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Sector 0-0-1

Qonundrum

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Why do the Borg call it that?

How many Sectors are in the Alpha Quadrant?

Wouldn't the Borg refer to Sector 0-0-1 as their own home sector? But they understand humans enough to call out their home region, even though fear is irrelevant...

How big is one sector?

The Federation existed before Earth joined up, so was a remapping or re-kerjiggering of sectors imitated at some point? As practice for stellar cartographers, the same way people shoot tin cans off of wooden fences to improve their hand/eye coordination acuity? Why not let the computers do the calculating?

True, it's to make the audience feel all claustrophobic and terrified via extension, but forgetting production reasons what are the more important in-universe reasons? :D

The fact Picard is converted into a high ranking Borg drone and Earth is still called Sector 0-0-1 by Locutus... would the Borg really need to turn Picard into a walking demonstration of novelty electronic gizmo products found in bland shopping malls -- or more pertinently a locus o' focus for Borg intentions -- if they already have used human psychology as a relational reference point (like a security blanket?)

Even though Earth is not the epicenter of the Federation, or if it was moved there long after baking bread with Vulcans...
 
I don't think the Borg call it that. I think the Universal Translator renders it as such, to a public of listening Starfleet crew, mainly humans.
 
It was Starfleet's designation for the sector. The Borg used that term for that reason.

But if you want to get into the conspiracy angle, you could say it bolsters the argument that the Borg somehow originated in the Terran system / Sector 001 / Earth. ;)

We've had a discussion going about Earth-centric terminology if you'd like to join in.
 
Why do the Borg call it that?

How many Sectors are in the Alpha Quadrant?

Wouldn't the Borg refer to Sector 0-0-1 as their own home sector? But they understand humans enough to call out their home region, even though fear is irrelevant...

How big is one sector?

The Federation existed before Earth joined up, so was a remapping or re-kerjiggering of sectors imitated at some point? As practice for stellar cartographers, the same way people shoot tin cans off of wooden fences to improve their hand/eye coordination acuity? Why not let the computers do the calculating?
...

When did you start watching Trek.??

There's absolutely nothing in all of Trek to suggest the UFP existing before Earth joining. It would be made clear that not only was Earth one of the founding members, but that it's home to the Federation government, with the president of the Federation residing in Paris.


As for the sector designation.. . In fact, we did see the Borg refer to the origin of Humanity with a set of coordinates as less than centric years after BOTW. Of course, it's the Starfleet designation since Earth's the capital of the Federation.
 
Maybe because the Enterprise-D was built in our solar system.
It would make sense to call our solar system sector 0-0-1, that's where it started for Enterprise-D.

Yes, I know, that's kind of silly but I'll post it because I already typed that stuff. :)
 
Enterprise makes it clear the Federation was started by Earth and 3 other planets.

I chalk it up to Locutus calling it Sector 001 for ambassadorial reasons.
 
Depending on how big a sector is (which I don't think is ever defined), Sector 001 could be home to all of the Federation's founding worlds. (The Vulcan system is often assumed to be 40 Eridani, which is only 16 light-years from Earth.)

That would be supported by the fact that Worf specifies the Terran system after saying the Borg have set course for Sector 001.

But given Earth's dominant role in the Federation, it also doesn't seem that unlikely for it to be at the center of a numbering system. We still use a Prime Meridian based on the location of an observatory in London because Britain was the dominant naval power at the time it was established.

As for why the Borg said it ... same reason they refer to "humans" instead of "members of Species 5618." They needed to make themselves understood.
 
Or if you go with the books, where Destiny establishes that the Borg were an amalgamation Of Caeliar and Humans, the Borg would get the Sector from their memory.

Of course it doesn’t really make sense, as the Klingons, Romulan, and other major powers probably referred to their Capitol world’s as Sector 001.
 
They don't need to get it from anywhere in their past -- the Borg don't refer to Sector 001 until after they assimilate Picard and gain all his knowledge.
 
Locutus was just using the Enterprise crew's terminology (kinda like calling Riker "Number One")

I thought "Sector 001" sounded cool, and it's a shame it never got used again outside this two-parter.
 
Depending on how big a sector is (which I don't think is ever defined), Sector 001 could be home to all of the Federation's founding worlds. (The Vulcan system is often assumed to be 40 Eridani, which is only 16 light-years from Earth.)...

In a 4th season episode of ENT Vulcan is described as being 16 light years from Earth, and in another 4th season episode of ENT Vulcan is described as being "over" 16 light years from Earth; together they indicated that the distance from Earth to Vulcan is between 16.000000 and 16.999999 light years.

There are 4 known star systems in that distance range from Earth. Altair is one, and Altair is definitely not, repeat not, Vulcan's star, according to "Amok Time", while 40 Eridani is one of the three remaining systems at that distance.
 
Locutus was just using the Enterprise crew's terminology (kinda like calling Riker "Number One")

It's only around VOY "Scorpion" when we start hearing terminology that might be of genuine Borg origin (even if translated to English at the very least), and this because our heroes actually set foot on a Borg ship and start discussing like sensible adult individuals (with a senseless adolescent drone, but never mind that part).

Which is sort of fun, because the Borg having nothing of their own is a concept that sits well with the species!

Timo Saloniemi
 
The Borg have assimilated several Federation ships and outposts, so will know from their databases that in UFP terminology Sector 001 is home to Earth and the core of the Federation and Starfleet.

As for the size, a sector is a cube measuring 20 light-years along each axis, the standard Starfleet measurement of a sector by the mid-24th century.
 
Remember the purpose of making Picard a special drone with the job of being the face of the invasion was to 'Ease the transition' and communicate more easily. So of course, speaking to the Federation he would use the Federation numbering system.

When you also take into account Earth is supposed to be the dividing line between alpha and beta quadrants it makes sense Earth would be at the very start of the numbering system.
 
But given Earth's dominant role in the Federation, it also doesn't seem that unlikely for it to be at the center of a numbering system. We still use a Prime Meridian based on the location of an observatory in London because Britain was the dominant naval power at the time it was established.

That isn't PURELY ego. The first accurate way of determining latitude was by comparing "noon" (i.e. when the sun was at its highest visual point in the sky) with noon at a known location. The mechanism that could measure that difference reliably enough (a clock that could keep time well/accurately enough ) was invited by a Briton.

dJE
 
Then again, Harrison invented the chronometer because Britain was a dominant sea power.

Mind you, Paris and Madrid had their own highly important prime meridians back then (as did every little village for that matter, central time or longitude not being particularly relevant to anybody but the sailors). But the Royal Navy prevailed, and thus so did Greewich.

Timo Saloniemi
 
The Federation existed before Earth joined up, ...
No it didn't. Earth is the capital world of the federation so it makes sense that the federation would refer to earth's sector as 001.

Locutus also called Riker Number One, he was clearly using Picard terminology, not borg one.

Even though Earth is not the epicenter of the Federation, ...
Yes it is. The president and federation council are on earth, so are starfleet headquarters and starfleet academy.
 
IIRC, the star charts book explained that the 8 sectors surrounding the sol system were numbered according to their exploration history. 001 was explored first.
 
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