Senensky's Opinion

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  1. Spock's Barber

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    In his blog, Is There In Truth No Beauty director Ralph Senensky says he does not approve of the psychedelic light show that was inserted in post production for the 'appearances' of Kollos. What say you? Did the special effects add to the mystery of the Medusan ambassador, or detract from it?
     
  2. alensatemybuick1

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    To paraphrase the great Marlon Brando - I think maybe they looked like bagels up there in those days.
     
  3. Kor

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    It was more third-season weirdness.

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  4. Commishsleer

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    I loved the light show. The weird camera angles. The fish-eye lens perspective stuff.
    The special effects added to the alienness and mystery. I would have hated them to show the Medusan (LOL) as some horrible monster because we were meant to wonder was he too ugly or just too beautiful to see,.
     
  5. johnnybear

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    I think a powerful white light may have sufficed rather than a rainbow flickering lightshow to be honest!
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  6. Spock's Barber

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    Yes, I think that is what Senensky wanted when he filmed the scenes of Kollos.

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  7. UnknownSample

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    Yup. Exactly.

    Hi Servalan, I mean Sleer, don't kill me, just a slip of the tongue...
     
  8. USS Triumphant

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    To be fair, a lot of these alien peoples have means of communicating that aren't Standard (English? that's another discussion) and that in some cases even require means - physical or mental - that humans aren't naturally capable of reproducing. So a certain amount of "I'm just going to call you Steve" would be going on. "Medusan" would be a useful descriptor, as long as they aren't offended - and maybe they're even amused by it, if they've been filled in on the reference, and if the translator isn't hiding that altogether. :)

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  9. Vger23

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    I like it a lot. It was another example of TOS's ability to imagine truly "alien" aliens, as opposed to forehead of the week dudes.
     
  10. johnnybear

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    There were no forehead of the week dudes back then, Vger!
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  11. UnknownSample

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    Yeah, they wouldn't even bother with foreheads! Half the aliens looked completely like us.
     
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  12. Commishsleer

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    I don't know what you're talking about and I make no promises.:shifty:

    Yeh I suppose the Universal translator could have translated "a race of people who turn everyone else mad on sight" as closest to a fictional Earth figure of Medusa maybe...
    Maybe its like Japanese/Nipponese.
     
  13. USS Triumphant

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    Perhaps, but I was really thinking that intelligent beings (presumably humans) had made the decision for how it would be translated in the UT - so Standard speakers hear "Medusans" and Medusans perceive "the people" (since just about every language has people referring to themselves as something that amounts to "the people" ;) ).
     
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    What were the other options of depicting Kollos?
     
  15. USS Triumphant

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    They could have gone with something like the box from Pulp Fiction.
     
  16. J.T.B.

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    Agreed, I'm fine with what was done in the episode. I always thought the light show was not what the person would see when they looked at the Medusan, but a representation of the chaos that sight could bring to their mind.

    There were other things about Kolos and his container that I thought were not sufficiently explained, like why the corridors had to be cleared and why the precautions in the transporter room, but overall I like the episode and never had a problem with the light show.

    Yeah, plus the Medusan language may not even be compatible with humanoid vocal physiology, so it has to be rendered into something and some wag came up with Medusan.
     
  17. USS Triumphant

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    Yep - that's why I used the verb "perceive" for what the Medusans would do instead of "hear". But if you didn't get that, other readers might not either, so thanks for clarifying. :)
     
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    I don't remember whether I read it somewhere or thought of it myself, but I've thought that they took precautions during transport in case the container materialized a fraction of a second after the Ambassador, putting humans in the room at risk. During the walk through the corridors, clearing them of crew reduced the risk of exposure in case the container fell or otherwise malfunctioned.

    The real reason, of course, was to heighten the dramatic tension of the episode... :D
     
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    The old hand-in-the-box alien.

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  20. J.T.B.

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    Yes you did say that in the earlier post, sorry.

    Yeah... I'm not sure I buy that about the transporter, from what we've seen, everything transported materializes/dematerializes at once. Fair point about the corridors. If someone dropped an ambassador on the deck they would have enough problems without a few crewmembers going insane as well. But like I said, it wasn't really explained, I used to wonder about the transporter thing when I was a kid.