Science-fiction series which fiercely avert "dumbing down" the actual science and/or reiteration?

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  1. Ragitsu

    Ragitsu Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Good afternoon.

    As I've become increasingly accustomed to science-fiction television (of the United States variety, to be specific), I've noticed the tendency to have a character repeat what an expert just said...but in layman's terms. While I still enjoy the older series I grew up with, I wish I could find just one show that bucks convention and lets the science (be it real, fictional or some combination of the two aforementioned extremes) remain blatantly unexplained to John Q. For that matter, I would LOVE to find a series that doesn't rely on main characters conveniently suffering from chronic amnesia and having events they should remember being reiterated for the audience's sake.
     
  2. wayoung

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    Probably The Expanse
     
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  3. Richard S. Ta

    Richard S. Ta Commodore Commodore

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    You’re kidding?

    I love The Expanse but it pulls the ‘repeating in layman’s terms what the expert just said’ all the time.
     
  4. wayoung

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    Leaves a shit ton just unexplained too.

    Movie wise, Primer is likely the best bet.
     
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  5. Neopeius

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    If your request includes books, these are written to be accurate, accessible, but not dumbed-down.

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  6. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Garth of Algar Premium Member

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    Not sure if that's quite cricket. ;)
     
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  7. XCV330

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    The OA
     
  8. fireproof78

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    I always enjoyed Ben Bova too.
     
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  9. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    I doubt that is the case.
     
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  10. Guy Gardener

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    There's no need to explain the science since most of it is real and we should have a basic understanding of it already.
     
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  11. David cgc

    David cgc Admiral Premium Member

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    ^Indeed, four episodes of FAM this season had accompanying featureless doing all the explaining of various science concepts the story itself slipped in fairly quickly; spin-gravity, solar sails, drilling into an underground reservoir on Mars, and nuclear fusion.

    I'd also dispute The Expanse doing a lot of reiteration and dumbing-down, based solely on the high-speed double-cross space-battle in the season five finale that was meticulously choreographed and depicted yet went by so fast I actually needed the explainer video.
     
  12. Kor

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    This seemed apropos here...



    I supposed the reiterating in layman's terms is unavoidable to some degree, especially if the 'science' in question is a bunch of nonsensical technobabble baloney that doesn't actually mean anything in terms of real-world science.

    Kor
     
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  13. valkyrie013

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    Dr. Weir: Right. Well, um, using layman's terms... Use a retaining magnetic field to focus a narrow beam of gravitons - these, in turn, fold space-time consistent with Weyl tensor dynamics until the space-time curvature becomes infinitely large, and you produce a singularity. Now, the singularity...

    Miller: [interrupting] "Layman's terms"?

    Cooper: Well, f#=% layman's terms! Do you speak English
     
  14. 1001001

    1001001 Do You Really Wanna Taste It? Moderator

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    You’re going to have to start paying us for advertising space…
     
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