Romulan Warbird

[moonman]

the focus has been directed toward the 1701. As it should. Any thoughts regarding the possibility of seeing a ST11 Romulan Warbird? This would be very cool. If the villian is truly Romulan than this may be a possibility.

Thoughts?

 

[moonman]

Hey Gabe? You are so close w/the propjected new E, any revisions on the Warbird?

 

[Kegek]

I could be a total continuity nerd, and point out that the Romulan starship on TOS was called 'The Bird of Prey', a design name subsequently appropriated to Klingon use, and the Warbirds were introduced in TNG.

Anyway, they could still have Warbirds, a Bird of Prey, or neither; though Romulans remains likely.

 

[moonman]

I was refering to a Brid of Prey. A revised one would be great for the new picture.

 

[moonman]

Bird of Prey. Sorry for the type error.

 

[Red Ranger]

Well, if the plot uses time travel, and the Romulan villain Nero is from the 24th century, as seems to be, the use of the word "warbird" would be accurate. -- RR

 

[Kegek]

Hm. I didn't know he was from the 24th century, a good point.

But his method of time travel may still not involve any starships.

 

[Red Ranger]

Kegek said:
Hm. I didn't know he was from the 24th century, a good point.

But his method of time travel may still not involve any starships.

Your second point makes sense. As to my supposition that Nero is from the 24th century, it's just a supposition, but makes sense given the canon that our heroes never saw the Romulans till "Balance of Terror." Of course, if it's a reboot, all bets are off! -- RR

 

[moonman]

i was refering to a Bird of Prey. Some of your timeline analysis may amke sense w/my first post mistake of calling a Bird of Prey a Warbird.

Nice job w/the time travel correction take.

 

[Mister_Atoz]

Then again we don't know that Romulans didn't call any of their larger warships warbirds in the 23rd century. We don't even know for sure that the one Romulan vessel we DID see in the 23rd century was called a bird of prey, as far as I recall it was never called that on screen, the closest is someone describing Romulan ships painted like a bird of prey.

 

[Tralah]

I LOVE the 24th Century Romulan ships. I'd be so happy if they end up using one of those to go in the past, or if we end up seeing one at all.

 

[captcalhoun]

Warbird, Raptor, Bird of Prey...

i think they got the terms mis-translated somewhere...

 

[Timo]

It can well be a language issue, yes. Vulcans would have ingrained the use of bird words for describing spaceships into the English that our heroes speak; Klingons would be using the Vulcan/Romulan terminology for ship designs they learned from the Romulans (through tech exchange, capture, or mere observation in battle and mimicry).

Although I wouldn't wonder a bit if some 80% of the species out there used bird motifs to describe their flying-through-space machines. What would be more natural than that? (Terminology relating to seagoing vessels is more far-fetched, really.)

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Kegek]

captcalhoun said:
Warbird, Raptor, Bird of Prey...

i think they got the terms mis-translated somewhere...

Why, and how so?

 

[Red Ranger]

Timo said:
It can well be a language issue, yes. Vulcans would have ingrained the use of bird words for describing spaceships into the English that our heroes speak; Klingons would be using the Vulcan/Romulan terminology for ship designs they learned from the Romulans (through tech exchange, capture, or mere observation in battle and mimicry).

Although I wouldn't wonder a bit if some 80% of the species out there used bird motifs to describe their flying-through-space machines. What would be more natural than that? (Terminology relating to seagoing vessels is more far-fetched, really.)

Timo Saloniemi

That makes sense. If humans ever do get out into space, I believe we'll construct ships that look more like birds than the saucer/nacelles combo we see with Federation ships!

Then there are the species like the Ferengi that build ships that look like horseshoe crabs, or the Dominion with their decidedly insectile designs for their ships -- mainly beetle-like, as I recall.

I think the designers will creat a totally new kind of Romulan vessel, as they did for NEM.

RR

 

[Red Ranger]

Kegek said:

captcalhoun said:
Warbird, Raptor, Bird of Prey...

i think they got the terms mis-translated somewhere...

Why, and how so?

Well, they are all synonymous. I always liked the word, "raptor," sounds dramatic to me. -- RR

 

[Kegek]

Red Ranger said:
Well, they are all synonymous. I always liked the word, "raptor," sounds dramatic to me. -- RR

Warbird is hardly a synonym of bird of prey. One does not refer to a bird of prey in wildlife as a warbird. Nor does one refer to either one as a raptor, the words have distinct meanings.

And even if they were synonyms, I fail to see the problem.

 

[Red Ranger]

Kegek said:

Red Ranger said:
Well, they are all synonymous. I always liked the word, "raptor," sounds dramatic to me. -- RR

Warbird is hardly a synonym of bird of prey. One does not refer to a bird of prey in wildlife as a warbird. Nor does one refer to either one as a raptor, the words have distinct meanings.

And even if they were synonyms, I fail to see the problem.

Sorry to disagree with you, Kegek, old chap, but the words "raptor" and "bird of prey" are real synonyms. However, you are right that the phrase "warbird" has a less direct connection. A raptor is defined as a bird of prey. See this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor. -- RR

 

[Phaser666]

All this talk of Bird of Prey makes me want to go listen to my Jim Morrison post-humous solo record.

 

[trevanian]

Red Ranger said:

Kegek said:

captcalhoun said:
Warbird, Raptor, Bird of Prey...

i think they got the terms mis-translated somewhere...

Why, and how so?

Well, they are all synonymous. I always liked the word, "raptor," sounds dramatic to me. -- RR

In the A SOUND OF THUNDER universe, perhaps we'd see Mimi Rogers starring in "The Raptore."