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Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Tuskin38, Sep 27, 2021.

  1. Tuskin38

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  2. Dr. San Guinary

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    "Excretus"? :guffaw:
     
  3. Timo

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    Ah, a Pandroan... Which TAS episodes have they not referenced yet?

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  4. TIM Thomason

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    Going through the list, they have referenced (in some oblique manner):
    * Yesteryear (Aurelians)
    * More Tribbles, More Troubles (grain ship)
    * The Survivor (Vendorians)
    * The Infinite Vulcan (Giant Spock, Phylosians)
    * The Slaver Weapon (Kzinti Telepath)
    * The Jihad (Nasat)
    * Bem (Pandroans)

    You could argue for Beyond the Farthest Star as the first appearance of an Edosian (Arex).

    That's seven or eight episodes referenced out of 22 (~35%). In contrast, franchise-wise, they have referenced seven of nine series (heh)* or ~78% of the franchise as a whole.

    *TOS (Mitchell, et al), TAS (see above), TNG (Crusher, et al), DS9 (shown), "VOY" (Paris, et al), Enterprise (Riker's holoprogram), STPicard (Daystrom Institute). No refs to Discovery or Short Treks, I believe.
     
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  5. Dukhat

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    A TMP Constitution class, most likely the/an Enterprise...but if it's a different ship, this would be the very first time in Star Trek history that we see another TMP Connie that isn't the Enterprise or the Enterprise-A.
     
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    Klingon Encounter, wasn't that the name of the ride at the former Star Trek experience in Vegas
     
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    Per Memory Alpha, we see a couple TMP Connies in Star Trek IV in Earth Spacedock (before they come upon the Enterprise-A), and there is a wreck of a TMP Connie seen in The Best of Both Worlds (which is a re-use of the Star Trek III Enterprise wreck). We see the bridge of the USS Yorktown in Star Trek IV, which is generally assumed to be a refit Connie (and the Enterprise-A un-renamed), but nothing substantial proves that. The remains of the USS Olympia from the 24th century was also created from the Enterprise wreck, but it's pretty hard to tell as a Connie (and Connie's are supposed to be retired), and most don't classify it as such, from what I can see.
     
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    Then let me rephrase - this would be the first time we see an intact TMP Connie, since every instance of the above does not show an entire ship, only parts, of which the argument could be made that what we saw weren't actually Connies but other classes utilizing Connie parts.
     
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    Yep. I was just adding to what you said. Neat stuff.

    We also see the Constitution refit used as a model in TNG (Picard's ready room in Season 1) and DS9 (Leyton's office) in ways that make me think they aren't representing the original Enterprise or Enterprise-A, but ships that Picard and Leyton may have served on.
     
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    Seeing a Constitution Refit should be a holiday.
     
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    To add to your list, there was also a Connie (or perhaps a Miranda) nacelle seen in the wreckage in VOY "Caretaker."
     
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    ...And "The Sound of Her Voice". I have little difficulty believing that these components have been kitbashed into even more starship designs by Starfleet than by FASA. (As opposed to all of them coming from bona fide Constitutions, that is.)

    On the other hand, I'd very much like to keep the Constitution class neat and tidy, so that there really are just twelve or thirteen of them (remaining!) in early TOS, and no tidal wave of newbuilds afterwards. Although even then, there are enough unnamed ones to allocate one for each hero skipper as a tabletop decoration. Especially if Flint helps a bit.

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    The Olympia was already mentioned, although I don't recall seeing any Connie nacelles as part of the wreckage; only the saucer from STIII AFAIK.

    Well, so much for the theory that that ship wasn't the Enterprise.
     
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