever heard of them...unless he took some Delta Quadrant Mythology course at the Academy. Even the Hansens were just following rumors and hearsay.

The Hansen's gave Seven a Borg cube to play with (before ever encountering them!) clearly people knew shit about them

Picard isn't a butcher in a Danish Village. He's captain of the Federation's flagship. He was an adult when the Hansen's were disobeying Starfleet's order to come back. He would certainly be aware of the rumours

You assume the rumors are widespread. For all we know the Hansens read about them in a book when they were going to school. Maybe they replicated their own Borg cube model after talking to random merchants in the Neutral Zone. We just don't know.
 
You assume the rumors are widespread. For all we know the Hansens read about them in a book when they were going to school. Maybe they replicated their own Borg cube model after talking to random merchants in the Neutral Zone. We just don't know.

That's still an awful lot of people knowing stuff here, there and everywhere though (and that Borg cube was extremely detailed). What I do assume is that someone like Picard with a fascination for exploration and life on other worlds would certainly be very high on any list of people who would seek out and come into contact with that kind of rumour

They disregarded what was established by TNG purely to cut corners and get the Hansen's Borgified so they could then borrow Seven's parents magic skin tight body shielding and flesh out her back story. It totally undermines the importance of Q Who" for me (and unnecessarily)
 
Her parents were fanatics, idealogues who put their fantabulous theories and quest for being the ones to discover something over the safety of their child. They were idiots. Yes they should have left her with the aunt or, you know, NOT gone. You can't do everything when you have a kid and still responsibly raise the kid. This is normal smarts, which the Hansens did not have.

Everything rumoured about the Borg was presumably threatening. And yet they went far beyond the help of other ships.

As far as I'm concerned discussion can stop at this post - this covers it.
 
As far as I'm concerned discussion can stop at this post.

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Discussions never stop

NEVER!!

They just keep going until people no longer know what's happening and start discussing beard maintenance or the benefits of having a talking vagina

Save yourself, it's too late for us
 
As far as I'm concerned discussion can stop at this post.

You must be new here

Discussions never stop

NEVER!!

They just keep going until people no longer know what's happening and start discussing beard maintenance or the benefits of having a talking vagina

Save yourself, it's too late for us

LOL - actually made me laugh! By all means continue... I was just being dramatic :techman:
 
According to the novels, however they likely became part of the Caeliar gestalt, and currently are in better shape than Seven mentally and physically.

We see Seven's father as a drone, on board the Queen's ship (which was later destroyed). So it looks like he's space toast.

As for Seven herself: Do we know whether or not she wanted to accompany her parents on the mission? Maybe she thought it would be exciting, and asked to go along.
 
According to the novels, however they likely became part of the Caeliar gestalt, and currently are in better shape than Seven mentally and physically.

We see Seven's father as a drone, on board the Queen's ship (which was later destroyed). So it looks like he's space toast.

As for Seven herself: Do we know whether or not she wanted to accompany her parents on the mission? Maybe she thought it would be exciting, and asked to go along.

For all we know, she could have brought him on board just for Seven to see and them beamed him back whence he came.
 
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