Seven's Parents

[hux]

These people went searching for a rumour (a rumour the likes of Picard had apparently never come across?!.....more evidence that Picard lives in a bubble?) and chose to take their daughter with them. Couldn't they leave her with an aunt?

This could prove our theory. They ignore any life form until they consider it a threat, or a target

A theory based on what. This was the first time they had encountered them!

We've been tracking stray readings for nearly eight months now but there's still no sign of a vessel. I'm beginning to wonder if the Borg are nothing more than rumour and sensor echoes

Then how come little Seven has a mini Borg cube to play with. Where did they get that from?

It would seem clear that "someone" has been providing the Hanson's with a great deal of information about the Borg. We might presume it to be an El-Aurian. Momma Hanson mentions their colleagues thinking they are insane (so they've discussed the Borg with other scientists) as well as deviating from their flight plan and disobeying an order to return (so Starfleet know what they're up to as well)

I get that they needed to flesh out Seven's back story but I think the Hanson's being Borg experts was a mistake

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Her parents were fanatics, idealogues who put their fantabulous theories and quest for being the ones to discover something over the safety of their child. They were idiots. Yes they should have left her with the aunt or, you know, NOT gone. You can't do everything when you have a kid and still responsibly raise the kid. This is normal smarts, which the Hansens did not have.

Everything rumoured about the Borg was presumably threatening. And yet they went far beyond the help of other ships.

 

[Guy Gardener]

So they crossed the Romulan Neutral Zone.

That seems like it should be a sex thing.

You know like when you're making a road trip and cross into a new state, so you have christen it.

It's like, what if the sex they had while crossing the neutral zone was so fantastic, that they backed up and crossed it again, after Magnus is given 15 minutes to build up a new stiffy.

Stacked timelines.

Picard's history had no Borg in it when he met them in TNG Q Who?

Which means that every time shite was added to the past, TNG Q Who played out a little differently, until Picard was so aware of the Borg, that Q would have chosen a completely different and unknowable threat to put a chink in Picard's unfounded resolution.

 

[Disco]

So they crossed the Romulan Neutral Zone.

That seems like it should be a sex thing.

You know like when you're making a road trip and cross into a new state, so you have christen it.

It's like, what if the sex they had while crossing the neutral zone was so fantastic, that they backed up and crossed it again, after Magnus is given 15 minutes to build up a new stiffy.

Stacked timelines.

Picard's history had no Borg in it when he met them in TNG Q Who?

Which means that every time shite was added to the past, TNG Q Who played out a little differently, until Picard was so aware of the Borg, that Q would have chosen a completely different and unknowable threat to put a chink in Picard's unfounded resolution.

Wow

 

[Guy Gardener]

They're married.

It's not going to be interesting or hot, for anyone.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

That party trick would work better in the US of A than in Aus. 50 states vs 6.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You heard of 4 corners?

The convergence of Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah into a mathematical singularity.

 

[Jeri]

I wouldn't have taken a child out there; but in their universe people raise their children entirely in space. So it's a matter of perspective, I suppose. They were gathering intelligence that potentially could be of incalculable use to those wanting a defense against the Borg. It was a risk. But the same question could be asked of pioneer parents who took children into or created children while living in hostile territory in the Americas.

 

[hux]

I've only had sex in three countries (and two of them were England & Scotland)

 

[Guy Gardener]

I saw them as mostly anthropologists.

They wanted to study the Borg in their natural habitat, to understand them as a species.

Meanwhile, a few engineers who just wanted to strip and reverse engineer as much Borg technology as they could, as well as datamine the Collective's library computers could have been done their due diligence inside of a week and returned home with the fundamentals of Warp drive.

The Hansen's studied the Borg close up for 2 years.

 

[Jeri]

American pioneers lived in hostile territory their entire lives; kids got carried off by wild animals, disease and native Americans. It's the level of risk they were prepared to accept.

 

[Kilana2]

I didn´t know what to vote. I voted for incompetent, but that´s not it. Neither are they brilliant. They were naive in their approach of investigating the Borg.
But they are not uncaring or have neglected or mistreated Annika/Seven. At least not physically. Annika could have stayed with her aunt Irene, though.

But it´s Seven herself who bears a grudge against her parents.

They have denied her a normal childhood. The Voyager crew is now what she considers to be family.

 

[Jedi_Master]

They were idealistic anthropologists who had grown up in the peaceful cocoon of the Federation and had no idea of how dangerous the galaxy really could be, and what would happen if they messed with the wrong alien race. Bringing their daughter was a terrible mistake, but thanks to their error the galaxy was saved from the rampages of Species 8472.

So good job Hansens!

 

[bbjeg]

I dislike it when the answer is both answers in the poll.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I dislike it when the answer is both answers in the poll.

I agree/disagree.

 

[hux]

I dislike it when the answer is both answers in the poll.

Death to the fence sitters, I say. This is more fun

My next poll question will be.....who was the best captain?

And your options will be......

-yes
-no

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

They were idealistic anthropologists who had grown up in the peaceful cocoon of the Federation and had no idea of how dangerous the galaxy really could be,

There is accuracy in this which makes the "incompetent" option even more accurate.

They took risks bolstered by their idealism and if 7 had just ended up socially stunted and removed from other people for years it would be a shame but not a disaster. But what happened to her is so horrifying that it's hard not to be very angry at her parents.

 

[at Quark's]

Options aren't mutually exclusive, they could be both.

Though my personal opinion is that they were just irresponsible taking their young daughter with them on such a dangerous quest.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They followed the Borg through a transwarp conduit, with out knowing what a transwarp conduit was. Now that they were on the other side of the galaxy, they had to suckle up to the Borg until some other cube they were freeloading off serendipitously made it's way for the AQ.

Staying with the Borg meant maybe going home.

Abandoning the Borg meant that they were 3 life times away from home at that rinkydinks 2350s (2340s? It was probably 2nd or 3rd hand.) versions of a runabout's top speed.

This is how we know if the Hansen's were fucking assholes and not just assholes.

Did the Borg return to the AQ with these three in tow, and they still decided to maintain their experiment, rather than chart a course for Earth?

Of course if they were reading the Borg's comms, then it wasn't a surprise where each cube was going, and they could leap frog and piggy back from cube to cube like a communicable virus until they found an earthward vessel.

It's no different than figuring out how to get from point A to point b in the city if you have to catch a minimum of 5 buses to get to point B, it's just a question of which 5 buses and where and when you get on and off each bus.

 

[RoJoHen]

These people went searching for a rumour (a rumour the likes of Picard had apparently never come across?!.....more evidence that Picard lives in a bubble?)

There are people all over the world right studying things you've never heard of. It doesn't mean you live in a bubble; it just means that there's A LOT of stuff out there!

Starfleet didn't have any concrete information on the Borg. There was no reason for Picard to have ever heard of them...unless he took some Delta Quadrant Mythology course at the Academy. Even the Hansens were just following rumors and hearsay.